Swine Flu...please read

it aint the swine flu that kills its the antidote!


Im with herb,from reading various articles online from TIME and newyork times aswell as other medical blogs it seems that influenza and swine flu vaccine TAMIFLU can cause more danger to your health than the actual swine virus itself Like lion says this swine flu aint even as big a killer really as the common cold,its hit the uk,an epidemic they say,well 16 or 17 deaths aint an epidemic....more ppl die daily from the common cold,17 ppl out of 80 million brits...hmmmm,dont think i'll be taking ANY govt vacines for rest of my life,iv had my TB jab as a teen and a tetanus as a kid aswell as the MMR,thats all i need,oh yeah iv been inoculated against hepatatitus a and b too but thats another story,lol.Peace:jj:


July 17, 2009


Potential Dangers Of Anti-Influenza Drug Tamiflu


By innetent


By Dr. Ben Kim on November 26, 2005


I just read a disturbing article in the New York Times about recent reports of deaths and abnormal behaviour in Japanese children who were given the anti-influenza drug Tamiflu.


Here is a summary of the key points I learned from this article:


1. Tamiflu was approved for use in the United States in 1999, and in Japan in late 2000.


2. According to Roche, the manufacturer of Tamiflu, of the 13 million prescriptions written for children worldwide, 11.6 million have been in Japan.


3. According to documents prepared by FDA reviewers, 12 Japanese children, ages 1 to 16, have died after taking Tamiflu. Six of these children, ages 2 to 4, were completely healthy before getting the flu. In the words of the FDA reviewers, “it is concerning that six young patients died suddenly within one to two days after initiation of oseltamivir therapy.”


4. Also according to the FDA reviewers, there have been 32 reported instances of “neuropsychiatric events” worldwide, with 31 of them occuring in Japan. These neuropsychiatric events include delirium, abnormal behaviour, and hallucinations.


5. Two Japanese boys, ages 12 and 13, jumped from the second story windows of their homes after receiving two doses of Tamiflu.


6. Two Japanese teenagers who died after receiving Tamiflu are thought to have committed suicide.


7. An 8 year old Japanese boy had a frightening hallucination three hours after receiving his first dose of Tamiflu and rushed into the street outside of his house.


8. There have been multiple reports of severe skin reactions in adults and children all over the world who have taken Tamiflu.


Predictably, Roche has responded to this data by saying that “the reports of these problems were rare given that millions of people had used the drug, and that the problems might have been caused by the flu itself.”


Roche has also said that “the death rate among children taking Tamiflu was only one in a million and that the rate of death and other problems was no greater than in children with the flu who did not take the drug.”


If this is in fact true, then why take the drug in the first place? If the rates of death for children who take Tamiflu and children who don’t take it are the same, why take Tamiflu at all?


for the cliche, but no amount of money in this world could persuade me to take Tamiflu or any other flu drug or vaccine. And you better believe that I’d do everything I possibly could to make sure that my own child is never exposed to such drugs. It amazes and saddens me to know that so many children and adults all over the world take drugs like Tamiflu thinking that they are perfectly safe and that they are doing something good for their health.

Oh yeah and with guys like dick cheney and donald rumsfield owning mass shares in TAMIFLU aswell as other influential bilderbergers,does that not seem as if they like saddam did testing nerve gas on the kurds,a bit like america under the previous regime thought "lets drop this swine virus in mexico,it helps us reduce the global population by the 80% required of us plus we make lotsa money"...sounds dodgy to me


Read on if you give a shit>


Swine Flu: TAMIFLU, the Danger Drug – dont take under any circumstances


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Isn’t it funny how

Donald Rumsfeld

has huge shares in Tamiflu and this is the governments number one choice for YOUR vaccinations if need be due to a pandemic.



Read the following article and be shocked. I would not go near this Tamiflu at all. sounds fishy to me.



Danger from the SWINE flu/Bird-Flu Drug?


By Bryan Walsh/Tokyo Tuesday, Mar. 20, 2007





A worker supervises the packaging of Tamifu, the drug that combats the effects of bird flu in humans in this undated company handout photo from Swiss pharmaceutical concern Roche Products.


In 2004 a 17-year-old boy in the Japanese town of Gero suddenly ran out of his home and into the middle of a busy street, where he was struck and killed by a truck. In 2005 a 14-year-old boy Chiryu got out of bed, climbed the wall outside his parent’s ninth-floor apartment and dropped from the edge. And last month, in two separate incidents, a 14-year old male and a 14-year old female fell to their deaths from their respective high-rise apartment buildings. No one left a suicide note.


What they have in common is that each victim took the influenza antiviral Tamiflu shortly before they died. According to the Japanese Health Ministry, 54 people have died after taking Tamiflu — the drug governments around the world have stockpiled for use against avian flu — since the drug was approved for use in Japan in 2000. Most suspiciously, in multiple cases people, including those cases above, acted erratically after taking Tamiflu. Though the Health Ministry has said there is no clear evidence linking Tamiflu to the deaths, there is growing concern among doctors and parents in Japan over the drug’s possible side effects. That is potential cause for concern in the rest of the world, because in the absence of a vaccine, Tamiflu will be the drug of first and last resort in the event of a pandemic.


The anti-Tamiflu forces in Japan are led by Dr. Rokuro Hama, an epidemiologist and internal medicine specialist who heads the Japan Institute of Pharmacovigilance, a medical industry watchdog. Hama believes that Tamiflu can directly cause temporary neurological disorders in a small percentage of users — especially young people. That can lead to abnormal behavior, such as a seemingly happy, healthy teenager suddenly deciding to leap off a high-rise apartment building. Hama also notes that the Tamiflu doses taken in Japan can be as much as 10 times greater than the normal amount taken in the U.S., which could aggravate the side effects. “There is no possibility whatsoever” that there could be another cause behind the Tamiflu deaths, says Hama. “Ultimately it should be taken off the market.”


But according to the Japanese Health Ministry — and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) — the side effects that Hama has seen are more likely caused by influenza itself.


In rare juvenile cases influenza can cause brain inflammation — encephalitis — that can lead to neuropsychiatric events. In fact, it was in Japan in the mid-1990s that pediatricians first began reporting such cases, which led to intense nationwide surveillance of pediatric influenza.


Hama notes, however, that it was around that same time that Tamiflu became widely used in the country. (Tamiflu is taken far more often here than in any other country; Japanese doctors prescribed the drug 24.5 million times between 2001 and 2005,compared to just 6.5 million prescriptions in the U.S.)


Cases that included neurological side effects seemed to spike at the same time that Tamiflu prescriptions rose in Japan. Nevertheless, it is possible that the side effects accompanied the disease and that more such extreme cases were seen because doctors were looking harder.


That hypothesis was bolstered by a Ministry of Health study last year that investigated 2,800 influenza cases and found that virtually the same percentage of victims showed abnormal behavior whether or not they had taken Tamiflu. Still, the recent spate of suspicious deaths was enough for the ministry late last month to issue a general warning that influenza can cause psychiatric problems.


For its part the FDA last autumn reviewed 103 cases of neuropsychiatric events associated with Tamiflu use — 95% of the cases came from Japan — and concluded that it could not conclude whether the events were due to the drug, to influenza or some combination of the two. But the FDA did point out that the sudden suicide attempts seen in Japan were quite unlike most cases of influenza-induced delirium, and registered concern that there could be a spike in neuropsychiatric events in the U.S. if American usage of Tamiflu eventually matched the levels seen in Japan.


The FDA has required Roche, the Swiss company that makes the drug, to put a caution on Tamiflu labels urging patients, doctors and parents to look out for strange behavior in anyone taking Tamiflu. Roche accepted the label change but, said a spokesperson, �these events are extremely rare in relation to the number of patients treated.� The company reiterates that none of the cases were linked to Tamiflu.


If Tamiflu were only needed for normal, seasonal influenza, this debate wouldn’t matter outside Japan. In most Western countries Tamiflu, which can speed up recovery from the flu by a day or so at most, has barely been used. It’s only been in prescription drug-happy Japan, where the government effectively made Tamiflu free, that the drug became popular before bird flu made it a household word. But because Tamiflu has been one of the few drugs to show effectiveness against H5N1 avian flu, it has become the key pharmacological component in international pandemic preparation plans. If a pandemic were to strike tomorrow, tens of millions of people could soon be given Tamiflu.


So while it is unlikely that the drug will be withheld due to the nebulous concerns out of Japan, the uncertainty only adds to the long list of worries that scientists, bureaucrats and politicians must prepare for in case of catastrophe.


With reporting by Michiko Toyama/Tokyo

 

i hear ya man!


assit:haha,ah herb man,reading your posts with links to stuff iv recently read and reading what you posted was like some fucker doing my posts for me,lol,i am so against ANY form of mandotory id cards with biometric scans that the uk have now scrapped i hope:icon_confused: ,they contain retinal,fingerprint and a barcode system where they wanted to insert a minute chip in our bodies ,the uk ppl aint taking that shit,lol,but i see the bildebergers puppeteers aint giving up...they stated long ago their aim was to reduce the popuklation of the earth by a fuckin huge 80% aye right ye are pal,no fuckin way,thats like saying lets get rid of all without billions of cash,these cunts are rat bastards who run our nations and the global instituions i swear,i aint gettin no jabs,i'll sit tokin till the hype and numbers die downPeace guys