I just came over from overgrow where i was working on a design but they suck.. here is the design:
so i have each room filled up with (3) 4X8 tables with 32 plants per table each having 1sqft. 6000 watts over each room is like 64watts/sqft. i hope to get 1/2 gram per watt out of this system. each table is mobile so i will move it 3 ft towards the opposite wall and slide under the table so i can access every plant. the lights will be aircooled all 1000watts or 600's..not sure yet. i dont want to hear legal stuff about this.. i've explained it many times and i dont need any help on legalities and i dont need people telling me i'm stupid.. its a run to waste system using coco pads.. 8 pads per table, 4 plants per coco pad.. 3 tables per room 2 rooms.. flip flop system so only 6k watts running but at 100% of time.. no cycling on engergy meter..
sorry for my spelling and if i missed anything, this is the third time writing this thread cause it kept getting deleted due to time outs and shit.. i'll add more if i realized i missed anything..
Frozen
PS :ANYONE RECOMEND A GOOD STRAIN? resilient to mold, bugs.. good for SOG.. low veg time ok.. i'm only veging for ONE WEEK..
greenthumbdanny
I think you might be a tad retarded
Frozenguy
ok.. i just asked you not to do that lol.. well i'll remember your name and ignore you i guess.. btw.. you dont have to call me retarted just cause you dont have the balls or money to do this.. so dont..
Frozenguy
Useless
Looks spot on for a nice commercial operation ther FG. I would expect more than 1/2 gram/watt with that type of set-up. I used to run 2 4x8 tables with 4K of lighting and was pulling anywhere from like 0.8-1.6 g/watt depending on the strain. You asked about a strain, I would say run Chronic from Serious seeds. It is a huge yielder, very top cola dominant and little side branching so it's perfect for SOG, good stone, good quality and great bag appeal. I would also expect no less than 1g/watt depending on your capabilities. If you're dropping that much coin to do a set-up, use CO2 injection. Also make sure your electrical is set up properly. Don't want any fires! How are you going to run your plumbing (feed and drain lines) to allow for 3 feet of mobility?
Frozenguy
The electric is going to be all up to code.. i'm paying good money to have it done right/legal. the tables will have their own irrigation system seperate from each other.. there will be a platform built onto the fram that holds the resavoir.. there will be a (not submersable) pump that pumps the water into 4 seperate soaker hoses that will be inside the coco pad bag. i'm not sure how often i should water though because the guy who was teaching me this method is not longer able to be contacted due to overgrow being down.. he mentioned something about 20minutes once a day or something i dont know i really forget how often.. he said it obviously changes throughout the growth cycle..
I will be using CO2 with monitors BUT. i hear to use co2 properly, no venting at ANY TIME can be used.. because if you use venting, it vents it out.. even if you turn off venting for 15 mintues or so, it doesn't work because for the plants to accept 1500ppm of co2, it takes about 4-6 hours to even start accepting it.. they ahve to adjust.. cause normal is what, 400ppm?? so with 1500ppm for 15 min every hour is a waste aperntly.. people notice HUGE gains with no venting/sealed room.. but with an a/c unit, completed aircooled lights.. what is the point for venting???
so how WOULD i use co2??
also, you recomend chronic from serious seeds.. thats fine and i'll take you up on that, but i have to start vegging by march 1st.. i have clones available to me though.. as many as i want.. just not sure which strain to choose..i was gonna start off growing from clones of a mother called bubba kush but was told not to by the guy advising me on how to use this grow method.. i was planning germing some rockbud seeds i have for my NEXT grow but he said rock bud is bad too.. that was the last message he gave me.. he was gonna recomend some but now the site is down!! lol.. so i will look for some chronic clones but i dont know if i can find that strain..def. get the seeds though for the next grow.. i'll have to clone them though cause i need 192 of them lol..
now, you say i can .8-1.6 grams/watt.. when i start vegging these guys, they will probably be clones about 4-5" including 1" X 1" X 1" rockwool cube.. veg one week flower until finish (hopefully 8 weeks).. is .8 gram/watt possible?? 1.6??
Useless
Gotcha on the ressy. Sounds like a great set-up. You have answered your own question about the CO2. You have aircooled hoods, and an A/C unit, so you shouldn't need to vent atmosphere for heat. So run a CO2 controller and you can set and maintain your levels, no problemo! Bubbha Kush is a great strain, but not a great yielder. Since I am guessing you want as big of a yield as possible I suggested the chronic. But, if you have a list of clones available to you, I (and I am sure many others lol) will be glad to help make suggestions. Sorry, but can't help you with the feeding schedule, never used those pads before. Yes those yields are obtainable. I wouldn't count on it if it's your first time, usually for a first timer .5 grams/watt or less is to be expected. It takes a lot of tweaking and dialing things into your specific growing environment and a superb strain to get 1.6, but yea, it is possible.
Frozenguy
Well i dont have an a/c unit but i sure could throw one into each room!! I can only get a free standing a/c unit though.. wait, i dont get it though, how can you push air into a room that isn't venting? i dont need to vent out old smelly air?? doesn't the room get.. i dunno.. old and mucky?? and with a frestanding, it will need to exhaust (through ducting) into another room or atleast outside the grow room, well how does that air get replaced? i cant have a window a/c. dont i need fresh air always coming in though??
Useless
Think about it dude. What makes "fresh" air? Plants do my friend! So If your A/C unit draws in hot air from the room, and exhausts the cold air back into your room, you will have an O2 rich environment. But the plants need CO2, so you have to add that in. You don't have to have the a/c unit drawing air from outside, make it a closed loop system. The only issue you will have is the heat the a/c unit makes, so I would mount them on the wall where the heat exchanger portion will not be in the growroom. Or, get a roof mounted unit and duct it in.
Frozenguy
I just dont get how i can duct in air when there isn't any air leaving the room.. you cant push air into a room that doesn't have an exhaust..
and with a free standing unit it draws air in from the room, cools some of it, heats up the other right?? so you are in essense trying to suck air out of a room with no intake cause you are just converting hot air to cold but you do need to exhaust some of that..
maybe with a CONSTANT 1500ppm of co2, temps can get to 80??
Useless
Dude. You're not understanding. You are NOT pushing air into the room. You are mearly circulating and cooling the existing air. The A/C unit will draw air from the room, cool it off and blow the same air back into the room. So why do you need to exhaust? The plants are producing fresh O2, you are injecting the CO2 the plants need, the A/C CIRCULATES and cools the air. Simple! You are not blowing in additional air, and you are not sucking out air, so there is no issue with postive or negative displacement. Get it? The heat is created by the mechanical workings of the unit. Temps can and should run hotter with CO2. 85* F is perfect for CO2 injection.
