Can anyone else see what i forsee?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TheApprentice, Nov 1, 2008.

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Can anyone else see what i forsee?

  1. YES.Sporadic wars in certain nations but not all out WORLD WAR

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  2. YES.ALL OUT WORLD WAR IS POSSIBLE DUE TO THIS AND A POSSIBLE COLLAPSE OF THE IMF!

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  3. MAYBE(on the fence for the meantime)

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  4. NO. IT WONT GET THAT FAR.

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  1. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Can anyone else apart from my stoned ass see just HOW a 3rd world war or another war in europe at the least is only years around the corner:ponder:

    Iv just posted a few articles and their reliable sources in Herbsparky's 'American/World Economy' thread in this forum and i was astounded to find out that the IMF aka WORLD BANK only have $250billion in the money pot,that may sound a lot but when you think that in recent weeks they alone have had to bail out 3 bankrupted european nations in ICELAND,HUNGARY and UKRAINE TO THE SUM OF BILLIONS....

    ...AND APPARENTLY THESE SAME SOURCES SAY THAT TURKEY,ROMANIA AND OTHER EASTERN EUROPEAN NATIONS ARE SET TO FOLLOW!:icon_confused:

    iN ASIA PAKISTAN ALSO NEEDS A BAIL OUT,THE HALLS OF THE IMF HAVE A QUEUE FULL OF NATIONS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD INCLUDING SOUTH AMERICA ALL WAITING FOR A HAND OUT OR BAIL OUT FROM THE IMF WHICH THE IMF SIMPLY CANNOT COPE WITH.... THESE ARE NATIONS THAT DONT HAVE BOOMING ECONOMY AND INDUSTRY LIKE THE UK,USA AND OTHER NATIONS LIKE CHINA,ETC...

    My point is.... we(europe and the USA) have sold DEMOCRACY and CAPITALISM to ALL of these eastern euro nations,especially the ex soviet block ones and muslim nations... and now that theres a global reccession underway that could EASILY spiral towards a DEPRESSION dont none of y'all think that maybe some of these countries like Pakistan and Russia and others that are suffering are gonna see the state and graveness of their nations as indications that they never should have gotten into bed with us westerners:ponder:

    If so then hate and resentment even isolationism or worse,reverting back to old ways are par for the course IMHO for these nations,we told them "come join our free world,we are proseperous and you will be too" and now that they all bought into that ideal lock stock and barrel then SURELY theres gonna be a backlash and we are simply giving these nations reasons to hate us more for our way of life not to mention the fact that other nations who are on the outside looking in aint NEVER gonna wanna play with us now... IMHO i see wars ahead and as always i see it starting in Europe,all the eastern euro nations like Turkey and Russia aswell as russias satellite states like georgia,ukraine,kazakstan,uzbekistn,chechnya MUST stay on their feet economicallly cos if a few nations on the eastern european borders go bankrupt like some others in europe then these are the nations that are right beside afghansitan and to think that they could become the new haven for terrorists hell bent on war..

    THIS AINT ABSURD,IF IT IS EINSTEIN ALWAYS SAID THAT THE BEST OR MOST PROBABLE IDEAS ALWAYS SOUND ABSURD AT FIRST,BUT ITS NOT ABSURD TO SEE HOW EASY THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS COULD LEAD EUROPE,NATO,even the world into more wars breaking out all over the place and AL QUIEDA know very well that if they can open up their JIHAD on more than one or two fronts like gaining footholds in some of these nations or worse gaining POWER of these nations,then they know that the USA and the UK canot possibly keep upgrading their military or even keep the army functioning as it is now nevermind in the event of future wars with any of these nations....ppl like Bin Laden must be savouring every bit of this right now cos they see nations that believed in the west now on their knees similar to Argentina a few years back and thats the last thing eastern europe needs right now is any more euro wars like in bosnia,croatia and serbia/kosovo,etc nevermind the possibility of turkey,pakistan and other muslim nations on russia border and even russia itself... these nations are gonna want payback and if they aint able to feed themselves or earn then what they gonna do?????


    They gonna do the EXACT same as the Iraqis did when coalition forces invaded and left a vacum (especially after firing half a million iraqi army/rebublican guard who knew where all the ammo and shit was hidden,the same ppl who are now the insurgents:eusa_doh:)...these ppl will do what ANY self respectng person with a family will do and thats FIGHT to survive.... something tells me CHINA is gonna become a MAJOR WORLD SUPER POWER quicke than the 20 years time analysts predict,i see it more like 10 years MAXIMUM!~:eek:

    It soooo easy to see how a new euro war will start,this is just like world war one all over again....lets just think about this for a second,it is a new century but history is repeating itself IMO>>>> America suffered a great depression last century and due to that the USA became increasingly ISOLATIONIST as it tried to stay out of foreign affairs to fix its home affairs and thats when all hell broke loose in europe and 2 world wars later the IMF was set up and designed to keep all the nations in line by means of keeping them ADDICTED to MONEY!

    So it aint really that radical to think to yourself that as America is in recession that a new president like Obama may want to become isolationsit and that spells bad news all over the world whether in europe ,asia or the middle east,etc:icon_eek: These nations must all be secretly seething at what is occuring,we didnt tell them this could happen when we sold them democracy and the idea of capitalism now did we:ponder:

    I swear,WAR is the next evolutionary process of this ongoing global reccession,all its gonna take to bring that WAR (imo,just MY:2c:) to the brink even faster will be say the collapse of the IMF and a GLOBAL DEPRESSION instead of RECESSION...am i the only one who thinks like this,am i just a stoner lost in a haze of thoughts or is this real?Well wars have started for less in the past and in this day and age the stakes are higher so YES i believe war is on the horizon,maybe not with america although i can forsee a civil war in america just as easily as a european war,etc.Just wondering what other ppl thought the worst thing could happen out of all this crazy financial turmoil....:smokin:
     
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  2. Guerilla Family

    Guerilla Family Serious Guerilla Farmer

    Thats a lot of thoughts. Its all very probable. I believe our military is stretch so thin and is as weak as ever. Its much harder to recruit ppl for the military than it has ever been in the past. Our economy is surely falling into a depression. I dont know a lot on this subject but it all makes good sense to me.


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  3. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    *The>"I've been awake tokin w/widow for 48hours political apocalypse long post/rant"*


    Yeah?Cool:thumbsup:....so i aint just a rambling stoner then,lol:roll:


    Seriously though, i dont pretend to be ANY kind of expert in politics or any other field in life nothing but i always trust my gut and i swear iv not suddenly just felt like this,iv often thought to myself that a WWIII will occur in my lifetime ,its one of the things i remember me old grandfather saying to me before he died,he always told me to get prepped,"be prepared " and that goes for a lot of things,he wasnt some conspiracy loon what he meant was FAMINE will ALWAYS return,DISEASES will always return or new ones arrive that kill,WARS will ALWAYS happen and my grandfather pointed out to me that theres never been an end to war,its just that we dont always here abut it...


    Take AFRICA for instance,there is constantly war whether its Rwanda's genocide or the current war with the rebels about to seize control of the congo but we just dont get to hear it all cos our countries have so much other shit going on to report on so the point i guess is we are already at war and theres only gonn be more war abnd more war,take palestine and israel for instance,thats a never ending battle that i doubt will ever end but in saying that i NEVER thought id see the day catholics and protestants worked,played and slept peacefuklly together in northern ireland(Ulster where my dads side hail from) but tony blair managed to end the 'troubkles' that had went on for centuries with the good friday agreem,ent and now the IRA have disbanded as have their portstant counterparts/enemies,etc...


    BACK ON TOPIC OF MY #1 POST: Soooo iv ALWAYS thought the shits gonna hit the fan i just didnt know how but as i watch this financial crisis of epic proportions bankrupt ancient nations like Iceland,Hungary and Ukraine with Pakistand and Turkey not far behind it just seems to click like a lightbulb going of,i was toking awy and reading about how it is POSSIBLE for the downfall of the IMF,if thats really possible then the world as we know it would cease to exists cos that IMF is like a global co operative bank between nations instead of ppl,if it goes bust so do all of us and i dont mean a recession or evebn depression im talkin anarchy,rebellion all that shit...


    When 9/11 occurre3d tragically i thought " thats it,this is the end game,this is how WWIII is gonna start " but thats just to obvious,either that WAS the plan of the 'elite' and it went wrong so now they have decided thee best way to start a war on your own ppl is to first cripple them or seriously wound them and what better a way to kill or wound a person than via the economy,leave ppl with nothing and let us all fight every -man for himself type shit while they round us all up and keep us all in intenrment camps and shit like that,they have been prqactising this shit for years but like you say G-FAM,the army in the states and 100% ours here in the UK is sooo over stretched and its fuckin horible to hear of army buddies being killed in roadside bombs all cos the UK govt didnt want to pay a LITTLE extra cash to make their jeeps and hummers armour plated which would have saved their lives.... the war goes on daily and has NO signs of ending,in fact i see it rapidly escalating to Iran then Syria cos they got oil and we want it plain and simple.. IMPERIALSIM LIVES ON:5headache:


    I honestly think this financial crisis is only gonna get far worse,the UK is now in reccession aswell as the USA and meanwhile our enemies like Russia(grow rich with gas and oil daily) and Saudi Arabia(yup they are our enemies NOT allies just cos they give us a few airfields/army bases on their land) along with ALL the fundamental Islamic regimes that are rich in oil... so when the USA and western europe goes bankrupt along with the rest of the world at least our potential enemies have LOTS AND LOTS OF UNTAPPED RESERVES OF ENERGY,meanwhile the UK will try and drink up every bit of oil in the north sea thats left and that aint a lot same as the USA will start drilling the hell out of alaska and ofshore california,etc but our enemies have MORE reserves than us,hell russia alone has more than all the rest of europe alone,maybe even a large ch8nk of america too?


    When i say enemies i dont mean the ppl of these nations i mean the nations and their leaders who historically or geographically will fall into the ENEMY category as soon as war starts,all it takes is for the arabs and russians to put the prices of gas and oil exported to our nations up so high we go bust and they can either become our masters which aint likely given the history of both the USA and the UK(our nations aint never ran from battle unlike other euro nations like Italy for instance) so we will be in a war against maybe russia or maybe even russia and her great ally Iran together,these two nations are as thick as thieves,they trade oil to other countries for a LOT less than they do to us for obvious reasons and yet we allow ourselves to be like junkies addicted to a nedle full of smack when it comes to fossil feuls....WE NEED NUCLEAR POWER AND WE NEED IT NOW ITS THEE ONLY QUICK WAY TO GET WEANED OF THE OIL...MAYBE AFTER THAT WE CAN GO WITH HYDRO MILLS AND ALL THAT BUT WE NEED TO ACT QUCIK AND BE DECISIVE.I got army friends and they come home from tour of duty in Helmand Province and they say that its a fuckin quagmire that we will never be able to leave cos the second we do leave is the veruy second the taliban come out their caves or come back across the surrou nding borders of nations like Pakistan... it a NO iwn situation...


    The russian army with all its might couldnt do it so why do we think we can?The british forces already tried to take over the afghan region over a hundre3d odd years ago and we failed miserably for the first time ever in taking over a nation outside of europe! Im kinda rambling but thats just me i am typing to y'all what i think AS i think it(i type pretty damn fast,lol) so sometimes i come out with stuff thats wy of topic but i still type it cos tharts what im thinking as i type,i NEVER sit and think a post through unless im actually starting a ghrow thread or strain report(apart from when i talk to my fellow mod/admin in the admin forum about GK matters of course)...anyways im digressing further,i think iv already said what i feel and am going over old ground although i do have lots more to say on the topic...


    SURELY SOME OF US CAN SEE WHATS IN STORE,WE HAVE SEEN THE HINTS FOR YEARS NOW AND NOW THINGS WE FEARE3D AND HOPED WOULD NEVER RETURN LIKE WAR AND DESEASE,FAMINE,POVERTY,BREAKDOWN IOF OUR SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT,ETC IS ALL HAPPENING BEFORE OUR VERY EYES LIKE THIS ECONOMIC MELTDOWN,ITS ALL GOING DOWN MAN,FOR YEARS IV READ BOOKS AND SHIT ABOUT THE MAYANS AND HOW THEY PREDICT(going by their calendar) THAT A CATALYSMIC EVENT WILL OCCUR IN 2012(which could be any number of things such as a natural disaster like the tsunami or katrina,etc) AND IM STARTING TO BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE STRANGE DAYS WE LIVING IN,MY GRNAD DAD SAID THERES ALWAYS A HUIGE WAR EVERY 50 YEARS AND WITH IT REGIME CHANGE AND YOU KNOW WHAT,UP TILL NOW US BRITS AND YOU AMERICANS(not forgetting my australian and canadian cousins~:icon_wink:)HAVE BEEN THE ONES DOING THE REGIME CHANGE USUALLY FOR GOOD BUT WHO'S TO SAY IT CANT HAPPEN TO US??????????


    CHINA IN 10 YEARS WILL BE THEE WORLDS LARGESWT SUPERPOWER MAKE NO BONES ABOUT IT ALONG WITH A REJUVENATED RUSSIA,BACKED IN FINCANCE BY THEM FUCKIN SAUDI'S WHO SEEM TO BACK EVERY HORSE IN THE RACE WHICH ANY GAMBLER WILL TELL YOU IS FUCKIN CRAZY UNLESS YOU GOT MORE CASH THAN SENSE....WHICH OF COURSE THEY DO:5headache: ..


    ..China alone have enough manpower to wage war on anyone and to think they actually HAVE to limit their population and families aint even allowed no more than two kids per household:eek:.... just think if China got a bit of muscle to go with its technologies its growing,they could become imperilistic ,until now they have been isoltaionsist but thats all changing.... Russia have NEVER forgiven the west for the way we MADE them come begging to us for cash when their communist ideals finally went bankrupt back in the reagan era and boy is that ex KGB guy Putin juist itching to strike back for 'mother russia' as they call russia!!!


    Ppl alreqady know from reading my political threqads that iv always suspected some kind of upcoming war or revolution but when i hear ppl say that conventional warfaere is dead and we need to adapt to urban warfare against terrorists in no uniform i laugh cos as true as that last half may be the bit about conventional warfare being over is a serious misjudgement and arrogance on our behalf cos we seem to think no one is near capable,well China is or will be very very soon and even India and Pakistan have nuke powers along with Irans blatant attemtps to enrich weapons grade plutonium,etc... can we really allow our armies to be so over used and worn out that if a nation decided to wage war on the UK and USA(and our conventional allies like australia and canada,etc) we just couldnt cope....THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A DRAFT....


    ....THATS WHEN THE FUN REALLY BEGINS COS WHO'S GONNA BE IN THE FRONT LINE:ponder:Yup you and me wheter we agree or like it or not!:angry4: I tell ya,i try not to type these kind of threads in politics cos ppl DO think your crazy but if id told y'all at the tunr of the century(Y2K) that in a years time America would suffer its worst attack since pearl harbour actually from the sky on american soil hitting the pentagon,the world trade centers and the other i dare say was destined for the whitehouse,you ALL WOULD THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY:bduh:...RIGHT???


    Well what if i eleaborated even more and told y'all that we would invade Iraq but it wouldnt be a cakewalk lkie the last time,what if told y'all that the ppl responsible were friends and family of the president aka the bin laden group whop were escorted out of america on the pre3sidents say so the day after 9/11 when for the 1sdt time in FAA history all aircraft were grounded!!!:angry7:


    Just one last thought,what if i then in the SAME post told y'all that i think there will be a global reccession even depression and america and europe will be hit the worst out of all the world to the pont where states and nations go BANKRUPT??????? Y'all would have laugghed your asses of at me for suggesting such fuckin crazy shit.... YET IT HAS AND IS STILL HAPPENING!:icon_eek:


    WE ARE WQATCHING THE BEGINNING OF THE APOCALYPSE PPL....FROM THE C0MFORT OF OUR SOAFS OR COMPUTER CHAIRS IN OUR OWN HOMES!!!!!!! THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL FOR ME.... MY MUM ON ANY GIVEN DAY HAS TWO YEARS FOOD AND WATER STORAGE AND OTHER STUFF IN CASE WE AS A FAMILY EVER HAD TO JUST UP AND LEAVE,SHE HAS ALL THIS SHIT IN HER GARAGE,ITS ALL NON PERSISHABLE ASWELL TO KEEPS FOR YEARS...HERBSPARKY DOES IT AS DO OTHERS OF YOU.....WHY??


    COS SOME OF US CAN SEE WHEN SHITS GOING DOWN IN FRONT OF OUR EYES,WE MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE ABLE TO PIN POINT THE REASON BUT USUALLY WITH THE BEFIT OF HINDSIGHT WE THINK "fuck ,why did i not see that one coming,it was obvious" BUT HINDSIGHTS A WONDERFUL THING,LMAO!!!! BUT FORESIGHT IS EVEN BETTER MY FRIENDS...LOOK TO THE PAST TO SEE WHATS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE ME GRANDAD ALWAYS USED TO TELL US ALL... HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN 88 YEARS OLD WITH NO LEGS AND ONE ARM AFTER LIVING AND SURVING AND FIGHTING THROUGH WORLD WARS,SURE HE HAD A BIT OF DEMENTIA AND STUFF BEFORE HE DIED BUT YANNO WHAT??


    IN THESE FUCKED UP CRAZY TIMES MY DYING OLD GRANDAD SEEMS TO FINALLY BE MAKING PERFECT SENSE TO ME.....Look to the past to see the future he said...INDEED! Im lookin and i dont like what i see....c'mon now surely i aint the only one here who doesnt think my nation or amwerica or europe,etc are invincible????Surely i aint the only one who sees other nations jealousies and bitterness against us and their determination to attack and wage war on us,not just beared terrorists!


    All it takes to bring down our nations is one thing ...nope not a nuke or two...simply a massive massive inflation busting price hike on oil and gas...thats all it takes and america stops moving as do we all.... what we gonna do with our apaches and submarines then?Remember we need gas/ol to create electricity so that goes out the window aswell.... we gotta start looking at the world differently,think outside the box or growroom so to speak,lol... cos if id made a post back in 2000 telling y'all what i know now EVERYONE of you would have laughed me outta the building.... so those who laugh at what i say or predict right now,give me 5 years and im willing to bet it has already begun,this IS the beginning of some crazy times for us all... i aint the guy with all the answers,i just got a 6th sense and trsut my gut thats all..... we going back to the dark ages ppl...faster than we think.Okay rant/lecture/mad delsuional thoughts OVER FOR TODAY:icon_lol::roflmao: All i know is when the shit hits the fan i wont be in it,im breaking myself away from the herd as of now and im gonna make sure like my mum has dione ,im gonna make sure when the bleak days come im at least prepared enopugh to be able to up and leave home with shelter and food storage at a minutes notice.....


    ....ok ,im taking my tin foil hat of now and putting my moderator hat back on again:roll:...


    Peace and dont say the apprentice didnt see it coming,lol:icon_lol:.Peace Out:bongin::redbong::jj:


    PS: And YES for those who think it,it is true, i am smoking some good shit as a matter of fact:icon_biggrin: Tis called White Widow,the finest money can buy:icon_wink:(still dont make me crazy though or a stoner*typing while removing tin foil hat*:lmao:)


    ....this fuckin white widow blows my mind ,i love it and cant wait till Amsterdam(high times cannibus cup 19th november) been toking it and been awake for 48 hours now,lol,im gonna go watch simon cowell on the x-factor(our american idol basically) and then get some sleep,lol,this w/widows got me burnng the candkle at BOTH ends past few days,im in the zone...


    ....the green zone:yikes::roll::icon_lol::smokin: :cool:
     
  4. TheFomorian

    TheFomorian Neo-Shaman

    I'm not sure that we'll see an all-out world war, but I wouldn't say it's totally out of the question. I think it will be a combo of skirmishes between countries, unification of governments, "homegrown terrorism"/martial law, etc.


    This is all very strange for me as I have always questioned the reality that was laid out before me. Info seemed to come to me or I came up with certain ideas. Now those things are happening.


    First in '98 I found out about codes in the Bible. Not completely clear, but it mentioned the years 2001 (9/11), 2003 (Iraq War), 2009 ("generated crisis"), and 2012 (?) as major endtime-style years. Wars in the Middle East were mentioned during this time.


    In '99 some friend of mine rented a new place and there was a book left in the house called "Nothing in This Book is True" that talked about the NWO, camps/slavery, aliens and 2012. I blew alot of it off except for the spiritual stuff (my thing at the time), but now the same shit is popping up everywhere as we get to the 2012 date.


    In the years between then and 2001, I did alot of soul-searching and real life stuff. 9/11 the towers were hit I thought "here we go" but didn't really worry about it much, focusing on the spiritual side of things because you can't sit around worrying when you have another 8-11 years of normalcy.


    2001 - recently I was all about creativity and spirituality. A few months ago I sort of came to the decision that I had learned what I needed on that end and thought I would look around to see what I was missing on the "real" side of things (big thanks to Herb on that one). FEMA camps, martial law, and NWO, OH MY! Shortly after that the whole economy thing happened.


    I was really freaked out watching ENDGAME when it got to the eugenics part: The elite trying to control populations and engineer themselves into godlike beings - using us for experimentation, etc. The storyline(s) I've been working on for the past 6 years or so have been about a giant eugenics project where the world (another planet) is entirely monitored/controlled without the knowledge of the people in an attempt to make a godlike race. At the same time, large sections are wiped out via plagues or weapons of mass destruction. Is that not odd?


    Add to that my wife having dreams her entire life of the end of the world, recently focusing on her being on the run and having too much stuff to carry while walking, roadblocks, etc. The thing is, she doesn't (didn't) know anything about this stuff when the dreams started - an has a history of prophetic dreams.


    So, yeah. What was my point? Right. I'm a bit freaked out too. Everyone thinks I'm insane (even me), but the world is starting to show that it agrees with me...
     
  5. dr.greenthum

    dr.greenthum chief stinky skunk

    personally if thur a depression imma stock up on shot guns and canning jars
     
  6. TheFomorian

    TheFomorian Neo-Shaman

    I think you kind of need to stock up on those things before the depression. :smokin:
     
  7. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Hey dont worry there will be plenty of time to go 'looting':icon_confused: ....
     
  8. nikoatnight

    nikoatnight Full Flowering

    If ya got lots of supplies ya better have a gun to protect it!
     
  9. AverageJoe

    AverageJoe papa oom mow mow

    ...and know who your real friends are.
     
  10. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    That way ya don't shoot 'em. :icon_confused:
     
  11. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    HOOoooo boy...


    Some ones been smoking to much bud for far too long. Apprentice...your thoughts, while lineal in progression, are simply an absolute worst case scenario with out much chance of coming to fruition. Think of it as a permutated equation, if X happens then of the next 10 events 3 must happen at the precise time, if those happen then the next 10 events must progress in proper order, etc...in no time you have odds in the range of thousands to one that each event will fall precisely into place to bring about crisis you are alluding to.


    A more likely scenario is that we will experience a rebirth of the cold war only with multiple players at the table instead of just Russia and the western nations. The old eastern bloc may find solace to economic woes in a more totalitarian system of old USSR dominion as has been witnessed in Russia after the economic downturn and election of Putin. Stabilty versus freedom...I may not be able to speak freely but at least I will eat mentality.


    The true wild cards are N Korea, Iran, an Islamic Pakistan being lured into a more militant form and old Soviet blocs that Russia may deem as weak and ripe for the picking. All have nuclear capabilities and could use them in an attempt io save themselves or intimidate neighbors. N. Korea may not be quite the threat it seems tho...Kim Il Jong, crazy bastard that he is, probably realizes that absent a common factor such as religion or politics with the outside world he is on his own. No extremist Islamic country will come to his rescue nor will the Chinese or Russians. If N. Korea pulls a stunt I think most of world would sit on their collective hands while the U.S. lights him up. Kind of a good riddance to bad rubbish.


    A third, most likely IMHO, wild card is that the U.S. could extend the war on Islamic extremists into to more third world countries. An emboldened Russia or Iran (and Iraq if we leave and it goes into extremist control) would obviously seek confrontation there. Similar to the way the U.S armed Afganistan during the Soviet invasion there. In these scenarios there is no telling the outcome once the local populace is educated in battle and armed. Add in a tactical nuke from Iran or an alienated Pakistan and the real trouble begins.


    Just a few non-toked thoughts.


    Be well,
     
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  12. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Sorry for the over long posts guys,lol,but i believe war is a comin'!!!


    Hey resin:passit::ebert:.... i read your post and i agree with what your saying and thats kind of the whole point in the thread and poll,i wanted to know if (cos id been awake watching online vids about a lottsa this stuff toking white widow for 48hrs awake,lol:bongin:) i was simply stoned and reading too deeply into a lot of recent things going on in the world ,like the russians getting 'active' once again in Georgia as an example and just remember in recent years the atrocities carried out by them in chechnya,ukraine(poising their president in the elections) and other stuff like the fact they have defaulted on their payments to the IMF/World Bank during times like this when the IMF is down to its last 250billion dollars:eek:,its not like the days when the soviet communist regime fell due to them being practically bankrupt,they now are thee biggest exporter of oil/gas in europe and many other parts of the world,they produce more than the UK and USA alone and Putin still runs that shoiw and hes ex top KGB with a bitter revenge agenda against the free western democracies,they are in bed with Iran who along with North Korea i agree are thee two biggest threats along with russia aswell in this present day and age.


    Your right resin i was wasted:suave: but resading back i still believe that many or much of what i said i forsee could easily happen,just lok at that guy in new york who is called Yuri something or other,he said years ago that this economic crisis was gonna hit america and the world but he was laughed outta town,as einstein says,ideas that sound absurd at first usually are the only ones that come to fruition kinda thing...


    I dont say im the guy that knows it all,lol,im just a stoner with an opinion like the next guy but ii just cant help but feel that we are at a pivotal moment in this new century,a lot has went down already but look at the last centruy,these things do tend to repeat the cycle,as a wise man once told me,look to the oast to see the future:icon_wink:


    But one thing i gotta say to you RESIN is that i can get carried away when im typing cos i dont sit and think out my posts i just read the thread or start one if i have an opinion or question i have niggling away at me and seek other opinions,i do it here in the UK with mates but i love getting the global perspective here on growkind from fellow tokers/cultivators like myself and you,etc.:icon_thumbleft:


    :stop: ALWAYS REMEMBER,LOL,WHEN I POST IM JUST TYPING LIKE 40 WORDS A MINUTE AND THATS WHY I ALWAYS HAVE SO MANY TYPO ERRORS ,LOL,COS I JUST TYPE MY THOUGHTS AS THEY OCCUR AND THATS USUALLY A LOT IN A SHORT SPACE OF TIME SO MY WORN OUT FINGERS TAKE ANOTHER BATTERING YET AGAIN AS I TYPE MY THOIUGHJTS OUT LOUHD S THEY HAPPEN:roll:....thats why im known as the crazy long post guy:lmao:...who occasionaly rants about conspiracies then i take my tin foil hat of and exhale:jj:...Dont think that i think ALL of what i said is gonna come true...:eusa_shifty::icon_confused: :)


    Im just thinking out loud as usual and i TRULY believe that one or even more of my thougths could come true and i entirely agree with you on your thoughts aswell and recognise the danger from N/Korea and Iran and the powderkeg that is the midel east.... but i will never rule out the russians joining with Iran or their comrades the Chinese in the future to become a new world order of superpowers,they got the huge huge populations and man power aswell as th natural resources,money and industry aswell as technology and tactical know how to cause a 3rd world war easily IMHO and i dont trust Putin in any shape or form,russia is on the move make no mistake and their intent on taking back their annexed states aswell as the ukraine and maybe even more west to ex eastern block nations which would mean that NATO would HAVE to get involved which means a euro force along with canada and america and if that did happen then i wouldnt rule out chine or iran being in their coalition meantime Iraq abnd Afghansitan are in chaos...


    I mean obviously these like you say RSIN are just a bunch of worst case scenarios but in all respect that was my intention,to post a bunch of my possible theories and gut feelings based on events since the year 2k and the new century/millenium and looking at things that occured in the last centruy and millenium at the start,etc...


    I just cant help but feel that this economic thing is just part of a bigger picture and i reckon the worst of it is still on the horizon heading our way,when nations go bust bad shit happens... not to mention im waiting to see who wins the presidential election cos i wanna knopwif america is gonna have a sensible foreign policy or revert to isolationist policie which would be a disaster for the world cos the world needs america to be involved period and we all know that... a lot of Americans are soooo disillusioned with the election they would rather not vote on ignore or give up on the democratic process and i could also see another civil war in america ....whats the quote from the constitution again?..."The tree of Liberty has at times to be replenished by the blood of patriots and tyrants".... or something like that,lol,im quoting that of the top of my head i might have worded it wrong but its a true statement from a wise man.


    Cheers for participating in my litle:eusa_whistle: posts in this thread and the poll on some of my thoughts,its exactly why i started the poll cos i wanted to know the general consensus,besides seeing sooo many GKers will be opting NOT to vote due to knowing BOTH candidates are just different sides of the same coin and the elections get rigged,etc then i thought id give them all a chnce to vote on a topic that counts,lol,instead of all the bullshit we are blasted with from mainstream media 24/7 with hidden or blatantly openm agendas,lol:roll:.Good reply man,cheers:ebert::jj:


    PS: When i do a post THAT long im always "in the zone" and wasted outta my mind,lol,i aint toked real deal white widow for soooo long it took me into my shamenistic/prophetic zone!:tvlaugh::roflmao:
     
  13. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Aaaaw AP...


    Yer to kind in your words. Thanks for the karma.


    When I start getting disillusioned I take a good pull of a nice sativa and remember that I have lots of family in the western plains states.


    Lots of land, lots of guns (and they all know how to use them). Most of my cousins are militia waiting to happen :qleft5: If it all goes to hell we can eat the crops & butcher the cattle. Lots of oil and coal there and new wind turbines...plus North Dakota has one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world and its own air force base. Come get us assholes!
     
  14. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    The sign we have waited for...


    i saw on the news other day that all the playstations have been hit with the millenium bug.... a decade later.If this isnt the sign we have been awaiting to confrim the myan predictions of huge cataclysms then i dont know what is:icon_biggrin:
     
  15. blackprince11

    blackprince11 Prince of the Hindu Kush

    Damn!!! I go away for a while and come back and TAs writing an online Apoclipse bible and shit! Just kidding!!! I voted for sporadic regional wars. I think that there are too many built in mechanisms in place since WWII for the world wide war that the 'cold war hawks' were preparing for, but since smaller countries getting the technology and or the buying power to get their hands on nukes is inevedable, these regional conflicts will be just as deadly and destructive if not much more so since short range tactical nukes are already floating around out there.


    I mean, let's get real America. How long do you really think this cat and mouse game of containment will continue? We can't keep 3/4 of the rest of the world in the dark ages so that they can't produce nukes like us and our allies indefinately! Hell, that scenario I just stated is probobly just the type of thing that will spark off one or more of the regional conflicts that I talked about above.
     
  16. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    I dont think it will continue much longer.... cos i envisage a future one world govt in some form more visible than it is at the moment.When this happens or in the process is where i can see a world war,not so much nation against nation,more people versus power,us against them scenario where the slave pyramid builders will rebel against the task masters and pharoahs.Just my:2c:


    I think the recent revelations with the sony playstation will have far reaching effects,lol,all them kids that lost their reciepts will be without a console and maybe they will go fight wars and role play in the real world,lol.Years from now we will view the playstaion crisis as a pivotal moment in life:smoke2:.... or maybe its just me thats gonna view it that way:roll: I am,of course... just fuckin around.Peace:potleaf:
     
  17. blackprince11

    blackprince11 Prince of the Hindu Kush

    Lol

    Yeah, first they canceled 'Friends' and then PS3/11 happened! Pivotal turning-points in human history. The little-guy has had just about enough!:angry4: :angry9: :angry5: :box:
     
  18. blackprince11

    blackprince11 Prince of the Hindu Kush

    No, but seriously the one world govt. IS comming but the holocost that is predicted in it's wake MAY not happen. Unless the super rich start building terminators or somthing they're gonna need a whole lot of us regular people to really reap the benifits of this planets resources. Their money means nothing if they're the only ones left. Their plan only works if there continues to be huge masses of people who still believe that they need what they have in abundance to live: money!


    What's more likely is a world police state with the World Court and IMF regulating the population, Interpol as its investigative and intelligence gathering branch, and the UN as its enforcement branch; along with the period of warfare that will probobly ensue as the international banking elete use the above mentioned organizations to assume military domination on a global scale.


    The resistance that arises will have an uphill battle against the masses of "comfortable" people and the just plain scared part of the population. Examples will need to be made!
     
  19. rangers420

    rangers420 The past cannot be cured

    you must be kidding

     
  20. blackprince11

    blackprince11 Prince of the Hindu Kush

    Well, R420 I didn't say that they haven't been busy, especially since the turn of the millinium. So, what you're saying is that they are slowly siphoning-off the world population? I can buy that. I was just addressing the idea that the global "end game" for the super rich isn't necessarily a world wide genocide that is to take place in one fatal swoop (which is what I hear alot of lately), unless they have like a minimum of a billion terminators or machines of some kind to take the place of the workforce.
     

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