Figured this would be a good place to talk about actually meeting other growers in real life. It's a decision every grower has to make for themselves and might as well have new growers thinking about this early. For some of us on GK true real life friendships have developed. Some of us work alone with online as our only outside contact on things cannabis. Some live in states with saner laws concerning prohibition and openly interact with a freer cannabis culture. Most of us tread a fine line somewhere in between. We are social creatures. We innately crave interaction with those who think and act similarly to ourselves. We can't help it. So is it surprising that many of us risk our freedom to to share our lives with like minded people? Me thinks it's the most natural drive there is and figure every single grower there is will, at some point, divulge their secret. Stepping out of normal stealth mode I risked meeting another grower and oil maker tonight. This is always a tense time for all involved in states where real felonies with real jail time are the norm. Got me thinking though. What do GK growers think of as a reasonable level of risk in associating with other growers? First off. Don't do it. That's the absolute best advice you'll ever get on the subject. You will never be 100% safe. Not safe from snitches, not safe from DEA posers, not safe from some asshole looking to rip a grow sometime down the road. Of course, I make exceptions for my own advice and I know many of you folks do too. Thoughts?asssit:
It's risky business for sure and not for the faint of heart nor the foolish. Personally I've done it once however there were other shared interests without which the meet would've never happened. It worked out well and we developed a good offline friendship along the way. GK produces some solid buds in more way than one.asssit:
A friend of the Devil is a Friend of mine. I ain't out there offering up information though until I get to know ya or, you got a second from somebody I trust. Even though I'm in one of the WORST states for cultivation laws, LEO ain't my problem, rippers are. Last thing I need is to fill some jerkoff full of buckshot on my property... asssit:
Funny tho when you DO meet another grower in the darker markets, it's like insta-bond. You each immediately know and understand a rather intimate and private part of the other, and the shared risk and commensurate trust, as well as respect for the skill itself serve as a good springboard. I find it fascinating that anyone grows without GK. :roffl: It's been really interesting to see what non-GKers are up to. Same shit, slightly different language.
I understand what you mean ResinRubber about meeting another grower for the first time. I've only met with a few in the 9 years I have been growing. The biggest thing is trust. I've only met with GK members who have been long standing members. I won't meet with anyone who is a new grower in the business, Trust factor. There are several GK members that I trust and have met or will meet in the near future. The Advantage of knowing a few growers personally is you can swap genetics with out all the stress of ordering seeds and worring if they show in the mail or not. I can honestly say I'm glad I've met the people I have over the years. Once that laws change there are defiantly future friendship's out there I look forward to developing with some of the GK members.:redbong:
The animal part is right - social , not too sure - seen you pretty buzzed and you didnt seem too social Seriously, I worry more about some who are very active on other types of social media (other forum type things mmj related) where there is a lot more facebook type activity... I think I am less worried about meeting others who are active growers and would stay away from meeting up with anyone I would consider a casual poster.... I personally would not have gotten this involved without the encouragement and support from a couple on-line grower-friends... Its also really fun and rewarding to spend time in person sharing knowledge and weed and seeing first-hand how others run their operation. I would not have the genetics I currently have in my stable without these relationships - crap I even spent 4 days on a 35 foot sailboat puking my brains out just to get a cut!!!!!! Very good advice though - be careful, trust your instincts.
I had this same conversation with my wife when I met up with a fellow GKer to help him out a little. Should he come here? Should I go there? Let's meet at this spot. I told her I know he's a grower, I've been seeing his garden pics fora few years now. After you meet up for the first time, you have your first impression and gut feeling about them and can take the friendship from there. I'm a social animal to an extent, I just don't really care for the general population, most people suck and are looking to see what they can use you for in their little world.
Interesting that this thread came up at this time. For the five years plus that I have been on GK I have maintained a total security lock down in that I did not disclose the fact that I grow to ANYONE, other than here. the state I am in is pretty redneck with their laws. At the tail end of last winter, I needed a plumber to fix a problem at the main house that I was not tooled up to deal with. Old guy, like me, viet nam vet and nice guy in general. At the end of then day he asked if I smoked and I told him that occasionally I did but kept my cards pretty close to my vest. Over the next few weeks we became friends and I came to trust him. He grows as well and invited me up to his place to check out his small grow. After that I told him I was growing as well and the weed that I was sharing with him was my own. Got some nice validation from him on my stuff as he raved about it being some "really good weed". He was the only person other than the wife and I who had tried it. So now, I have a friend/ other grower that I can compare notes with and share strains, etc. For now, that is as far as I am going to put myself out there until the laws improve. Hell of a bunch of folks here that I look forward to meeting face to face one day. BBT
I am very weary about meeting people. I generally don't trust anybody I don't know. I seem like a very distant kind of person to new people unless I get a good feeling about them. Sometimes it takes awhile, other times it can be immediately. There are very few people that know I grow and they don't. I would kinda welcome the opportunity to meet some of you GKer's. Just another thing....how many of you have smoked with somebody and they see your bud and the first thing they say is "Wow. Nice. Do you grow?" It has happened to me a couple of times but I always answered "No but a very close friend does and he gives me nice buds." I wonder if I missed some opportunities to see their grows but just because we smoke or I suspect that you grow, I'm not admitting anything. edit: I also had the opportunity to get some clones from somebody that some friends know and they are in a newly legal state that is still working things out and would still sell me some clones. I was going to do it but chickened out and never went to get them.
This thread brings back memories. I met "Lemon Pie" here about 10 years ago. Some of you may remember her I know useless, canna girl and Mary Mary would....so after we figured out we lived about 40 miles apart we met up for a smoke. Then she came over and we gave each other some different clones. A couple of times we went to the beach for lunch, she came from more money than I, I had a rebel leather jacket with a confederate flag on the back, she didn't want me to wear it so I kinda got the idea she was prudish. she got into it with people here and got banned. Then I got hopped up on coke one time and asked her if she wanted to come over and sit on my face...:roffl: she politely declined, she came over and I gave her 12 c99 clones and I Never seen her again. Oh the good times. But you have to b carefull. I remember there was some guys here that met up and started dealing bud back and forth and one of them got busted. GK is a great place to learn and meet other growers. Just use common sense and b careful. I have met a lot of cool people here. Good to have friends you can trust that have the same hobbie. When things get legal all over I see big gk member meetings going on.
All the growers I know are old friends. I've video chat with stash a couple times like 8 years ago. Lol
I've had maybe eight friends who were other growers. Now I don't just refuse to make new friends who are growers, I refuse to make new friends. I can be open about my growing because I'm doing it under I-502 and not in my house and I love to share knowledge and promote the industry to strangers, but I don't trust many after all the BS I've been through with other growers. I'm very lucky with the good friends I do have - they are used to my slightly cracked social habits. But NONE of them grow or have any interest whatsoever. Plus there's the invariable question every time, "So what do you think of my grow?" A couple appreciated that I at least try to sugar coat it but most get offended that I don't think they're having good results in, say, an un-air conditioned bedroom with 3k watts in it or a big outdoor grow with 10 week strains (our first frost comes around week 6-7 up here). Both actual examples... and the outdoor guy had me help him clip up his fifty "medical" 7 foot tall, larfy-ass trees then paid me under $10 an hour. He got popped for that crop, too... had another 200 trees on the same site I didn't know about and he was pollen chucking autoflowers in the closet and selling the seeds through the mail. I just happened to not be there when the choppers came for him. And that wasn't nearly the worst CLIPPING job I've been on, much less sales, maintenance, partnerships/hired help issues, nonpayment/payment with counterfeit bills, etc. I've had TWO of my former "best friends" stick guns in my face and one of those was to steal about eight ounces. Way I see it, I have enough problems now without other folks' ridiculousness. Long story short, I like many of you very much and would prefer to keep communications online. I'm not at all friendly. Also, I'm back in the game and working as the master grower for a small I-502 business. Res was right - just can't stay away from this plant long term. Consider this my formal re-introduction
I have met one GKer so far and I'm glad I did. Its been at a public place and no toking took place. There are a couple others that a meet might be in the future. Thought I'd have been sailing by now... Lol. Also there's a certain mod I'm sure if we lived closer we would be close friends by now. It is awesome when a respected grower says your nuggets are as good as anything he has...
When I met up with a fellow GKer, I'll admit I was nervous as fuck, but I'd meet up with him again, no problem. He carried all the risk and probably should have been more worried about me than I him. I could have walked away with nothing. To me, that meant alot. Other than him, I know 2 other growers. One's family and we've never seen each others grow and the other hasn't seen my grow, but I've seen his. When I told him what I thought about his grow, he got offended and I haven't seen him since.
I have know regrets about meeting afew members of GK even tho when the one got busted I thought my door was next to get kicked in. I meet Mr. Astro he was a good friend for many years.GK is no different then out in the real world you'll meet some good people & some assholes you just got to weed the assholes out. - Bud
To some of you.. really? If I asked what you thought of my grow and you had negative responses, I'd ask how I could get it better. How can somebody ask and then get offended? They must know just by looking at their own grows that they can do better. shit, I sure wish that a few of you can come and give me some advice. I'd welcome the help. I know my gardens are ok but that's just it, they are ok, not great.
Some folks just can't take criticism. They think that because they're breaking the law, they're the shit.
JK nailed it on the head. I've come to the conclusion that 95% of what people do is just to satisfy their egos, regardless of profession. I don't know if being a provider of a controlled substance goes to some peoples' heads more than others or if this industry just attracts antisocial narcissists, but it seems like I run into WAY more in my drug circles than my other ones. It's just easier to cut the BS entirely. As an aside I get the same thing from dealers before they find out I know what I'm talking about. The last dealer I met tried to convince me all purple weed tasted the same and got pissed when I disagreed until one of our mutual friends told him I've been growing since the dealer was in middle school. Now we get on famously.