Ok hey Gk members its me jo-bud -yeah most people dont know me cause i post only every once in a while because i like to be safe and i may have a lil paranoia thing too...But anyway i have just started a new grow on january 1st 2006. But this grow is a fluorescent grow. I am trying to see if fluoros are realy worth the time or effert. I have two white widow seedlings under two compact fluoros 1700 lumens each in a 1.5 square foot area. in a mixture of peatmoss perlite and vermiculite (non fertilized) i will feed alaskan fish emulsion for veg and then for flower i will add two more warm white compact fluoros at 2700 lumens each and i have not decided on a flowering nute yet. I do not think that the flo's will work the plant enough to use some of the bigg ferts so i may try something with a real low approach to see if the flo's will make the plant use the nutes.
If any one has any suggestions (besides get an HID because i have two 500 watt mh) i am open and actually would love some feedback. I will try my best to get pics up but my pc is slow and its near impossible to load pics. If anyone has had experience with flos i would love to hear about your experience..
This project was meant for the lr x ak that some particular person had but i guess i missed his contest so i am using white widow but if any one wants to donate or sell me some lowrider beans (reasonably) i can set up another box in less than 24 hours !!! so im open if interested just drop a few to say hey-jo-bud.
Alex
Good luck man. I have only ever grown under compact fluos in little boxes, although I have only been growing 2 years. Im interested in the flowering part since I only start them indoors. The second batch I have going now two mothers @ Freedom 19. It so easy and cheep, and by the time spring rolls around Ill have a fat plant to clone.
wawona
Hey Jobud I have been waiting for a flo grow. Lots of people are always wonderin' if flourescents are worth using. very interested in the results. i hope you can get some pics up and start yourself a thread in pot shots man.
good luck
wa
Steve O
when my HPS gets here, i'll do a HPS grow and we'll compare results at the end.
how's that sound?
geheim
jo well doen you will find that flos can do the job thru out the entire grow, because i have three grow ops, I have a pure flo op, which is for all plants, but since I have also a combination op flos and 150s hps, and then a pure HID set up.
The flos takelonger to completly finish, but that is some good tasting smoke, seems to be that because its more like a slower process, the intense characters of each strain are really exposed, I mean HID is for serious hard buds.
The flos produce a semi dense bud but so much more flavor and enjoyment.
i use combination cool white and warm white tlds, and have 7 18w and 2 23w for a total of about 11k lumens total and the amount of heat is not even considerable, I keep a 20-23 c temp. total area in that kas is about 2x4 but have the flos mounted vertical on the sides, and the rwo 23w flos hanging formt he top on chains.
I have clones in the flo op right now, and will try and get some pics on the grow garden. or pot shots. They look like they are realy healthy heavy green, but even though they are on a special nute with extra N.
I will start my own nutes first thing in the morning, just keeping them from shocking, its cold outside, and they were in the cold air for a few minutes, but shouljdnt be a problem, they are warm now.
will try and start the mexican sativa tonight.
I was going to do a k2 jack herer op this time around, but ended up taking bubblegum clones that were ready. and they sensi seeds mexican for my outdoor grow op, I may try and add one more this week if i can find some jack herer seeds, the seeds at the landbouwwinkel the other day looked sad, I always ask to look at my seeds befor eI buy, same as clones. I have no problem turing seeds, clones, weed, or hash away because i think it is sub standard.
Oh yea, from another thread on another site, I wanted to know what people think about feminiszed seeds, worth it or not. I have spoke to 3 serious growers, and they say thats a scam, it is not worth the extra cash for hermies.
But I have never done feminized seeds before.
I like doing it the normal way, normal good quality seeds, regardless of the strain.
The mexican sativa seeds are nice big and brown and a few with some nice dark stripes, kinda like a hawaiian woodrose seeds. That sativa shouljd be a great outdoor strain, and this is first time of doing bubblegm, but this dude said they get nice and white, I guess its crossed with asome snow white or WW somehow.
I guess its a mixed f1 hybrid. not sure really.
the flo op is steenwool drip the hid op is steenwool drip the combination op is soil, but will change it too cocotek. probably like soil but in buckets not trays.
and of course outside is going to be in the 80 gallon GOOGOOHOG bags just like the docotor ordered, I must do that huge bag grow op this summer. Oh yea I cancelled my trip to america, will send my irs in from here this year. FUCK america and its bullshit airport security and cops ready to give you a speeding ticket, not that I wont be driving, but i proably will. also caught with smoke driving in Atlanta Georgia, couljd be costly. In hawaii, im all bus, 53 circle isle baby.
besides, in Atlanta, where my tax accountant lives, is a fucked up place. Dont need reminding how bad it really is. After 6 years in europe 3 in uk, and 2.75 here, almost 6 total, you get used to living here.
IM in rotterdam , not amsterdam JP.
Still waiting to see if your gonna make it over?
I will be glad to sort you out.
ok ppl I gotta jam, happy 2006, and well done on all new years grow ops. And for you ppl in harvast now, then re up.
Im pissed off at the bush regime.
and that goddamn UNITED NATIONS.
Hairy Hemphill
As a rule of thumb, 6000 lumens of HPS will produce 3 x the amt. of bud that flo's will. It has to do with penetrating power. While all lights lose lumens as the distance from the plant increases, flo's lose lumens at a far shorter distance than HPS. HPS light penetrates further. That's why I ALWAYS recommend growing under HPS. It will "pay for itself" the very first time you grow.
PutTheKnivesOn
I have to agree with geheim, speed of growth does affect the quality of the smoke. Hydro, very fast < me not too impressed with the stone. Soil under h.p.s <slower yet better quality bud and smoke Soil under fluros <low yeild yet killer smoke.
Life is a balance.
runzwsczrs
Quote: from Hairy Hemphill on 3:32 pm on Jan. 6, 2006 As a rule of thumb, 6000 lumens of HPS will produce 3 x the amt. of bud that flo's will. It has to do with penetrating power. While all lights lose lumens as the distance from the plant increases, flo's lose lumens at a far shorter distance than HPS. HPS light penetrates further. That's why I ALWAYS recommend growing under HPS. It will "pay for itself" the very first time you grow.
Accepted that flo's lose their intensity at a shorter distance than hps, but they can be located at closer distances than hps. Also I think if CFL were used the light could be distributed by locating several light sources at optimal locations, thereby increasing yield and reducing your 3x descreptancy between hps and flo's. Additionally, the flo's would produce far less heat than hps allowing for closer growing spaces, and greatly reduced ventilation requirements. These condsiderations, couple with flo's enhanced intensity and flavor, could be a worthwhile investigation for someone whose primary interest is not high yield....
Keep us posted Jobud.
jerkypete
Quote: from PutTheKnivesOn on 6:13 pm on Jan. 6, 2006 I have to agree with geheim, speed of growth does affect the quality of the smoke. Hydro, very fast < me not too impressed with the stone. Soil under h.p.s <slower yet better quality bud and smoke Soil under fluros <low yeild yet killer smoke.
Life is a balance.
Are you saying that flowering with flos takes a longer flower period? (e.g.70 days with flos as opposed to 55-60 for HPS) I always assumed that the amount of time for flowering remained static regardless of light source (i.e. plants flowered under flos & HPS for 60 days would both be at the same stage of maturity, with the flos not producing as much as the HPS).
Interested in any comments.
geheim
a nlx haze that is from seed will take longer under flos. to completely finish, clones however seem to always finish a bit early, thats mainly what i cross with, and seem to know that if you do start getting into strains say east coast west coast, or northside, southside,
then you might find some of the truth in your thread, there pete. Welcome to JAMROCK.
