Does anyone have one? Do you like it? I was listening to the news....30 mil of these things have been sold....this year alone! Its changing the face of music....no more CDs.
i think ipods are too expensive for what they are. their are similiar productions of the same thing from other companys withought the high price, your paying for the apple name with an ipod.
Don't have one,and don't plan on owning one. How many of us have time,and freedom to walk around with headphones on.
I wouldn't spend my money on one. I was told they only last like what 18 months and then their battery dies and they don't make a replacement battery so your just fucked. don't know if they make batteries for them now or not but I was told that after 18 months their just another piece of junk to clutter up the house. Plus the damn things so small I'd probably lose it more then actually listening to it. If I had millions of dollars to toss around on nothing I might would consider getting one? PeAcE
Well ****....its just me and you nesta. Ive got the 30gb. I havent lost it yet....but I did have it replaced once. It came with a warranty so I didnt pay a dime for it. But it was not the battery....Im hard on equipment....work and all! I paid $350 for mine....but I saw the the money and space that I would save with it over CDs. Haze...they do have replacement batteries now.....but you do have to send it off for repair if the battery goes tits up. I can understand them being a lil expensive....but they also make smaller size ipods. I got my ol lady the 'shuffle' Ipod which holds about 200 songs....$79. She digs it! If you have a large music collection....5000 songs or more....Id recommend it. Worth the doe IMO. Its about space saving and consolidation for me personally. EDIT SFC...its not so much walking around with headphones. It is available with a lil device called iTrip. Plugs into the ipod and will play through any stereo. Local DJs have made it much easier on themselves.They dont have to haul around all their music now. And I listen to mine mostly in my car. (Edited by Tiberon at 5:30 am on Oct. 17, 2005) (Edited by Tiberon at 5:32 am on Oct. 17, 2005)
THey are pieces of fucking apple ****. Hey, IPOD=APPLE nuff fuckin said. DONT BUY ONE. JUNK! --------------- I received my first Macintosh back in 1983, almost a year before the public, as part of Apple's developer seed program. For years, I wrote about Macs and Apple in columns in A+, Computer Currents, Macworld, and MacUser magazines. The initial Mac was, well, different. And compelling. Unlike other computers of the time, it had an approachable and attractive consumer design and it pioneered so many things in the graphics world an exhaustive list would take you quite a while to digest. Early adopters, including myself, were ecstatic about the product, though a bit chagrined at some performance bits and, of course, the premium pricing. Apple iterated and iterated the Mac, but things started going south after the Macintosh II. Apple stopped listening to their customers, started designing for design's sake, didn't fix known issues and problems, and acted as if they were the undisputed champion of windows-and-mouse-based computing and could dictate what customers wanted. Those that are too proud and fail their following always fall hard. Apple went from being a key player in the personal computer market to being an also-ran. Apple's repeating all the same mistakes with the iPod. As someone who's owned the first three generations of iPod and a pair of Minis along the way, I think I can speak to this issue firsthand. First, you're probably wondering about all those iPods. Like many loyal iPod uses I started with a first generation 5GB model, but that was too constraining, so I sold it and upgraded twice, eventually getting to a 20GB version. I use this iPod for music in my vehicle when I'm traveling to and at workshops (students can attest to my eclectic collection of tracks, which I play through an FM connection) and as an emergency backup drive should I take more pictures than I can fit on my laptop and secondary USB drive. The Mini I bought to use while running and training. The first one, well, I'll get to that story in a minute. So, the facts to consider: I'm a loyal customer, use my iPods regularly and for dedicated purposes. There's a lot Apple got right about the iPod (and iTunes, which is needed to enjoy and get the most out of an iPod). The user interface is simple to learn, elegant in its simplicity, and (mostly) robust in its implementation. iTunes was one of the first MP3 players to get the basics right--no fad things like UI skins, no burping on rips, excellent integration with an accurate and deep online database, and so on. It has a simple to learn UI, is (almost) elegant in its simplicity, and well-behaved in its implementation, just like Macs were in their heyday. So what's wrong with this picture? While the iPod is a nice product, it's nowhere near perfect. The first issue is batteries. If you use an iPod regularly and as intended (which I do), you'll very quickly wonder where the replaceable battery is. First, on international plane trips (say Pennsylvania to Japan) you'll discover that you don't have enough battery oomph to last. Indeed, even for a Continental US criss-cross I have to make sure that I start with a fully charged battery, as I usually have to connect in Chicago and the overall travel time therefore exceeds my battery life. But the constant charging/discharging of a well-used iPod eventually leads to poorer battery longevity and eventually failure. For many of us, this cycle of decline starts about 12 months after first use. Replacing a failing iPod battery is a chore, at least if you don't want to damage your beautiful toy's pretty face. So, the first strike against the first generation iPods was: no removeable/replaceable battery. Ditto the second generation. Ditto the third generation. Ditto the fourth generation. Ditto the Mini. Hello? Is anyone home at Apple? Did you folks not learn anything from the PocketPC or other consumer portable device makers? Apparently not. And don't tell me that a removeable battery would "ruin" the industrial design of the case. Nonsense. It didn't ruin the Powerbook's design, it won't ruin the iPod's. Seriously, this is a major flaw, and when batteries fail, an iPod user starts thinking about the hassle and cost of replacing the battery versus buying a new generation MP3 player. Does Apple think that they'll always have a majority share of the disk-based MP3 player market? If so, they'd better think different. Oh, wait, that's their slogan, isn't it? Mabye they'd better think different differently. The second issue is multiple computers and multiple iPods. And for me, multiple operating systems. So, I've ripped my 2000+ CDs into Apple's format and put them on one of my computers. I move some over to my iPod. Hmm. What if I want to move them to my other computer or Mini? You can't copy from the iPod to a computer, apparently because Apple is in fear of Copyright issues. Okay, there used to be third party products that could help you out here, but the latest update to the iTunes and iPod software deliberately break that. Oh-oh. Apple's not going to allow customers to do what they want to do with music they have fair use rights to (heck, what if it were something even more simple, such as a recording I made with Belkin's input device directly into my iPod? Is Apple protecting me from my own Copyright?). , but this again shows a disdain for what the customer thinks or wants to do. Long term, that will come to hurt Apple, because... ...with the Mini I want to move stuff off it temporarily and move new stuff on. Obviously, as it only has 4GB of space and I've got 40GBs of MP3 files. Now if I do this on my host iTunes machine at home, I'm all set (well, not quite--building a Mini's worth of selections out of a year's worth of tracks isn't exactly intuitive, simple, or logical the way Apple's implemented it, but that's another story). But if I'm traveling (and I travel a lot, which was one of the things that attracted me to an iPod), I'm SOL. I can't move the stuff off to my Powerbook, I can only overwrite it from the Powerbook, which means I then have to keep all the music I might want on my portable computer, which is a big waste of storage space. Beyond that, copying the tracks from my desktop to my Powerbook iTunes is simple and not broken in the OS, so why the restrictions in the iPod to Powerbook? A third issue is quality. If you use an iPod heavily, be prepared to protect it with some sort of soft, protective housing. This was most obvious to me on my first Mini, whose click wheel stopped clicking reliably. I can turn the Mini on and navigate okay, but the bottom click position isn't reliable in turning the Mini off. For awhile the bottom click seemed to migrate up and to the right, but eventually it just became unfindable. Thus, if I used the Mini on a run, I had to leave it powered up at the end of the run and just let it's battery wear out. Not very effective power management, but it works. In general, one reason the iPods are so small is that they're tightly packed with the electronics goods. With five iPods, I've had two failures that I'd say were due to that tightness of fit. So by a prophylactic cover for your iPod--beyond keeping the nice casework from getting scratched, it might help keep the innards from getting pressed to hard in the wrong way. But the ultimate problem with iPods is this: Apple appears to be trying to go-it-alone again, which is a certain method of losing market share as competitors come on board. They've resisted all logical licensing approaches, even ones that would keep them largely in control, and made one licensing contract that makes little or no sense (HP). Look, if you want a hardware device to be a standard, you have to let the software vendors play. That includes Real, MusicMatch, and the rest. But the problem, I think, is that Apple realizes that their hardware really isn't unique beyond industrial design, and thus can't be protected as a standard. That leaves only the FairPlay protocols, iTunes, and the control wheel as the only protectable components, and Apple has no idea how to license software, while the control wheel has other alternatives. Apple has great ideas, but they have no idea how to give them long-term legs. It's like watching a feature film company that can't discover television, DVD, and foreign rights licensing. Frightening. In short, Apple is behaving just like they did with the Macintosh. Initial product and iterations are great, consumer friendly and enticing. But price didn't come down, utility and performance didn't go up fast enough, quality has some warts, users' demands weren't met, the system was kept closed and unlicensed (except for a short poorly considered fling with the Mac OS) and eventually Apple was left with little market share and just a small, loyal following. Sound familiar? That's exactly what's happening with the iPod. As I write this, Apple's stock is at a recent high. I'll predict this: unless you see Apple get with the program on the iPod, it won't be high for long. I'll be looking harder at the competition next time my iPod battery needs replacing. So will a lot of other folks. (Just in case you can't figure it out from the article, Apple, the right-hand column has the short list of things to fix.)
i got a 4th generation 20gb iPod almost a year ago and i love it. now i have over 3,000 songs that i can take with me anywhere, including my car. without buying overpriced accessories from apple i used the auxiliary RCA connection to plug my iPod directly into my car stereo with the headphone jack. and now, no more CDs cluttering my car! agrowguy made a few good points. if you download music with iTunes you probably won't like the flexibility iTunes provides -- none whatsoever. the music you purchase online is encrypted (not standard MP3 files) so they only work with iTunes and your iPod. stick with regular MP3 files (legal or not) and you can still share with friends. iTunes is good for the casual computer user who needs to keep things simple. for those of you who require complete control like me, i suggest buying software called Anapod for $20 or $30. it will integrate your iPod library into Windows Explorer (sorry MAC users), giving you the ability to customize everything iTunes won't allow. if you're worried the next iTunes/iPod update will cause Anapod to stop working, then don't download any updates -- they aren't necessary.
i have had two, i sold a 10Gig andgot a 20 gig, Have had it for two plus years with no probs. Worth every penny. Even if you do have a prob, like tibs said apple takes care of it.
QUOTE iTrip. Plugs into the ipod and will play through any stereo. Yup, I have the 40GB one, and I'm getting the video one. They rock! agrowguy's spent his piggie bank wad on a Roor! LMAO No wonder he's dissing the co. that sold 30 million ipods. How many bongs did Roor sell? ONE to him! LMAO 30 million people agree, it's the best thing since sliced bread.
Hey MD good to see you around here. I wasn't aware you could plug it into a home ,or car system. Now as soon as they make it link up with sirius I may be interested.
Yeah, it's the coolest thing! You can take your whole music libray and audio books with you in your car, plug the adapter in your cigarette lighter and your ituned Amazing!!!!
i have thought about getting an ipod. But they are expensive, and there are other mp3 machines out there that i will look into before i settle on an ipod. I am not a fan of apple in much any way and am a bit skeptical.
I don't even own a CD player. I have about 500 vinyl LPs and a lot of cassettes. I don't plan to go any further.
i love vinyl which is the opposite of this thread i guess. wa (Edited by wawona at 5:46 pm on Oct. 17, 2005)
I never realised how amny people have them shits til I started going to this rich white school seems like everyone has one craziness.
I use the Archos Jukebox and love it. Can take some abuse. Also take AA bateries that recharge. Check out Archos on Ebay for some deals. 5150
