What's the truth about veg time and end product quality?

I kept a MJ magazine that had an article about someones grow. One of the side note boxes said something along the lines of, not everyone is able to let their plants fully mature before flowering. By letting a plant vegetate 55 days, it greatly impacts quanity, resistance, and QUALITY of your final product. Just curious how true that is.

I was thinking of vegging 6 weeks. So I had to ask.

 

Ive read it myself. I actually read it in a review of AK48 stating a longer veg time produces more potent smoke. Dunno. My first grow of AK48 I vegged for 4 weeks and 6 weeks. The 6 week vegged plant was twice as frost, but the smoke was pretty much the same on all of the plants. But like I said there was alot more frost on the one that vegged longer.


For all I know it was a different pheno, but they did all look and grow the same.


Curious to see what others have to say myself. Maturity I thought was when the plant had alternating nodes, period. And potency was directly related to genetics. But maybe a longer veg time does allow the plant to be that much more developed affecting all aspects of flowering (vigor/yield/potency)?


Nice thread WiZaRD :thumbs-up:

 

I gotta pop in on this one - great question. I lean in the direction of a long veg. Root mass is vital to your plant's health. Big strong root system = big strong plant. If you're vegging 6 weeks, you'll definitely see an increase in your final crop weight, but push it a couple weeks past that (depending on strain and height limitations), you really start to increase your yields.


I should run this test through with my next cycle - would be interesting to see side by side comparisons. I believe in big plants - just my style...


Interesting...


~Kojak

 

I have always waited for a plant to mature before I flower it.


In my experience, a plant will usually start alternating nodes somewhere between 6 to 8 weeks, from seed.


That would be close to the 55 day timeline the article stated.


I do know, mature clones that veg for 3 weeks are no more potent than clones vegged for 6 weeks, 15 weeks or even longer.


I rarely plant seeds and always use clones as my stock for future grows. Sometimes I don't have room for all the vegging plants to flower, so I let some veg alot longer than others, and YES, the yield and quantity of product increases, but I don't notice ANY difference in potency.


I'd say the article was referring to allowing a plant to "mature" before flowering, rather than allowing a plant/clone to veg as long as possible to increase the potency.


I hope I was of some help

 

Gotta agree with RkyMtnWayHigh69's point - I've noticed no difference in potency when they are vegged longer. Just like planting tomatoes, You can start them early and you'll harvest more, but they taste the same. But now you have me curious.


~Kojak

 

Well I am currently growing 12/12 from seed so no real veg time (of course the plants do not really start flowering from day 1, it takes them a little while) and my quality is just as good as it's ever been. I'd like to take a closeup pics to show you but my camera is a POS.


But here is 12/12 from seed. A good 50/50 hybrid. Santa Maria (hybrid) x Belladonna (another hybrid)


I believe more veg time is better for pure indicas especially but with my hybrids 12/12 from seed works fine and potency seems right on cue...

 

me love you long time


Time I dunno but I top a few times to get 8 or 10 tops the same level to keep even hormones and get them about 4ft then swich to flower depening on feno I'll get 8 to 12 oz per plant but potentcy is flower time:thumbs-up:

 

This is probably only for seed grow as being hinted at.


I'm on like like nth generation of clones from the mothers, i.e., all my plants are over a year old and I've noticed no change in them over time, but maybe in the beginning, but I don't put plants into flower right away. I just cloning clones and flowering the mothers.


I usually don't flower until it throw alt nodes and I got 2-3 rooted clones from it so by then, they are always over 2 months before they enter flower the 1st time.

 

I agree with this only affecting a seeds grow. I'd think since clones are already a mature plant, the buds would grow the same no matter what veg time, but if a non-mature seedling was forced to bud, it may suffer in quality or quantity.

 

Yes I did mean SPECIFICALLY from seed. I myself only like working with clones, unless I'm working on crossing strains, and have to grow from seed. I had to shut my whole op down, and I'm now starting fresh.


I've seen alternating nodes in 4.5-5 weeks. I think what I'm going to do is this, veg 2 weeks after alternating nodes appear. I'm growing Ice, Bubblicious, Hashberry, White Rhino. I will be supercropping and doing a few other things to ensure bushy plants. Space is no issue this time around, I have 5'x8' for my 1000w HPS (when flowering comes around). I'm not going to fill it up of course, but as of today knowing I have that kinda space I'm not going to use the home depot buckets, UNLESS they are significantly taller than these fat daddy nursery pots I can get for free. They are definately wider than the home depot buckets, but I think about 2" shorter.

 

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There is also a (potential; intent is everything) huge advantage to 12/12 from seed (modified) and that is that the plant enters it's hemp-like 'indestructible mode' shortly after flowering begins, which allows supercropping and/or other 'extreme' training. A plant can then be returned to a longer light cycle, if desired, after the "mutilation" is complete, or be allowed to continue, for a fast turnaround.


Affect yield?


Yes, absolutely. LOL, again, intent is everything!


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Affect potency?


Yes, I think so, but not to a huge degree.


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Mainly tho', FAST TURN_AROUND!


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90 some days, from seed ~WW crosses~

 

Im actually growing AK48 right now and she showed alternating nodes around 3 weeks from seed.


I believe from what i have read and understood, is that it can effect potency if flowered before the alternating nodes are showing(majority), but after the nodes are showing it really only effects yield amounts. obviously the bigger the plant is, the more bud the plant will carry.


so i would say yes and no


asssit:

 

clones


take clones then quick flower them while they root so you know if male,female or both before you spend all the time to find out they are gonna seed out a bunch of beans

 

I have found that the bigger the the plant going in to the flower chamber


of course you get a larger yeild but the taste and aroma were also more intense :droooling:

 

longer veg


a longer is always going to let the plant mature and that will make a higher yield and im not shure about quality but it is always better to veg longer cause a biger plant will grow faster and that in turn makes u way happier just takes a lil longer. i diddnt read tha other posts so if someone covered it then i was jus tryin to help hope i could