Chaz's Continuous grow

Time makes them flower not the light they Recieve . Run em all fuck it !

 

Time is the main factor with flower production, but the more light it receives... the better potential it has (lumens). If you could run them all without blocking the HPS I'd recommend it.


In flowering, red spectrum is supreme. In vegging, Blue spec shines. I'd do mH for veg, and hps for flower. You can get away with the right spectrum cfls for veg, though. I know I do...

 

Okay, since I now know that I fucked up with the RDWC because of running diff strains. :BangHead::BangHead::BangHead: So Now I'm at the point where I let the control bucket just recirculate the far back to buckets (Currently 8.5 gallons in both buckets and the control bucket together) (Both strains heavy sativa dom), which seem to like to be fed the same amounts. I backed way off the nutes, and got all my levels at a very acceptable level. But now I have the two front buckets that are totally turned off, and just run like a single site DWC. (To feed, check levels, or to do anything, I have to pick the net pot out of the bucket, hold it in place while I do what I need to do. (Huge pain in the ass) I'm just trying to think down the line when these things are 5 ft +. There will be no way I can pick the net pot up and drop nutes or w/e in there. So what I was thinking of doing was making those two buckets their own individual control buckets, so I don't have to pick shit up and move anything around. I was thinking 1 cat litter box (Square), I was gonna rig the bucket up and place something down the middle, splitting the bucket into to separate sections, maybe cut a piece of plastic and silicon the plastic in the middle, creating two individual buckets in one! xD I would have a pump and air stone on each side. Since these net pots I use are 10" I can only fill my buckets up to about 2 - 2.5 gallons, and the water level in my current control bucket is about 1/3 filled with nutrient solution. I like to leave about and 1" to 1.5" of the roots out of the water in the buckets. At least that's what I was thinking about doing. I'm in the planning phase now. I'll post up a little diagram to show what I mean.


Edit: I'm no artist so don't make fun of my paint drawing (next post)! :kidding:

 

dude!! that shit will fuck up your skin, so make sure to wear some disposable latex gloves when handling it

 

I maybe use 5 ml of PH ^ Max when I mix nutrients . I never use down period. And the bottles last me FOREVER

 

Bud.... I know EXACTLY what you mean and thats why Ive been on yer ass a little bit about listening to some of us and myself.......I know its a learning process but if somebody has it figured out then why fuck with it??


Ive done almost everything your doing to some extent and some to exact points.......Ive blown hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars, just tryin to drop some help to you if you wanna listen


First question......why are u growing? purposes? reasons?


2,you want hands on or hands off? automatic buddage or earned buddage?


3, i ran outa brain cells, brb

 

I hear that's going around.


Chaz, I've taken a back seat and stopped posting answers to your questions. I figured it didn't matter since your going to do what you want and not listen to my advice, no matter what is said. It seems that people can show you how to make a huge haul and some how you already know better and don't need any advice although your always asking. And not following what some great growers are telling you. Well by great, I meant the other people giving you advice. I'm just a regular grower, but sometimes I do have good advice. Sometimes.

 

Haha. It's so funny you say that. I had a cut on my knuckle and got that shit on it and holy fuck did it burn, it straight up gave me a chemical burn. That's def pure concentrate! :roffl: :roffl:

I've been using both since I'm getting use to it. I got it down now. I barley ever have to adjust anymore. I don't even come close to using 5ml, I use drops! :thumbs-up:

First question......why are u growing? purposes? reasons?





- To blaze bomb ass chronic for free and to make some cash on the side. Nothing big time, but I'd like a perpetual grow, say maybe 5-6 pounds a year, maybe a bit more.


You want hands on or hands off? automatic buddage or earned buddage?


-I wanted hands off but since I didn't understand that I needed to grow all the same strain, now I'm stuck with two plants that take care of themselves (RDWC) and two plants that I have to manually feed/flush/drain (Normal DWC). I listen to most advice I get here, it's just that most times I don't ask the correct questions and use my own input instead which makes it look as though I don't take advice. I love your guys advice and have learned so much from it. So, now I need to figure out a way to make this all automatic at the stage I'm at right now.


I ran outa brain cells, brb


- I can feel that brotha! :roffl:


asssit:

- I've noticed that you stopped rep to my threads. I love the advice that you give me, but like I said before a lot of the times I don't think shit all the way through before I just go out and buy it or add it, which is something that I need to work on. As far as listening, I do listen, but at times don't ask the correct questions, and I'm stuck to improvise. I've slowed everything down and I am now and have been for a while taking all advice. But now I'm stuck and need some help. I don't listen occasionally, and I'm working on that. Thanks for the post. :good job:

 

Was bored so I made a video. Loving this new Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Full 1080P vids and pics. First time today filling the actual res up with my R.O. water. Cheesy girl got a bit of root rot somehow, I caught it right at the beginning, cut the nasty shit off, used some H202 and DM Zone, and everything new is coming out nice and white.

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FML: Didn't know you had to take the video with the phone fat wise or it would look half cut off. =/ sry guys.

 

you sprayed the roots with peroxide? Jeez man... I have never heard of that. I'm kinda shocked. Who suggested that?


I think your next purchase should probably be a chiller. That or figure out some other way to cut the water temp fluctuations. That's probably a good part of why your root zone is crappin out. Temperature in the root zone is kinda a big deal for DWC. Affects just about everything. There are ways to drop temps without buying a chiller, and I'm sure any of the DWC gurus on here can tell you at least 5 different ways if you ask nicely. Won't be as effective as a chiller, but you're not running the size of a setup that usually requires one. I just say buy a chiller because it's a long term fix and you seem more inclined to spend money on problems than jerry rig stuff. But srsly... don't do ice cubes. Just trust me.


One other thing... if you wanted automatic harvests of good quality bud where you don't really have to learn much or do much, you're running the wrong system. DWC has a very steep learning curve and requires a lot of maintenance if you don't wanna just piss money into it. Might wanna consider cannibalizing the setup after this grow for a drip system and soil or rockwool and come back to DWC after a few successful runs. At the very least, switching to a simpler system will cut out a lot of the problems you're having.


PS: quick clarification. If knowledgeable people volunteer information and you take your own advice, I think that's usually called "ignoring them." Just sayin.

 

Root rot comes from the water temps being too HIGH, id bet your running about 71-76F, depends on the time of day.....which makes the bacteria accelerate rapidly and eating the thinner, weaker roots first.


U need to get the control tub outa the tent and cover up all them lines so they reflect the light instead of absorbing it, same with the buckets/tubs...


Rot and slime will destroy your system man, good luck on that one, been there and now i run tables cuz of it

 

VERY well said

 

That's for sure. I personally think that dwc sucks because you have to lift the damn plant out of the bucket anytime you want to feed them. That's easy when the plants are small, just wait till they get big, that is a pita. I'll never run it again because of that. I personally prefer hempy, it's pretty much plug and play if it's your first time running hydro.

 

After growing it for a long time, I finally realized that RDWC is for professionals that LIVE at their grow 24/7...........there are way to many vaiables to deal with when you have a pump running 24/7 making heat, roots sitting in water for 4 months, massive growth explosions to prepare for, slimes, the PH is harder to control with an aerating system, theres a ton of places for massive bacteria to culture and collect (lots of 90s n elbows) ......................I dunno, its just a major PITA

 

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Yeah totally speaking from experience here. I learned on DWC and good god was that a pain. On average I spent about 30 hours a week in the grow room and I didn't get a good harvest until about a year in - and even now after a couple years of experience with various DWC/RDWC setups, I'm only about 80% confident in my abilities. By comparison, with good genetics I can guarantee .75 gpw of chronic using almost anything else (besides NFT or aero, of course. Those mostly have the same problems as DWC.)


I ended up scrapping the whole venture for the same reason as CCrete. Small mistakes make big reductions in yield and I just didn't have the time or attention needed to make sure I never made a small mistake. If you want to do any DWC system right you need to be an expert (with a lot of time on your hands or some amazing technical know-how and a very large budget). And even once you're moderately good at growing, you probably shouldn't make the transition to any active hydro system until after you can grow perfectly in soil or a passive hydro system. Small mistakes can be noticed and caught in soil before they spoil the crop, but small mistakes in DWC trash the crop. Plus, there are a lot more mistakes you can make running active hydro than soil or some wick system.


Case in point: if you'd had some root zone problem in a soil run, everyone would have told you NOT to do a peroxide drench to fix it. That goes for pests, fungi, whatever. Peroxide's toxic stuff - I used 1 cap full for an entire 20 gallon reservoir. If you'd had a chance to figure that out in soil (test it out on one plant of 8 instead of doing it to your whole crop at once in a RDWC system), you would have been able to avoid that mistake in hydro where the impact will be much greater. There are dozens upon dozens of similar mistakes you can and probably will make at some point if you insist on learning with DWC.


Long story short, might want to consider this run a learning experience rather than a harvest. Same thing for the next run, and the next, and the next (if you want to keep doing DWC anyway).


edit: One more thing came to mind several hours after I made this post. I've only known one person in real life who could grow even moderately well using anything similar to a DWC system. He was a full time professional grower with about 15 years experience, supplied a dispensary, and probably spent about $1000 per 6-8 plants to get a setup he was comfortable using (not including lights/nutes/grow boxes). That's just a baseline for comparison, and I'd say it's probably a pretty average standard for what is required to consistently get the results from DWC that people talk about. And even he had problems with some degree of rot on a fairly regular basis.

 

- thank you for your advice. I did my first grow in DWC, had root issues, lowered the temp, got 4 oz's off two plants. Second grow learned a bit more, still did DWC. Grew 5 Auto Flower plants, yielded 1 1/4 pound off of 5 auto's in a 4x4 tent. So I'm not as noob as you all may believe. Only two of my plants are currently running in a RDWC system and the only problem I am having now is heat. Dropping ice bottles a few times a day keeps everything under control. Average res temp is 71-72F. I know that is high, and I plan on researching alternative methods to cooling, because I don't have $400 for a 1/10 HP chiller ATM. My last grow payed for all my supplied, free smoke for months, and some extra cash. I plan to do so this time as well. These plants will grow good, I'm determined and have the time now to do it, as I am now free - lancing for work. (IT industry).


- Only root issues are in the auto flower which is in it's own separate white 2 gallon bucket. I am going to take CC's advice and cover everything with a reflective material! Thanks!

 

Week #4 update from seed.


I'll post week # 4 update tomorrow. It's two days late, should have been on the 25th, been super busy. Got 40 gallons of R.O. water now. xD

 

the small pot is why u have heat issues..........u need to run as close to 3.5 or up in dwc buckets to kep the temps down, the larger the mass of water the harder it is for the heat to build up to the point where there is a bacteria explosion


2 gal is sure to be hot at all times