hi i'm new and need a littel help.

Discussion in 'Beginner Lounge' started by jaketwonine, Apr 19, 2006.

  1. jaketwonine

    jaketwonine Germinated

    Ok i'm new here,so hi. i'm have read so growing guides so i know a littel all ready. I'm plan on an growing room 3ft 7in tall, 1ft 4in wide, 1ft 7in long. i whould like to know what the best size light and fan. i'm thinking about a PC fan, how wolud you hook the fan up. i'm thinking i will have three PC fans two on the top and one in the box right above the pots. and for intake vants 2-4 pvc pipes in the bottom.the right angel ones. also how many plants could i have in there. (sorry if i'm repeating one.) the reason it going to be so small is because i can't. i may have a area close off for colonies. Is it ok if i use a 2 liter cola bottle as a pot. please help me.
     
  2. holdmeclosrtonydanza

    holdmeclosrtonydanza A Fat Sticky Bud

    Let me be the first to welcome you to GrowKind and say, "What?".
    I'd recommend compact fluorescents or a 250w HPS. Definitely recommend the HPS for flowering at least.

    I read this somewhere here before and it will work:


    If you have any 12v ac adaptor (cell phone chargers will work), you can wire it directly into your adaptor and plug her in.

    Sounds good.
    Sounds like you'll be lucky to get two plants in that space.
    Again... What?
    What are colonies? If you're referring to the 13 original states, good luck with that one.
    Yes, as long as you poke holes in the bottom for proper drainage. I assume you've cut the top off as well?
    I'm not sure if I can.
     
  3. jaketwonine

    jaketwonine Germinated

    sorry about all the spell mistakes. HPS will they work for veg. stage. what do you mean a cellpone charger, colud anyone help me with this. i would like two get it started a little after may ends just want to make it ok for growing.


    i mean Cloning plants. can anyone tell me how to get the male's pollen.
     
  4. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    He means like the kind you plug in your wall i believe, cut off the connector end for the phone and hard wire it to the fan and just plug it in and wa la. i guess easier said than done though! as for the light man i would recomend checking ebay for the light i bought another HPS off some company from indiana. they still had a bunch for sell to and for $90 buy it now with $20 shipping, and that for a 400W system with 1-yr warranty. the also had 250W system but they are only like $5 cheaper! I've tried using fluros and you just have to get a bunch of them to get the job done right and its just smart to go with the HPS since you will be getting a much greater lumens/watt ratio then you will with the flouros. HPS much much better at least for what i've seen. I used 3 4' 80watt fixtures(approx. 18,ooo lumens), 5 42 watt compact fluoros(probably 15,ooo lumens) those add up to 450 watts of power and cost me about $85 or so. Then the 400W HPS(54,000 lumens) and cost me about $20 bucks more, i would have spent more and wasted more electricity just to get the lumen output from the flouros. I guess i can just use the flouros for cloning and veg.
     
  5. holdmeclosrtonydanza

    holdmeclosrtonydanza A Fat Sticky Bud

    Wiring that fan to a cellphone charger is easy. white to white, black to black... use wire nuts to connect them.


    400 watts will generate way too much heat for your grow space. You've only got 1.5' x 1.5' roughly. 400w is an overkill for that tiny space. 250w or smaller. You'll cook your plants.


    Some people (not me) claim that HPS will stretch your plants during vegetative growth. But everything I've grown and everything I've read says that the stretching is very minimal. You could get a 250w> metal halide as an alternative. Great for vegging, and some folks say better than HPS during flowering. I'm going to test that theory soon.
     
  6. Jibberish_Man

    Jibberish_Man Begun Flowering

    From what i know about electronics, you may not want to use a cell phone charger. The problem with it, is that the little box part at the end is a transformer of sorts that can change the current. Honestly what i think the easiest thing to use is any old 2 prong plug. Cut the wire and strip both sides. As long as you complete the circuit it doesn't matter which way you hook it up(Black,White, Red, etc.) Be sure to use caps on the connection and leave no wire exposed. I've wired many a light like this.
     
  7. kkamikazekidd

    kkamikazekidd Veggy Stage

    He's asking about the pc fan though, not a lamp...the pc fan is 12v, not 120v, so it needs the xformer..
     
  8. Jibberish_Man

    Jibberish_Man Begun Flowering

    Ahh. Good point. Disregard the former post then :D . But that will work for almost any 120volt application.
     
  9. jaketwonine

    jaketwonine Germinated

    cell phone


    cut off the connector end for the phone and hard wire it to the fan. i'm not sure you mean cut what pulgs in to the cell phone off then make the wires hold together, then clamp them. So a 12v phone charger will work about how much are one of those cost around.
     
  10. 420PotSmoker

    420PotSmoker Developed Alternating Nodes

    Well you can buy a cell phone charger at any walmart or kmart and your local Cellular Phone Store about $10-$30 Just depends where you buy it. Have you heard of using Google search to find your answers?? www.google.com


    420PotSmoker


    Smoke is Good really Good
     
  11. jaketwonine

    jaketwonine Germinated

    i hate all the other stuff they put up that has nothing to do with what i'm seaching for. thx for how much it goin to cost 30-90 for all three fans. do you tihnk i could just do with one fan on top.need to know how to wire them together if you have a site post it please.
     
  12. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    well if your going to have to buy the phone charger you might just want to compare prices to the chargers you find and wall adapter like one for a answering machine that has a standard 120V AC input with a 12Vdc output. also check the out put on the phone chargers cause i know mine for my phone is only a 5.4V output. as for the HPS sorry i should have looked at your grow area before even mentioning that sorry.if you or any one else thinks that 250W will have issues with that area you could always use a 175W MH using a 175W mercury vapor area(security) light, the kind of light that you put on a shed or pole or something. anyway the ballast is the same just by the fixture they are $23 at walmart, lowes, homedepot, then buy you the MH bulb tape up the light sensor so the light stays on when its pluged in and just hard wire it to a heavy duty extension cord and cover the loose wiring. i'll see if i can find that how to for on that conversion.
     
  13. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    alright the example i was speaking of was on OG and can't get the page up so heres another option http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mj027.htm, you can take a look at the type of light i was talking about here http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=74011-290-NH1204-M&lpage=none , that should take you directly to the regent security light i've seen a few people use these and attach hooks to the sides and the add chains to adjust the light. only thing that sucks is that the ballast isn't remote.
     
  14. jaketwonine

    jaketwonine Germinated

    i would like too know how to get the male's pollen. and about the security lights can i get them at any hardware store.
     
  15. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    as for the light you can pick those made by regent up at any homedepot or lowes, lowes is cheaper, or one made by brinks at walmart. as for the pollen some people grow them in different areas just to avoid introducing too much pollen and just bring a female in, some do the bag over the nodes to catch pollen then tie it over a branch, some use paintbrushes so just really whatever you want to do, you can probably do a little searching around.
     
  16. jaketwonine

    jaketwonine Germinated

    thx for the help that really helped. i hope i can get ever thing i need by the end of may. can you make hash out of male plants. I would like any growing tips you have.
     
  17. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    a lot of people say that males are simply trash and personally i'm not sure, i've seen a few threads were a guy just let his males mature out doors cured them and said he got some hash out of the plant, but i'm not suer if that true or not cause from the reading i've done all i've actually heard is that the females produce THC to attract pollen so that its genes can be passed on, a survivor trait if you will, so the longer the female goes without pollenation the more THC it builds up until it reaches its peak causeing the formation of trichromes. Personally i'm not positive i tried to cure and smoke some of my male plants before and i got a little buzz but i think that is mostly due to the fact that the pipe was full of resin. oh and if you do go with that light make sure you tape up the light sensor other wise it will turn it self off because of all the light in the room exspecially if you use mylar knew a guy how used that light and cause of the reflections of the mylar the light would think its day time and shut off.
     
  18. Bje4201

    Bje4201 Vegetating

    You got a link for this? I can't find a 400 under 150
     
  19. dlr42

    dlr42 King of GrowKind

    That was 7 years ago. They may be sold out.


    Peace.....
     
  20. Bje4201

    Bje4201 Vegetating

    Wow, didn't even see the date. That was stupid of me:redbong:
     

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