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Discussion in 'Smokers Lounge' started by HazeNHydro420, Sep 28, 2006.

  1. Mermaid

    Mermaid ~Sea Of Green~

    Lmao

    ROFLMAO!! Now now "Brother WA"...I thought you were gonna give the GK sermon this Sunday...hahha I will pass the bong, wine & beer in a nice goblet and place a dorito chip on everyone's toungue for communion...sound good?? :angel8: :laughing5:


    For me the soul is this ~~ our inner energy that help's us to connect with individual's on a higher level where we can create bond's with our family, frds and loved one's or even a stranger we meet due to the chemistry clicking and all the energy you feel frm them by interacting. You can see a person's soul when you stare really hard into their eye's For example.. just look into the eye's of a small child. You will see a "sparkle" and how loving, accepting, curious and honest they are with eveyone and everything that surround's them. If they feel danger it shows as well.....they can sense more then an adult at time's as they are far more in tune to the world. I think we all walk around in a shell of the REAL beauty that lies within us. It is only ugly when a person has NO soul ...they are cold and bitter to life or just so selfish and it show's on the outside no matter how good looking they are>> they are no longer bright and lose that shimmery twinkle that will draw people to them. Ok getting deep here and stoner rambling's...hopefully you understand what I mean.


    Anywhos...that is why religion mean's nada to me. Most of these "holy roller's are the most prejudice and mean people who walk this earth. They go to church every week and act all sweet or innocent then turn around and hurt people with their remark's or action's>>hypocrite's I say. Not all but most or at least that has been my experience. I do believe their is a higher being>>more of a energy in a sense that is magnetic but naaaaww I have a hard time believing all that mumbo jumbo of religion. I think as long as you believe in something or someone....and think positive then good things will come to those who are patient. I respect those who do believe as long as they do not force it on me or other's. I sure as don't believe when our President says "God talks to him" .....if that were true then when "Katrina" hit the south>>why didn't his "god" tell him to go help those poor people even if their Governor didn't call for help??? Just my 2 cent's and only my opinion.


    Peace~Jersey :animbong:
     
  2. trillions of atoms

    trillions of atoms Latae Sententiae Excommunication

    Quote:


    Originally Posted by HazeNHydro420


    Nothing anyone could say to me could EVER change my mind


    then why you on a quest to change ours? thats the problem with religous people, they act like your crazy not to believe, then bible beat you into submission. remember your the one who started this and said 'SEE this is proof god exists!'.


    "Plus it's kinda funny how the majority of the things that "science" has said goes right along with the bible. They said life started around the middle east, around Iraq, and so does the bible."


    no, science says life started in africa.


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    "But like I said, I WAS ONLY SHARING MY OPINION AND MY BELIEFS"


    and what are we doing?


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    "Excuse me for not knowing the EXACT name of every scientist and the exact name of the satelitte."


    well you don't just come in an arguement without facts, otherwise it is pure heresay. and name and dates and places don't exactly qualify as the truth behind a story.


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    "It's obvious I'm not a bible thumbing jesus freak, but you DONT HAVE TO BE to believe. "


    Um, yes, you do have to be one to TRULY believe, otherwise you would be smart enough to know better than to believe.


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    "Seems you just took it into your own hands to try to tell someone what they want to believe isn't real. Which is pretty fucked up. Kinda like being racist in a sense."


    lol, your the one that stated, 'see god does exist'. you told that story to show us why you believe and to want us to believe the story too, otherwise you wouldn't be pissed and argueing. why would you post such a controversial subject and not expect it to be debated? use common sense.


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    "Have you ever seen a billion dollars? Probably not. but does that mean it's not real? Is it just a figment of our imaginations and people have just made others believe that there really is such a thing when there really may not be? Weird example maybe, but still about the same."


    overused, and not even close, you don't realize the ignorance of what you are saying. I know there is a million dollars because I hold money everyday. I see 1 dollar bills, but maybe not a million of them at once. but the dollar bills exists, except to make a million dollars, you'd need a large number of them. there is billions of people on this planet, if I have 1000's every month from work, then surely each of those people have atleast a dollar, thats more than a million, thats billions, if you took one dollar from everyone, and put it together.you can prove the existence of a million dollars just by that with ease if you can get everyone to contribute. or you can go to a museum display in washington D.C. that has a 1 million dollar bill on display. so yes, you CAN see a million dollars. so it does exist. however, although I may not see a million dollars all at once, I do see parts of the total sum, BUT I do not see parts of the total sum of god, nor do I see god at all. To have things exist, there has to be physical presence, mass, volume...for the most part. It has to be detectable. and if it is not detectable by the human eye, even if it is in front of you, then some technological device should be able to pick it up, since we can detect everything on this planet with devices.


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    "If not for God looking over me, I guarantee I wouldn't have made it thru several occasions. "


    you are soo co-dependent on god. are you on other things too in life? like you still live with your parents? follow your girlfriends like a puppy dog? tag-along even when your not wanted?


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    "Anyways, it was just something I heard I don't remember the shit perfectly. Sunday I'll ask about it and ask the guy the bible verses and all that good shit if you really want me to."


    if it was such an important part of your proof of god, then why forget it soo readily? why? just something you heard eh? how many parts of the story can't you remember correctly? how many other religous stories have you forget parts to, only to fill in the blanks yourself over time? I mean really, don't speak unless you know exactly the details of what you are talking about, otherwise it is just useless unconfirmed heresay.


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    "Like when something insane happens and you get that tingle feeling. I think thats God working in each of our bodies. Cold chills, thats another sign I see."


    LMAO, are you serious?


    thats your nervous system man, when it gets hyped up, you get that, when you get cold or you get scared you get that, any extremes can give you that.


    i think your bipolar-ness has something to do with that too. bi-polar can affect your nerves, and also bi-polar people are prone to believing untrue concepts of reality. and putting their own in the place of how actual reality is. it is true, look it up if you don't believe me.


    A BELIEF IS NOT NECESSARILY FACT, IT IS JUST AN IDEA, A THOUGHT, NOTHING MORE. IT HAS NO SUBSTANCE OR MASS.""


    now-


    WOW.....


    literally. man im getting that TINGLY feeling!


    i cant agree with you more :D beside all the bs drama before-


    wow dood....i have an ultimate respect for your opinion now...thank you for that post :D


    you made my job EASIER! and we LOVE convienence :love4: :love4:
     
  3. trillions of atoms

    trillions of atoms Latae Sententiae Excommunication

    Originally Posted by wawona


    ..............never mind. i just don't have the energy to type my true feelings on MY OPINION on the ridiculousness of god and religion.


    :cheers: my brother!!! :animbong:
     
  4. trillions of atoms

    trillions of atoms Latae Sententiae Excommunication

    also what do you guys define as your "soul"?


    I define the soul as the energy it takes to animate the body...much like batteries in a flashlight or a toy. No energy.....it no go.


    interesting point of view....i will deffinately take note bro!


    niice :D
     
  5. HazeNHydro420

    HazeNHydro420 Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    lol


    :eusa_dance:


    PeAcE
     
  6. Mr Douglas

    Mr Douglas still stoned again still

    Haze, m'bro.........it's all good. No one is condemning you for your religious faith. :angel8: Everyone has their own beliefs, you seem passionate with yours, so stick with it, and stand tall!


    :)
     
  7. george roberts

    george roberts SocialistRepublkOfGrowknd

    What up Haze!!!Don't listen to the haters Bro. The Athiests out there still require faith to believe or not believe as it is. They like to brandish thier bigotry under the cloak of superior intelligence. Anybody that believes in God is crazy. Yeah its really easy to dis those you consider stupid. Thanks for sharing the story. I enjoyed it. See my sig for further opinion. Peace. :punk:
     
  8. plastik

    plastik Tomato Farmer

    "The Athiests out there still require faith to believe or not believe as it is."


    if we believed everything as it is told to us, we'd be in iraq fighting a war right now for no good reason. oh wait.....WE ARE! Faith is taking a chance on something that might work, not on non-existent things. you believe in unicorns? for example, say I am doing a stunt, I have FAITH that I will make it across the jump, but I do not know yet until I do it. You do not realize how selfish and greedy you people are, always wishing for good things to come to you, always praying this or that will happen, whether it be good or bad. It is all desires you are fullfilling, and that is immoral by your own gods words. And it is often odd how christians say 'you are going to hell!' in a smug way, like they are enjoying the fact that they believe you are going to hell, almost as if they like hell, since it will be assured to punish 'all who oppose them'. and believe it or not, most church staff are making more money in one month than you could dream of, and it all doesnt go back into the church. now I suppose your thinking 'not here!'. maybe not, but it happens alot everywhere. you are quick to condemn unbelievers, yet you don't condemn the people who pretend to believe just to rip you off. your churches hide facts that disprove god, your churches protect pedophiles, your churches condemn all pleasure man has created and enjoyed since our beginning. There are soo many people stuck in dead end lives because of their religon.


    But you know what, to us unbelievers, you are to us, what animals are to humans. unaware. and that is why you feel inferior, and try to make it out like we are superior. I do have FAITH. I have faith in REALITY. I have faith in LIFE. you are just too blind to see that. religon is a veil over your eyes, and a crutch for the weak minded to feel needlessly stronger.


    "They like to brandish thier bigotry under the cloak of superior intelligence."


    weird, how do you brandish the biggotry if it is under a cloak? wouldn't that in fact NOT BE brandishing at all?!


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    "Anybody that believes in God is crazy."


    thanks for pointing that out.


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    "Yeah its really easy to dis those you consider stupid"


    well, sometimes people are soo stupid, that they are too stupid to realize it. thats when you gotta remind them 'hey, your stupid!'. but then your soo stupid, that you don't even realize it still.
     
  9. trillions of atoms

    trillions of atoms Latae Sententiae Excommunication

    ^^ couldnt have said it better!!!


    and :lmao: at the narrow-mindedness sig...... "if you only knew how real this life really gets"-atmosphere.
     
  10. Mermaid

    Mermaid ~Sea Of Green~

    Well said!!


    Plastic...well said my frd!! I just believe in ME and yah a positive energy or force but hey that is my choice. I do also think that when one thinks negative....neg things start to happen. When your happy and feel positive then things seem to work out in most case's. I just do not buy this whole heaven/hell crap....if there is a hell then we are living in it. Look at the war and all the things that happen here on earth.....so nawwwww not buying it. ;)


    I do how ever respect the opinion and belief's of other people AND expect them to respect me in return. :) It goes both ways yanno. ;)


    Haze ...no worries my frd! I think we are ALL entitled to our opinion's and what we as individual's believe in. Your cool in my book!! :)


    Peace~Jersey :animbong:
     
  11. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    I'm sorry but animals ARE aware. It's our arrogant thinking that places us above the animal realm, but in fact...the animals live in true harmony with nature. Unaware? When that bluejay is squawking his head off at my cat....he's WELL aware. When my dogs see that I am down and out at times....VERY aware. When that deer crossed the road in front of me....VEEEEEEERY aware! :wink:


    LOL...'god' this is fun. :biggrin:
     
  12. trillions of atoms

    trillions of atoms Latae Sententiae Excommunication

    herb what hes getting at is animals arnt aware of what life and death means...- stress through living life etc...they know when there hungry but they dont know what it means to starve "to death".they might feel pain but they dont know the true feeling of the suffering from that pain.....they just feel the bad electrial impulses and they know its not right so they try and avoid that feeling if it doesnt appeal to them. they know from instinct to be "aware" but not what it means to exist. they dont have a feeling of "self". they might have expressions through there senses but no "emotions".


    i think what hes getting at- they are unaware of THE TRUTH.:evil4:
     
  13. chopstick

    chopstick Chilled out

    I haven't read that much since I was in school, and I didn't even read every post.


    It all sounds interesting really, but I couldn't honestly say I believe in any of it. I have enough to deal with in general to give a shit about abstract ideas, religeon, or science proven theories, unless they have an immidiate impact on my existance. I suppose if you didn't have a care in the world, you would have plenty of time to ponder the meaning of life, now wouldn't that be nice.


    I for one am too busy living to worry whether 24hrs are indeed missing... unless they took my wallet when they disapeared!
     
  14. HappyHappyHighGuy

    HappyHappyHighGuy dreamer and misfit

    This kind of deep pondering shit gives me a headache, in the same way as a math problem that starts with "a train left chicago at 2:37 PM traveling 70mph during a hurricane with FEMA in charge..." my mind just shuts down at that point:new_microwave:
     
  15. HappyHappyHighGuy

    HappyHappyHighGuy dreamer and misfit

    The meaning of life is to live every day as if it was your last, in other words, to live.
     
  16. snickelfritz

    snickelfritz Weed College Hall Monitor

    I must disagree.


    I am an Atheist. I do not believe in a god, devil, heaven, hell or any of that. It is not a "negative belief" as you put it... It is merely a lack of belief in something that can't be proven.



    However... I do respect the beliefs of others. (Except the fundamentalist kooks that want to harm others.) I simply choose to live my life without religion or belief in a god entity.



    Unlike some that claim to be Atheist... I have no problems with prayer in a school, the 10 commandments in a courthouse, "In God we Trust" on our money, a nativity scene in a public place, etc... And, I do call Christmas, Christmas. Not because of any belief in religion, but because that is what it is... Christmas.



    I am also sick & tired of other so-called Atheists trying to impose their beliefs on others through the courts using that separation of church & state bullshit.



    IMO, the separation of church & state was merely intended to prevent a theocracy from forming in America. You must remember that our founding fathers, the ones who wrote the constitution, had lived with religious oppression / persecution from the Church of England. The church was a very powerful entity... In a time when religion itself was oppressive and draconian in nature. (Much like Islam today)



    It wasn't really about worshiping a god... It was all about power. Keeping the population under control through fear and intimidation.



    Thus began the protestant movement. A protest against the C of E. while keeping the basic principles of their religious beliefs, or core values alive.



    Unfortunately, today... some people... and some courts just don't get it. Especially in today's "politically correct" society. The minority continues to try and control the majority through litigation.



    Sooo, all that being said... MY philosophy as an Atheist is...Live your life the way you want to live it... Worship who or what you want to worship. As long as it does no harm to anyone else...



    Oh, and to all you Jehova's Witnesses out there... Stop knocking on my damned door. :laughing5: Take my NO answer & leave me alone.



    Peace



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  17. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    Sorry Trill...I have seen proof to the contrary. There are plenty of stories where animals have rescued their owners from fire and/or certain death. This is clear evidence that they are 'aware' of life and death. Science is just now discovering that the animal world has a very intricate dialog and communication with one another. Just because WE don't understand animals doesn't mean they don't think and feel as we do. As I said...arrogant thinking is what leads humankind to think they are superior. I laugh at that thought. We are a bunch of fuckups...I often wonder what animals think of US. They are now learning that dolphins may be MORE intelligent than humans! At the moment all we can base inteligence on is our own way of thinking. The day a man can get inside the head of an animal to truely know what it's thinking I'll start believing they are less than we are. Until then I don't buy it.:laughing5:
     
  18. plastik

    plastik Tomato Farmer

    animals are nowhere near the awareness of humans. by all rights, humans are just another animal. they do think and feel. but beyond that, they haven't much complex thought beyond instinct.


    "I have no problems with prayer in a school, the 10 commandments in a courthouse, "In God we Trust" on our money, a nativity scene in a public place, etc... And, I do call Christmas, Christmas. Not because of any belief in religion, but because that is what it is... Christmas.


    I am also sick & tired of other so-called Atheists trying to impose their beliefs on others through the courts using that separation of church & state bullshit."


    ok, so you would like christian (or other religous) morals practiced by our government, and morals turned into laws, of which everyone whom lives in this country, will have to follow, regardless of their religon? that is silly. so adultry will impose a life sentence if there was no seperation of church and state. religon is the will of god. state is the will of the people. you see the conflict? since people are said to be inferior to 'god' then how could they over ride gods word if religon and state were meshed? they simply couldn't. to religous people gods word is final. and there are soo many interpretations, it would be ridiculous to try and make a judgement on someone. IT IS A PROBLEM with having religous writings and beliefs on and in state buildings. the number one problem..there are people of no religon or a completely seperate religon that probably paid taxes for that building to be built. and who pays for the commandment signs,etc? tax payers! why should I PAY for your religous words to be posted around public buildings when it isn't something I believe in? should I just take the hit? what then? State and Church buildings combined? yes it is a free country for your religous freedom, BUT that freedom also allows you to be free of religon also. how can you be free of religon if the 10 commandments are everywhere you look? there is still capital punishment, and that isn't going to be shutdown. it is against religon to kill, yet the state executes prisoners. how can the two coexist together like that? they can't.


    "Atheists trying to impose their beliefs on others through the courts using that separation of church & state bullshit"


    you couldn't be more...WRONG. athiests try to KEEP others from imposing their beliefs on EVERYONE. would you like it if you saw 'don't believe in god' or 'god is wrong' signs on state buildings? someone will be. you can't make both sides happy all at the same time. so the only logical course of action is to deny BOTH parties. ask yourself this, how will religous comandments on a state building make things better for everyone? they won't. will religous commandments on a state building make things worse for everyone? and the answer is yes. not to mention if you get one religon up there, you would have to put them all! otherwise that would not be fair to everyone else. that would say to the people 'the government backs this religon, and this religon only.' bottom line, you can have laws and morals and justice, WITHOUT religon.
     
  19. Mermaid

    Mermaid ~Sea Of Green~

    many good points


    First off I have to agree that animals are MORE aware then some may think....and how do you know they are "unaware" or know?? I know when I had surgery.....my yellow lab who usually ALWAYS jumps up to great me was very gentle and protective of me while I was healing. Animals seem to be sensitive to many thing's and I just think people do not give them much credit where due. My pet's know when I am sad....they seem to be more sensitive then even human's and eager to please. On another note......most mother's in the animal world are far more nurturing and seem to take care of thier young>>>can we say that about human's?? Look at all the babie's who are not wanted.....just an observation. Maybe they are not like human's but to say they do think or feel is silly. Think about it....instinct is second nature and maybe human's should follow thier lead. Seems to me they are flexiable and can adapt to most situation's ....complex can mean many things depending on what you are referring to. Complex can mean >>>a pain in the ass too! LOL On a serious note...I really think human's do not know as much as they would like to know about animal's due to the communication or lack of. Watch Animal Planet...you will see that that they are very smart. Take the giant squid for example>>>intelligent and funny how they KNOW to hide so dman well it is hard to have a squid sighting. Lots of information or should I say the "lack of" on wild life. We just like to THINK we are above them and feel more. I just think we are reserved where yes they follow thier instinct's and where as we do not most of the time. One more thing...as far as them being ill or dying....why do you think they KNOW to go off to be alone?? They KNOW they are suffering....so tell me how is it they are NOT aware?? Of course they are.... ;) Ohhh and btw...did you know that the "rat" has like 94% of our genetic makeup>>>they are smart mofo's too. :)


    Plastic....good points on the religion and being all over state building's and so on. I do not mind but I see your point. I think and believe with all my heart that whatever make's a person happy and positive is a good thing which is why I respect other's belief's. As long as they do not preach to me and try to push thier religious belief's on my children and I....it is all good. What it boils down to is mutual respect. ;)


    Peace~Jersey
     
  20. snickelfritz

    snickelfritz Weed College Hall Monitor

    Bingo, Jersey!


    Plastik... If you want to quote me, please get it right, and in the proper context...


    Perhaps you misunderstood the part where I said "I AM AN ATHEIST."


    All I see are certain people that claim to be Atheists, filing lawsuits over what I consider to be frivolous shit, wasting more of OUR TAX DOLLARS and the courts time... Seeking their 15 minutes of fame on the news channels, papers & blogs...


    Unlike some people, I could give 2 shits whether or not the commandments or a nativity scene is on public property... Those things are meaningless to me... I am not so "thin skinned" that I can't tolerate other people's beliefs. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles and ideologies, so now... 200+ years later... does that make the U.S. Constitution "unconstitutional" simply because it contains the word "God" in it? I don't think so...


    But, just because I do not personally believe in such things does not mean that I want to userp other people's rights to enjoy those things. That was my point on the matter. I can't speak for other Atheists... I can only share in my personal beliefs... or lack thereof.


    In a way, I feel that I am more tolerant of religion than most people of religion. Perhaps (certain) people of religion should learn to practice what they preach. Instead of being hypocritical about everything, and everyone else. The world might actually become a better place.
     

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