Looking for any help anyone is willing to give. Just really frustrated. This is what happens to me EVERY FUCKING TIME!! Always the same exact thing. Plants look great ~ grow fine through veg and then ALWAYS right on time Transition week - week 3 flowering this happens... First starts as little rusty colored spots which show up usually on the large (older) fan leaves first, this then turns to a rapid yellowing/dying of the bottom leaves (the entire leaf). The majority of the leaves will also get these patches of grey or dark deadness before finally curling up and dying. I have noticed MOST of the time, although not always, purple coloring on the leaf stems and the stems seem noodly and limp. As far as setup goes that's hard to say as honestly I have f'ing tried everything at this point. For the most part...Fox Farms ~ Light Warrior - Ocean Forest - Perlite (25%, 50%, 25%)Happy Frog Peace of Mind 5-5-5Worm CastingspH water always 5.8 - 7.0 and I do add throughout but not w/every watering Blackstrap, Neptune Harvest, Maxicrop Strain is Pandora Auto (Paradise Seeds)400w sytemtemps 70-80 throughouthumidity average 35%GK, Got any OG's left out there that is willing to help? /monthly_2011_03/IMG00121-20110319-1302.jpg.5025a642ecb24ed2d16ec6bb729f1aef.jpg /monthly_2011_03/IMG00119-20110319-1302.jpg.ab07c19f1502122ad762ae5838c83b67.jpg /monthly_2011_03/IMG00118-20110319-1302.jpg.c21451a4d9bc53800d64c0e0a2dabffa.jpg /monthly_2011_03/IMG00120-20110319-1302.jpg.789c70bbe27f36126275b047382b4540.jpg
from the pics number 4 looks like a phos def! thats why I dont like soil things happen slowly as far as def. By the time it catches up with the plants you are ready to plant. Hempy or Hydro deficiencys are rapid to show. In the soil thats probably why you are experienceing the def later in the growth state but it takes a while to catch up with the plant. Brown spots are cal def. I never had anything but problems until I went gh on the nutes. If you are having this happen on every grow try changeing over flush the plants (add a little mg to the flush) and light feed them and see if they improve. I dont know if your water is hard but if it is the gh will help as you can use the hard water micro which deals with bad water. They wont need anything else. Teamster6
I still say some wrong with the ph in soil I'm pretty sure that the ph of your soil cause a nutrient lockout Something in a system wrong with a ph I'm sure
i really like this chart... :flyy: 5.8 - 7 for your waterings is quite a stretch of the range...why and how often do you swing it?? what are you using for ph adjustment?
pH... Like mt.king said the pH is fucked. Prob has been the whole time and like Teamster6 said it's showing up now. I had not fed these plants at all besides the Happy Frog and other organic stuff so pH Up or Down was not possible to adjust the water. Was going for an organic - microlife friendly thing... Did not work I guess. :mashed: I water with distilled and anyone saying distilled has a "neutral" pH is wrong. Distilled has always tested between a 5.5-5.9 for me. So Green Goblin to answer your question: I mix reg Poland Spring bottled water or blackstrap Molasses with the distilled to try to get it in that range. Tested my runoff after posting this thread and it went in a 6.6 came out a 6.2 so you were all right. pH has to be like a 5.7 -5.8 and all hell is breaking loose Ca ~ P ~ Mg are probably all locked up. I have always wanted to try a Hempy bucket or Hydro but never wanted to waste my time or expensive seeds not having any idea what I am doing. Would seem soil has not gone much better for me. I have a small space and I can only grow 1 MAYBE 2 small plants at a time so failure hurts me long time. Thank you guys for taking the time to help me.
Blitz- Your going about it funky for an organic soil grow. Ditch the distilled water and either get a good faucet filter (I use PUR 3 stage) or use RO from the grocer. If you have a PH pen add your nutrients then adjust PH, If you are using a liquid test kit test kit adjust the water ph to 6.5-6-8 range then add your nutrients. Molasses is not a decent agent for PHing your H2O. Vinegar and baking soda are the two ph tools for an organic kitchen cupboard supply. If you want to keep an organic garden drop me a PM.
wwboy unless you have really fucked up tap water you can get away without a filter on a good soil grow.....those tiny amounts of minerals are all good.....just P.H. your shit right......check the run off P.H. and perhaps lower the stuff yer tossing in to make up the diff......
Soil additives I have never attempted a pure organic grow, so this may not be relevant. Do you add any dolomite lime to your soil before planting? I don't know if that is a no-no with organic growing. Also I don't know your level of expertise and experience, so don't take any things that seem common sense to you as an insult, just thought I would add my 2cents. The lime really helps stabilize the PH (a little on the high side), but also helps with cal and mag availability. Even the expensive 'all inclusive' mixes sometimes still need a little extra to last the long haul in soil, and it is a pain to add after a few weeks of veg. with a big root system. Because you are doing an organic grow you probably use straight perlite, but a lot of perlite is treated with fertilizers that could throw off feeding routines. I like soil because of the buffering capability, but it still takes a long time to see and then to treat the problem. Still, I think it is better to wait a few extra days or a week or so to get a decent finished product. Really good resource for you in the future if you don't already have it is a book called 'Marijuana Garden Saver' by J.C. Stitch. - It has pics and descriptions of all types of problems with chemical and organic solutions. Helped me out a LOT. Good Luck!
twofish - thanks for your words... To say the least the pooch has been screwed. Damn shame because this was my 1st Auto strain and they were really shaping up to be lovely. I would recommend Pandora all day. They looked fantastic up until this happened. Flushed the shit out of them and got my runoff a 6.8 fed them with some Fox Farms TG. Today they look bloody terrible. :flyy: Organic growing the real way using micro life to feed your plants is not easy. I think for someone like me it's soil and chem ferts or maybe I should climb the evolutionary tree to the hempy bucket branch or something.
