Alright, i have harvested like 6 plants over the past few months. They were all bagseed, seeds from $200 plus weed, nugs if you will. I now have masterkush which hasnt finished yet. Here is my question...I used a negative ion generator for quite a while cuz my house absolutlely reeked. I flushed my plants, hang-dried them for 5-7 days then into mason jars. I usually kept the ionizers less than 2 feet from the plants. Now, while the **** is POTENT, the taste is kind of weird, i mean you can taste the bud but there is something else on top of it. I knew ionizers could reduce smell outside the bud, but do they affect the taste? I have seen a couple people say this, and i am starting to think it is true. Kinda pisses me off, i am not using an ionizer again, if nothing else cuz it reduces smell SO much. PLUS it shocks the **** out of me, not painfully but it is annoying. PLEASE respond! Thankee.
What kind of flavor? How long have your buds been in mason jars? Have you grown this strain before under the same circumstances without the ozone generator? I always cure my buds for upwards of 3-4 weeeks before smoking them; this ensures that all the chlorophyl is gone from them, leaving only smooth smoking bud. I use an ozone generator, but it's in-line not in the grow room. I know excessive amounts of ozone are hazardous to animals and plants... what kind of ozone generator are you using? I use an Enlay ozone generator... sounds like yours is a home made job? Those fuckers are dangerous... I'd buy a real one if I were you. My .02 -------Dom
It is a negative ion generator I got from Worm's Way, and the buds have been in jars for varying amounts of time, but the average is 2months. I dont know what strains they were, they were seeds from mid grade nugs i got, i did that just to see if i could succeed at growing. Oh, the brand I was using is Hydrofarm. If wasnt cuz of the ionizer, I am hoping it was cuz they are ATLEAST f-3 seeds, and a few of those seeds i planted may have come from a room with an unintentional male. I smoked a sample last night, the stuff we call skunky pebbles, its cured for atleast 2 months, and the taste has gotten better, when you break the bud open it smells spectacular, but there was still a bit of "that" taste, I cant explain it, its not really a chlorophyl taste though. I mean, this stuff smells beautiful, and stinks up the room, but the taste isnt up to par, it could be genetics but i dont think so. I have a mother of this skunky pebbles, I'll grow those clones out without the ionizer and see how it is. Or I could put the ionizer outside my room I suppose. We'll see in the fall, 2 skunky pebbles clones are outside, wonder how those will taste...
I think you should probly not put the ion generator so close to the plants. It will work the same just as long as its in the same room as the plants - even outside a growbox. Makes all the polen and dust in the air fall to the floor, so it can be swept up - so what you would be smelling can be dumped. I know that neg-ions affect the human body - in a good way. but i have no idea what they do to plants.
Oh... I was thinking of an Ozone generator, not an Ionizer. I use an Ozone generator (Ozone is NOT good for you or your plants, but completely eliminates odor...) I'm not sure about Ions... but Negative Ions are good for you: Lenard (1915) found that when water is atomized (e.g. on impact of a water droplet), negative and positive charges are SEPARATED. Molecules which are torn from the surface of the water bear a NEGATIVE charge (small negative ions) whereas large drops or the entire mass of water are POSITIVE. This provided an unexpected explanation for the refreshing, invigorating effect of residences close to a waterfall or spring, or even after rain. Some of these reactions which IMPROVE WELL-BEING and physical and mental capacity have since become known. 1) Negative ions ACCELERATE the OXIDATIVE DEGRADATION of serotonin whereas POSITIVE ions have the opposite action and INACTIVATE the ENZYMES which BREAK DOWN SEROTONIN. 2) An INCREASE in the serotonin level (5-hydroxytryptamine) PRODUCES a) tachycardia, b) a rise in blood pressure, c) bronchospasm going as far as ASTHMA ATTACK, d) increased INTESTINAL PERISTALSIS (contractions and dilations of the intestines to move the contents onwards), e) increased SENSITIVITY to pain, f) increased AGGRESSION. 3) A DECREASE in the serotonin level is CALMING and INCREASES DEFENSES AGAINST INFECTION (as proven with influenza 'the flu'). 4) Negative ions produce an INCREASE in hemoglobin/oxygen affinity so that the partial oxygen pressure in the blood rises but the partial carbon dioxide pressure DECREASES. This results in REDUCED RESPIRATORY RATE and ENHANCES the METABOLISM of water-soluble vitamins. In addition, negative ions produce an INCREASE in PH and, in particular, an INCREASE in the SECRETORY performance of the MUCOSA with an INCREASE in CILIARY MOVEMENT in the airways. According to the studies of Fleischer and Pantlitschko, negative ions probably also IMPROVE BLOOD FLOW by increasing the release of proteolytic enzymes with fibrinolytic activity. Wordens studied the adrenals of golden hamsters kept under the same experimental conditions. The adrenals of animals treated with POSITIVE ions weighed 33% LESS than the adrenals of animals treated with normal respiratory air. On the other hand, the weight of the adrenals from golden hamsters treated with NEGATIVE ions was 29% HIGHER. Olivereau found a 30% ENLARGEMENT of adrenals in rats after 20 days of treatment with NEGATIVE ions. This finding suggests that the ability of the adrenals to produce glucocorticoids is REDUCED by POSITIVE ions and INCREASED by NEGATIVE ions. Considerable INCREASE in VITAL CAPACITY were observed by M.A. Vytchikova and A. Minkh in 1959, with the maintenance of blood sugar and blood oxygen levels. Thus, in a group of 9 sports students, Minkh found that ergometer endurance was INCREASED by 260% in 32 days compared with a normal control group following the INHALATION for 15 minutes DAILY of air enriched with 1.5 million NEGATIVE small ions per centimeter. Even before the 1976 Olympics, air ionization in the sleeping quarters of team members was used to improve performance in sports centres in the USSR and the GDR [M. Jokl, Prague]. Studies by Altmann in 1975 clearly show that the performance of school children can, for example, be CONSIDERABLY INCREASED by changing the electrical conditions of the rooms. Comparable effects have also been achieved by the use of IONIZED AIR. According to the latest information in the fields of medicine, biology and meteorology, it can be definitively established that atmospheric ions have a biological effect. Atmospheric electrical factors are a component of our environment and we humans are clearly affected by ELECTRO-IONIC MICROCLIMATES to a far greater extent than previously imagined. This finding acquires particular significance since, as a result of artificial air conditioning (e.g. atmospheric pollution, buildings, air-conditioning units, heating, electrical installations, plastics), civilized man spends 50-100% of his time in an UNNATURALLY CHARGED ELECTROCLIMATE. In cities, in closed rooms and in cars, etc., the proportion of small negative ions in the atmosphere is markedly reduced compared with undisturbed nature. An atmosphere with an EXCESS of NEGATIVE ions, such as frequently arise under open sky, usually INDUCES a complete VEGETATIVE TURN- AROUND within twenty days. In the curative phase of this total turn-around, the vegetative nervous system is normally RESTORED and the course of infectious diseases is essentially ATTENUATED (weakened) and (healing is) ACCELERATED. ^^Quick google search -------Dom
You paid $200 plus for a bag with seeds in it? LOL Anyways, I heard ionizers increase the yield of your plants, but I have never gone without it so I don't know for sure. If anything I believe it will help your plants by providing cleaner air. PEACE! (Edited by chato420 at 5:03 pm on Aug. 23, 2005)
No, the stuff always had very very few seeds, the ones it had were always nice, and as far as I have seen, only one ever had any hermie qualities. I did have a couple stray seeds in my first grow, but nothing outrageous. My new project is all clones though, and we finally bought seeds (masterkush) of which i have a mother and 2 clones going. Wee hee!
