How many breeders we got in here?

wwboy


resin rubber....1500 plants in jist one grow...over 10 yrs ive grown out thousands!!!!!!!!!! ive been fortunate and am able to grow in a very very very large space..i do indoor outdoor and greenhouse yr round.....so......breeding has become the next step...there is a person ive been growing with who i cant mention ..however been blessed to work with who may be able to take my art to the cannabis cup within two yrs....its my purple .....we have grown it out over the yrs and crossed her with this/that...and all i can say is that i have the original white widow..black widow..and ive combined to certain degrees a widow cross thats not jist purple on the leaves nor outside bud leaves but marijuana thats a( solid) purple throughout the entire bud with the smell of just straight( HASH)..just hash!!!!!!!!!!!great hash!!!!!! dont know what we will call it but when it hits i promis you it will rock the CUP and be the new flav in all shops.....its stable/true breeding and the (GOD) bud of this next yrs cup!!!!....so do i breed...yeah....but keep in mind that this isnt easy..nor for persons who dont have access to a large grow area...any questions maybe jist private message me..wwboy.

 

If it's more than one can take in, how could he have taken it in himself? Is he superhuman?


Really dude, when you're gushing with praise (kissing ass), isn't it better to keep the hyperbole in check a bit?

 

Come on man, easy. No one needs to kiss Useless' ass, anyone who has been on this forum a while know that Useless and Skunky are the go to guys for MJ related info. No ass kissing here, just the facts. Useless has been in the game a long time and is a highly intelligent dude... Skunky...well he must be superhuman....lol So young and yet so much knowledge in that head of his.


Have you seen teamsters grow?!? He hasnt been on this forum that long and started out asking basic questions.... Look where he is now. Useless and skunky both had a hand in getting him there. He took the info, applied it and is now growing trees.


Now dont get me wrong, there are alot of great growers here on GK, but these two people stand out above the crowd. No ass kissing from me, only great respect that is well deserved.


I dont know any other individuals with more knowledge on the cultivation/genetic aspects of MJ.


It might not make them superhuman but it definately makes them highly respected on the MJ boards and 'above all else' IMO..

 

wwboy


yes shanti has the originial.....mine was gifted to me and was a clone from his...6 mos after i got the white widow clone i was blessed to have one of the dumpster males givin to me by a person who kinda (stole) it from the garbage and i nursed him back and later crossed with the widow again to end up with what isnt really the same exact mix shanti came up with but none the less its a fantastic mix and ...well...that dumpster male was like gold and prolly ol shanti would be pretty upset to know i ended up with a stolen male.....perhaps i was wrong but at the time i didnt really even know what the strain was .. only that these people were on top of the game and a scrap of genetics from anything they/he was working on i had to have......im kinda greedy when it comes to hording genetics.....i cant let ANYTHING go....ive got more seed stock than i can keep track of/some so old they may not even germ anymore???anyway.....yes you are correct...shanti has the real original...mine is a knock off..however the experiments have produced a real one of a kind hybrid that another guy ive been working with swears he can have entered in the cup closer to two yrs from now..didnt realize how much (stuff) is required prior to entry.....i used to think it was as easy as sayen here ya go judge it......well i found out im unable to simply do that and it has to be entered in my case by a coffee shop and they require (ALL) home work done and have to even grow the plants out themselves long prior to any submission to any events.....things look very promissing though and all is on shedule as for my time lines.....prolly wont ever try to do it again no matter how the smoke places....i bit off more than i could chew on this i think.

 

WWBoy - That's a pretty fantastic story. Can you provide some details?


Where (what country, city) ?


When?


Got pics of the male?


How about pics of your cross your are planning to enter the cup with too? Wouldn't mind seeing that.

 

wwboy


well its 1993 and im 26yrs old...befreinded a guy who knew another who worked at a seed bankcalled g.h.s.c. and this guy says through the mail that the guy he knows can hook us up with some clones and that he can mail em no prob to me.....so i end up with a 6 pack of clones labled (S.I.X B.S.)...no name.....few wks later the guy says the name will come out to the world as white widow later in the yr...didnt much pay attention or care really till i found out it would be a cannabis cup entry in 94 ...i already grew out 2 of the only clones that survived the mail and was maybe 4 wks till harvest but didnt think they were anything special cause none were turning (WHITE) and i thought it was just a catchy name is all..didnt know about the end product being that frosted with trics!!!!!anyway just as im into drying what is pretty good looking bud my buddy Ing wrote in a letter he has a plant thats the male to these hybrid clones i just grew/dumpster trash and am i interested in it if he can get it healthy enough to mail...i said yeah but really had not much interest at all...only 6 mos down the road did i screw around with trying to flower them to gather..went bad and had tiny buds with tiny /few seeds that were barley mature but did keep em...yrs later..maybe in 2005 i grew out those 10 seeds and crossed back to the same dumpster male id been screwing around with for so long and there started to hone the widow to what is such a bootleg plant from a source who was kinda a shaddy guy....anyway in the end i got some awsome genetics to play with...maybe not REAL WIDOW but great to play with just the same.

 

Well, I don't know how to say this without coming across like a dick, so I will just say it, but understand I am not trying to be an ass here.


I spoke with Shanti the other day, he told me specifically he has never used (SI x BS) as a labeling system. So either you are full of it, or more than likely, judging from your posts and the mention of Ingemar, you have been duped. You seem sincere about the work you are attempting/doing, and since Ingemar is a known shyster in the cannabis community, I am leaning towards you being duped. Perhaps Ingemar grew some of the first seed and sent you clones of that, making the line you are working with a WW F1. Anything is possible. But if Shanti tells me he didn't use that labeling system ever, then I gotta believe him, as he is a straight shooter and as honest as they come in the seedy seed business.


If you read up on the 1998 Aloha WW it parallels your story. Almost identical as a matter of fact.


Either way, I agree with Shanti when he said of your story "if you put in the work, you will be rewarded".


So Cheers and good growing to you.

 

wwboy


my guess is ive been shit on.......i only know what limited info i was given...hopefully ol ingmar did the lables himself and i did in fact have the cast off??????? hell its a super awsome plant and id hate to think that now i just dont know anything at all bout its past...but if you spoke with shanti and he said out of his own mouth then ..well he has no reason to lie .........so i guess im dissapointed...and no you dont sound like a dick and i appreceiate the words.wwboy.

 

Cool, glad I didnt come off like an ass. I hate the "you don't have that cut, thats not the real clone" threads. I was just thinking about how much your story parallels the Aloha WW cut, "Sweet Thang". So I asked Shanti and you read the answer I got.


Perhaps Ing did label them himself. That is certainly a possibility. Ingemar is a shady dude from what I have read. There as an article in a mag a long time back called "The Father of White Widow" I believe, and it was Ingemar claiming he bred the WW, it was his parental stock, etc etc etc. Perhaps you have clones of what he was working with? (Which is most likely WW F1 seed from Shanti). Or Perhaps Ingemar did snake some of Shanti's discards and tried to make a duplicate line? Only Ingemar could tell you the truth, but I wouldn't expect any form of truth from a guy who claims he bred WW when everyone knows it was Shanti's work. But I digress...


I wouldn't be disappointed at all. Regardless of the origins, if it's a bomb plant, then it's a bomb plant. You should feel lucky to possess it and proud that you are working the line. The proof is in the plant, and if you are satisfied and happy with it, then that is what matters.

 

wwboy


yeah dont even know where ing is these days...funny cause i found out how shady he was later when i got ripped off by him...never read where he said HE breed the ww but it really dont shock me hed say that..really bumed out to hear i may not have the plant i thought i did for so long....oh well still such a fantastic plant i could never let go of...reminds me now of some others i received through the mail that may not be what was claimed as well????

 

I'm trying to become a breeder myself. I've crossed and grown Ak-48(f) x Rx(m). Rx is Romulan x Fuckin Incredible. It turned out very much like I imagined, I had very minimal variation as well. It was really neat.


Right now I have 3 random Mandala plants growing, 9 white rhino, a couple bubblicious, and a couple Ice. I'll end up crossing some of those, could end up with 3 crosses. I only have the White Rhino and one bubblicious marked, so I it could be interesting. For now, I'm just waiting to discover the males so I can move them outside, then cut them down when the first seed sac opens to harvest the pollen. I'll just name the males backwards from Z, and record in my notebook the most detailed description I can of what it was like, then selectively pollinate the buds of the females I want. Could end up super interesting. I wouldn't mind definately crossing the Bub with white rhino.

 

Unless you have a few acres and can grow 'willy-nilley', you are NOT a bredder, IMO.


Making seeds in a room does NOT make you a breeder.





. Can't stop laughing.

 

I see what astro is sayin. I guess I'm just a cross breading enthusiast in the making.

 

From Wiki:


A breeder is a person who practices the vocation of mating carefully selected specimens of the same breed to reproduce specific, consistently replicable qualities and characteristics.


This might be as a farmer, agriculturalist, or hobbyist, and can be practiced on a large or small scale, for food, fun, or profit.


Technically, anyone who makes seeds intentionally is a breeder, though most aren't on the same scale as commercial breeders. Those who do it at home are called hobby breeders.

 

Or pollen chuckers.

 

I hear you, but most, if not all, of us dont have the capacity to be REAL breeders. I'm about to cross Extrema and Chronic, but I would never call myself a breeder. I have too much respect for the dudes who are actually putting out some quality seeds.


No offense was intended to Wiz or anybody else.


I guess I would still enjoy grabbing gfem, master breeder/scammer by the throat.