So after 4.5 days of vac purging and a few days of sitting out this is a look at what that HashBomb run ended up lookin like. A little dab will do ya
Yeah could be way worse. That was taken off a plant that was toasted, it wasnt flushed or mature. I've made enough wax now to be confident it wasn't anything I did wrong. Im happy
How's the flavor? It looks tasty. I like the color of that stuff. My last run was a taffy like consistency, but much darker cuz the trim I used came off of some plants that were extremely ripe. Each strain I have worked with produced a different color and consistency of the final product. Some waxed up, others made a shatter or glass, and others made Taffy.
Flavour and smell are great, beyter smelling then the plant it came off of. If you keep it in the fridge it has an ear waxy consistency but if you leave it out at room temp its more like cold molasses. Its grade A just not very stable, most likely due to the underdeveloped/toasted trichomes.
Hey duff, I see you said in a few of your threads you prefer wax...may I ask why? My take on it in my limited hash making experience, is that an extremely strong vacuum and heat over 107-110 can also boil off terps and some of the compounds that are considered to heal and stimulate the immune system. Sadly all that good sexiness has a low boiling point, is that of concern to you? Also, butane and silicone are not meant to come into contact with one another....do you blow onto parchment, teflon, glass? And the next question would be, would it even be safe to put unpurged oil onto parchment to then purge? Very curious what all of you guys think about that.
Purge at 95-105 F. Don't see how a vacuum could boil off terpenes. Blow into glass (pyrex), purge it, then move to parchment paper for handling and storage.
Yeah, I have started purging off my pyrex dish and using parchment for storage. Most of the terps boil off in the 220-400 Fahrenheit range but under a vacuum, those points lower correct? Delta 9 thc boils off at 314F....so regardless, in relation to the THC, some of those terps in the lower range are very possibly purging off as well. I wonder what the formula is to know what the boiling point lowers to when under vacuum? I'll be googling that here shortly lol. Wanted to add, that I also believe the muffin is a huge form of aggitation, I try to discourage that huge puff up, I want a thin film just slowly bubbling....that eventually happens after the muffin as you know but I think avoiding the muffin is a big part in making good shatter. For wax it would actually be beneficial to blow that muffin up, it's almost a form of whipping imo. I keep my temps around 107 best I can with my current set up, i'll be buying a vac oven soon....I am just trying to work of flavor rather than effect at the moment. The effect is there, it's bho, I want that flavor. I had a chance to hit some go x cherry pie, it was golden state extracts entry to the 710 cup....tasted like a straight pine cone got shoved in my mouth, tastiest concentrate I have ever had. I am on the search for that flavor...clearly the starting material is important, I understand that, but damn I am a flavor hunter at the moment.....and I think my tech is at fault here possibly...that's why all the questions
http://cannabis-med.org/data/pdf/2001-03-04-7.pdf Boiling points^^^ http://www.trimen.pl/witek/calculators/wrzenie.html The calculator I found^^^ I am asking about the wax simply to see what the draw is. It seems by some of my calculations, assuming the info and the calculator are correct, a few chemicals are boiled off at that heat (130-150F). I started asking myself this question becuase I would vac for a period, stop it, try a dab and see...what was happening as I added heat, time under vacuum, etc. I felt that at a certain point, my oil continued to bubble but I think what may have been purging wasn't a solvent. Clearly no way to know without lab testing samples but it's all I have out here sadly. That's why i'm curious if some of you guys that may have access to testing have been paying attention to these things?
If your purge is still bubbling and it's below 200F then that's solvent releasing. The key to a good purge while retaining volatile terpenes (this is where the flavor/aroma of your final product is held) is sloooooooooow purge with low temps. Duno if I ever top 100F. There's also indications that terpenes enhance the potency of the psychoactives. If this proves true, then as hash makers we need to do all we can to retain them in our final product.
I agree, so if the temp is about 100, I keep mine at 107 best I can, what kind of vac are you pulling? Near full vac or a bit less and for how long do you vac/? Also I believe even if you're under 200 and pulling near full vacuum, not all those bubbles are butane. Only way to know I guess is take samples at different times of the purge. I am going to lower my temp, I usually stop seeing a reaction at the 8 hour mark, I am guessing that times going to go up now. Thanks!
Depends on how lazy I'm feeling. Sometimes it's nothing more than setting a a small dish on top of the stereo to stay warm until I remember it a week later or it's pulling out the small vacuum chamber (rare any more). I will admit to incomplete purges when doing the extract and forget it method. I can only maintain -20psi and do three purges about 1/2 hour each near 100F when I use a vacuum chamber. Seems to do fine by me. All that marshmallowing is all gases escaping. Oxygen, CO2, butane...anything in a gaseous state is going to be bubbling to the surface under vacuum.
for the very late response. I was away again. Unless said it all. My draw to wax is as simple as this. Handling, it's easier to smoke for me in My situation. Shatter shatters and slings bits all over the place. Not saying one is better or worse, I'm just saying wax works better for me
