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CanadianDAN
Heres some intresting shht. I founf this to be "REALISTIC" in the was that ive thought about this before as an explanation but never went this deep. SMALL HYDROGEN BOMBS TO DISENTIGRATE ENTIRE BEAMS AND ALL EVIDENCE. WHY DOES A GRAVATATIONAL IMPLOSION (meaning going down) THROW OBJECTS UP IN A MIST? RISING HEAT FROM A BOMB??? hmmm...could be...here it is..



       More challenging problems to the demolition men, however, were the central cores of the buildings and the 47 steel pillars more robust than the ones on the outer rounds. The pillars of the central cores were made of steel even 100 + 100 mm thick, thicker than the side armours of a battle tank. Cutting those, even with explosives, is extremely difficult. One would need to surround the whole pillars, every single pillar on every floor intended to get blasted, with powerful cutting charges. These charges would have needed to be placed in such a way that the users of the skyscrapers could not notice these preparations.

       As seen in the following pictures, the cores of the towers were not distracted by thousands of powerful cutting charges but by a modern thermonuclear explosive, a small hydrogen bomb. In the picture below, a hydrogen bomb explosion, the bomb having been placed in the cellar and directed to the core, has reached the roof of the tower and the upper parts of the outer walls. On its way up the waves of fire pressure partially penetrated about 100 floors of concrete and steel. Over ten million degrees of heat caused by a hydrogen bomb sublimised all water within the concrete in a moment. Water exploded extremely quickly into 24-fold volume and totally pulverized the concrete. Even people and computers that were in the buildings disappeared turning into heat and light. That is why almost nothing of them was found in the ruins.

       Burning radiation is absorbed in steel so quickly that steel heats up immediately over its melting point 1585 °C (approx. 2890 °F) and above its boiling point around 3000 C (approx. 5430 °F). In the pictures down below, super hot groups of steel pillars and columns, torn from wall by pressure wave, are sublimized. They immediately turn into a vaporized form, binding heat as quickly as possible. Bursts upwards, even visible in the picture below, are not possible for a gravitational collapse or for cutting charges which are used horizontally.



Storax Sedan 104 Kt shallow underground

       In the upper picture the explosion is in theory 100 times stronger than in the picture below, but in practice the difference is only four times due to the capability of direction of the small hydrogen bomb.







Also world trade center 7...

Does a building with a few small fires go down this easily???



I CANT BELIVE MOST OF ANYTHING IM TOLD ANYMORE, I dont know maybe im brainwashed to believe this shht.

TOO MANY ENDS MEET UP. IT SEEMS OBVIOUS TO ME.



(Edited by CanadianDAN at 2:19 am on Jan. 29, 2006)
CanadianDAN
In the demolition industry, “pull” is the common term they
use for demolishing buildings with explosives.

Silverstein is talking about how a decision was made between him and
the New York Fire Department to 'Pull' the building. And there is no
doubt the meanings of his words, captured in context. He is admitting
on public TV that a decision was made between him and the NYFD to use
a controlled demolition to fell WTC 7 on 911. And all of this AFTER
the official FEMA report, costing millions said otherwise, and they
had all the experts.

In order to appreciate the severity of this evidence, you must first
understand that demolishing a building is not something you can do in

a few minutes by tossing explosives into a basement. It actually takes
days of planning. First you have to pinpoint all the load-bearing structures,
then you have to wire everything and set the cutting charges so they
all go off in a pre-destined order. Which means that this demolition
was planned long before 9-11!

Here is the footage of WTC 7 getting "pulled". Click on the
image to view a close-up video of the explosive charges shooting up
the building.

The official story to this day is that WTC 7 fell because of fire.,
just like Towers 1 & 2.

But we all know that “official” does not always mean “true”!

So now you have to ask yourself...

Why would this man destroy his own buildings?

Six months before the attacks on the World Trade Center, the World
Trade Center was "privatized" by being leased to a private
sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for
$3.2 billion 6 weeks before 911. But the World Trade Towers were not
the real estate prize the Silverstein Group might have been led to believe.
The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements,
most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials
declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built.
Other New York developers had been driven into bankruptcy by the costly
mandated renovations, and $200 million represented an entire year's
worth of revenues from the World Trade Towers.

The attacks on 9/11 changed the picture. Instead of renovation, Silverstein
is rebuilding, funded by the insurance coverage on the property which
'fortuitously' covered acts of terrorism. Even better, Silverstein filed
TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy, based on
the two, in Silverstein's view, seperate attacks. The total potential
payout is $7.1 billion, more than enough to build a fabulous new complex
and leave a hefty profit for the Silverstein Group, including Larry
Silverstein himself.

As reported in The Washington Post, the insurance company, Swiss Re,

has gone to court to argue that the 9/11 disaster was only one attack,
not two and that therefore the insurance payout should be limited to
$3.55 billion, still enough to rebuild the complex.

The destruction of the World Trade Towers may make Silverstein one
of the wealthiest men alive.

COMMON SENSE

The towers fell in roughly 10 seconds, that is, that they fell at about
the same rate that an object falls through air.

The fact that the towers fell this quickly (essentially at the rate
of free-fall) is conclusive evidence that they were deliberately demolished.

Believing that there is nothing wrong with the towers collapsing so
quickly, is roughly analogous to believing that people pass through
closed doors as quickly as they pass through open doors.

The fact that they fell at such a rate means that they encountered
essentially no resistance from the supposedly undamaged parts of the
structure. That is, no resistance was encountered from any of the immensely
strong parts of the structure that had held the building up for the
last 30 years. This just doesn't happen, unless, of course, the lower
part of the building has lost its structural integrity (And this is
usually due to the detonation of a multitude of small explosive charges
as seen in controlled demolitions).

You have seen the evidence. The footage, the eyewitness reports, the
seismographs, the infrared shots, the molten steel. They all point to
one thing…

The World Trade Center was not destroyed by terrorists. It was a controlled
demolition, an inside job
neobud
WOW I went to that new website where the film and pictures have been clarified. Dude there is NO WAY any logical free thinking rational person could ever come away from these pictures and films with anything less than absolute certainty that the US did this.
halfbreed420
Come on guys. This sounds all well and good but do you know how fucking deep the conspiracy would have to run? Many of the consipiracy theories sound not only possible but down right probable.
A few sites...
http://www.digitalstylecreations.com/Download/
Chose the WMV. This is a good video rebuttal. Pretty much shows In Plane Site is BS.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=3&c=y
Popular Mechanics breaks it down.


When I watched the video, I was like, "Holy Shit". Then I looked into it. You always have to get both sides. When I happened upon all the information debunking the conspiracy I was like, "Oh, I see."

Is there something about 9/11 we don't know. Hell to the yeah. I'm sure the Saudi's have a whole lot more to do with it than we know. I'm sure there were several people on American soil other than the highjackers that knew what would happen. We'll never know everything but In Plane Site is just flat wrong IMO.


(Edited by halfbreed420 at 8:46 am on Jan. 29, 2006)
halfbreed420

Quote: from neobud on 7:50 am on Jan. 29, 2006
WOW I went to that new website where the film and pictures have been clarified. Dude there is NO WAY any logical free thinking rational person could ever come away from these pictures and films with anything less than absolute certainty that the US did this.



You're right! Mostly because the pictures are misrepresented or incorrectly translated if not completely fraudulant as possible some of the audio in the film In Plane Site.
neobud
Their fil and pictures are still running on another companies server. Names like Amazon, La TImes etc. SO that does not make sense.

If you quesstion how deep a "conspieracy" can go then read the Peral Harbor thread. FDR should be posthumously tried and found guilty of treason.

There were 2600 men killed that day for no reason.

(Edited by neobud at 8:49 am on Jan. 29, 2006)
halfbreed420
I know there's a lot of theories on Pearl Harbor also. I just want to put out both sides. I know 3 people that were at the WTC that day. 2 died and 1 witnessed the plane strikes from less than a block away. The witness gets kinda pissed at the conspiracy theories considering he was there and saw the planes with his own eyes.

Another decent site.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/rumors.asp
neobud
OMG man! LMAO!!!! That Popular Mechanics shit is fucking garbage. They just took statements from Governmnet employees and tried to pass it off as fact. TOTAL BULLSHIT!

In fact the Popular Mechanics garbage has been debunked already and refuted.

You say the photos are doctored on the "conspiracy" videos that were shot BY LIVE CAMERAS FROM ALL ANGLES and their film evidence is still running on OTHER COMPANIES SERVERS.

Popular mechanics already lost credibility with me when they said Diesel would burn at 1000-1500 Degrees.

JP-8 Jet fuel IS DIESEL it burns WAY hotter than diesle that you run a generator with. IN A PERFECT 100% OXYGEN ENVIRONMENT it can burn at a maximum or 1000 degrees.

THEN first they say the jet fuel burned and burned and spilled down shafts and stairwells etc. NOW they say well the jet fuel only burned for about 10-15 minutes. OK that measn that Printers, paper and computers melted a steel structure 100mmx100mm thick in less than 2 hours in one case and less than an hour in the other. Can you say BULLSHIT!!!

OK on to the next show of evidence. The jet fuselage, IF IN FACT this fire burned so fucking hot that it melted 100x100 mm structurally hardened andf tempered steel designed to withstand over 2000 degrees of CONTINUOUS HEAT for beyond 10 hours. THE HOW IN THE FUCK did this AIRCRAFT ALUMINUM fuselage not disintegrate and totally melt?

People use some powers of observation and make this at least a challenge here. USE YOUR HEADS people! DAMN!
neobud
My partner bravely/stupidly tested the elevator on the 52nd floor. He rode it down to the sky lobby on 44. The doors opened, it was fine. He rode it back up and got Harry and Victor.


Elevators worked in the 2nd Trade Center????? WOW I thought they would have melted due to the fires or be jammed because of buckling. HMMM The elevator that defies physics. Must have been a SUPER ELEVATOR!!!
halfbreed420
I guess the bottom line is the investigation into the matter should have been open and well, actually done.

No matter what we are only guessing. The official story stinks, but there are 3 missing planes with many missing loved ones. I haven't heard the explanation of where those 3 planes are or where those passengers are. If they didn't crash into the WTC where the hell are they? On the same day the government used cargo planes to knock down the towers did there just happen to be a hijacked flight that went down in Pennsylvania?

And watch the video. If the Popular Mechanics article you're not into, look at the video.

I'm not saying the pictures are fake I'm just saying they are being misinterpreted. For instance, if you watch the video, conspiracy theorists use a piece of film to say that the smoke was too wide, as the first picture up top does. That's actually smoke coming from the tower that is behind the tower in the picture.

I just think Mr. Al Qaeda did it. To say that GWB set it up and downloaded it is just absolutely silly to me.

Just my opinion. I could be wrong as I have many times before.

At least we can keep it friendly ;)
 
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