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Discussion in 'Smokers Lounge' started by ChronixGrower11, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. ChronixGrower11

    ChronixGrower11 Burning in Lasagna Hell

    Hey there everybody at GK. Recently I have been getting a bad cough from smoking, plus being straight up depressed when I can't be high. I think its gotten to the point I need to quit. Shit, I dont even feel normal when im sober! I dont really know whats wrong with me, or if others who have used so much feel like me? I just want to feel okay again when im sober, i've smoked my depression/troubles & fears and such away so much i'm starting to scare myself. My panic disorder has come back in full swing, not to mention I feel bi polar and my emotions are about as predictable as the weather these days. Can someone give me advice? Im really lost.
     
  2. Mr.Dope

    Mr.Dope Master Grower Of The Kind

    Dude ive had that happen to me. Just go without smoking untill you feel comfortable again. You must be a daily 24/7 smoker.


    Mr.Dope
     
  3. the_clairvoyant89

    the_clairvoyant89 Developed Alternating Nodes

    DO NOT SMOKE TO TAKE THE PAIN AWAY! That is just stupid! this is why they say you can get addicted to marijuana, if you use it to take away depression you are dependent on marijuana, there is no physical way to be addicted to marijuana, but people like you are the ones that encourage those stupid ass anti-marijuana commercials
     
  4. Randy High

    Randy High Organic Alumni

    Well seeing your Dr. is a good thing.


    Yet I can't say bad things about people who can stop their drug usage as needed.


    The issues you have may be a life long thing so a long term strategy must be the goal.


    Best wishes
     
  5. ChronixGrower11

    ChronixGrower11 Burning in Lasagna Hell

    Mary, Shes been a friend of mine, and an Enemy.


    Well I stopped taking my meds and for a long ass while I smoked aleast 3 grams a day. And the next morning i would feel normal, not how I do now.


    I dont think im going to be the inspiration for any anti drug commericals though. The zoloft I was on made me addicted to it, and it was a bitch to quit. Ganj became a part of my life first for fun, then one time I had a real bad event take place and I smoked and it made it 10x better! I knew this was totally fucked so I tried not to do it, but when somethin bad happens, you gotta admit, a toke would sound amazing. But, I continued to wake n bake pretty much everyday and smoke atleast once more that day.


    At this point it was just a tool, not necessesity. When your depressed, logic is overrided by a uncontrollable emotion I.E. sense of desperation,loneliness or suicidal thoughts even. A desire to reach some sort of stability further employed the use of the magic herb. I can see why it may be labelled as an addictive substance, but that is only for some (I have an addictive personality,when i enjoy something i tend to do it..A LOT), and because I used so much it became engrained in my daily life to the extent that I began rationalizing my true purpose for smoking. When you know you are showing warning signs,you are actually hurting yourself, and can convince yourself its okay, it doesnt matter. (my veins popping out, eyes perma. red, ignoring chest pains..) Thats when you know its deep man.
     
  6. george roberts

    george roberts SocialistRepublkOfGrowknd

    3 grams a day of chronic is alot of pot to smoke. Specially if you can't handle it. Some peeps can handle that amount. If I were to smoke that much I'd have such a tolerance built up that it would suck ass. Not to mention the shitty way it treats your lungs. have you considered eating it? Much easier on your lungs. Shit you culd grind your shit up and putt it into gel capsulses and just eat it. Butt I'd reccommend you quit for one day then smoke. Then quit for 2 days and then smoke. Then go for 3 days and then smoke. Then go for 4 days.......ect. get to the point where you can go a month and then your good to go. Stay off it for a month and exercise 3 times a week. Exercise will help your body rid itself of the MJ chemicles. Which will help you with your depression. If you exercise enough yur body releases endorphins which give a good rush and a nice buzz. Exercise also helps with self confidence as you realize that you are doing what is right for your body. Not to mention the benefits it bestows to the way yu look. I find when I exercise I have more energy and pot smokers need all the energy we can get. :D
     
  7. ChronixGrower11

    ChronixGrower11 Burning in Lasagna Hell

    Oh I handle it very well, but its like negative effects are continually lasting longer and fucking my sober perception up, if that makes any sense.
     
  8. george roberts

    george roberts SocialistRepublkOfGrowknd

    LOL, your sayin the side effects are kickin your ass. I understand. It is a battle butt anything worthwile in life is. Exercise bro and you will be mucho happier. I have to constantly fight off the lack of energy. I wish I coud get my hands on the shit that was around in the '80's. Tons of energy butt the tradeoff is paranoia. Dalat sounds like the perfect high. Too badd the only thing that will grow here at 8000'+ is lowryder and why go thru the trouble of growing for mids at the best?


    I was on Anti Depressents and they suck ass. Not to mention that my sex drive took a major dive. When I'm on those suckers once I cum it's over for at least 4 hours. When I'm not on the shit I can keep it up for 4 hours. LOL. I hated them so badd and my energy was way low.


    Exercise!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. Marcus

    Marcus New Sprout

    just quit smokin for a few days and then only smoke like 1 or 2 times a day. it should clear right up
     
  10. rtyree

    rtyree Latae Sententiae Excommunication

    thats what we used to call burned out. Your officially a burnout pick up your sash and tiara at the door take a week off and start over
     
  11. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    yeah i have those spurt almost exactly what you had i used to have anxiety and depression problems but i just finally became ok with everything so that shit hasn't been a problem lately at all but as for the waking up and feeling out of tune well that shit happens to me from time to time and i ussually go a head and start eating some niacin and drinking water like i'm trying to pass a drug test do that for two days then just don't smoke for a few more days about a week later everything is back to normal. Shit just happens when i start smoking too much that my body can't metabolize it quick enough so it is kinda like a THC back up in my system!
     
  12. smotpoker

    smotpoker Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    Man, if you take just a week off and then get back to it, nothings going to change. Thats not even enough time to get the herb out of your system. If i were you I would look for an NA meeting in your area. Its like AA but more for drugs. I know theres alot of stigma's attached to aa/na but theyre a good place to go and hash out whats going on in your head with other people who know exactly what your talking about. You don't have to say your going to stop smoking the rest of your life or any of that bullshit. It'll help just get back on the level of the real world.


    I've been around here long enough to know that asking a bunch of potheads abnout stopping smoking isn't going to get a lot of good advice :rolleyes:


    And yea know, if na isnt your bag of tea, then replace your pot dependancy with exersize. When you feel like smoking get down and do some pushups or go for a run or go to the gym. If you do that for a couple months then not only will you be in kick ass shape and feel great, but you won't be burning anymore. But i seriously suggest an NA meeting.


    It took me a solid 3 months of no smoking before i could 'see clearly' this 2 days, a week bullshit won't do anything but save you some money and give your lungs a little break
     
  13. agrowguy

    agrowguy Excommunicated

    Thats not nice dude.


    Chronix - I think we're long lost brothers.
     
  14. ChronixGrower11

    ChronixGrower11 Burning in Lasagna Hell

    We just might be Ags, but what makes you so sure? ;)
     
  15. Cannagirl

    Cannagirl Preheat to 420

    I deal with a lot of depression/anxiety too. I also feel much worse when I don't have weed. It's a physcological thing. So far I have not been able to beat it. Only thing is doing things to keep my mind off of weed. I can afford it, kinda, but it's too damn expensive and I wont have a harvest for a couple months. I have to admit I have been searching for something to replace it with for a while. I have the kind of mindset where I feel like I HAVE to have the option of being on something. That's a bad way to go. I tried smoking ciggs a little bit because I know I don't get addicted to them (don't ask me why, but I have gone through a few packs in about 3 years but never felt any sort of addiction whatsoever). But it's not the same. Also I feel a nicotine high which is ok, they smell to high hell so I can't smoke inside which is where I smoke my weed.


    I guess nothing I have said is all that helpful. But sometimes its nice to know you are not alone. And you definately aint. I am totally physcologically addicted to weed. I smoke daily and even when I go like 2 days it drives me crazy. I want so badly to get past it. It's just a will power thing.


    But hell, when I grow again which is soon (yay) i'm not gonna care and smoke whenever I want, however much I want. Man I can't wait. Once you have grown and then gone back to $50 8s....it's a very very bad thing.
     
  16. ChronixGrower11

    ChronixGrower11 Burning in Lasagna Hell

    Thanks


    Thanks for the input guys! Reminded once again why I considered GK my family! No matter the assholes that come, and the good people that go, the majority are still with me. :) I quit cigs(3 days now) and so far im feeling much better, im trying to maintain less than 1gram a day for the greenery until my mind is actually at ease with the notion of quitting. I have been biking more in the past few days than I have since I was 11. I seem to have more energy and I feel stronger too.


    A thing I have noticed however is my panic is usually activated by a combination of fatigue(mj & enormous ongoing lack of sleep), and large ammounts of people.


    I have considered that the MJ has depleted my seratonin & dopamine, and that smoking only temporarily addresses the problem. BUT, coming down is now 'lower' than sober, so i feel like shit. I went long time smoking, almost 2.5years now on average damn near everyday, and had no panic attacks. Once your dopamine is gone, it really is gone. Now thoughts of what if have came back and now randomly and sporadically fill my head, and my ability I once had to talk myself out of panic attacks has left me. Its like taking a step back to the sixth grade when I first experienced panic attacks & anxiety + depression. No, hormones were not nice to me in that respect.


    Now something else is different, and doing (what the DEA considers) drugs is my trigger, or maybe not. Although my living environment is not exactly stable either. I have a feeling its a combination of too much of everything for far too long.


    Maybe we all need to reflect our feelings like this sometimes, it sure puts a mind to rest a bit.
     

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