JOGing ?

Discussion in 'Advanced Cultivation' started by so x ited, Aug 13, 2003.

  1. so x ited

    so x ited Veggy Stage

    I am jogging for the first time, from a clone. Plant looks totally healthy, and has about 20 main colas, and 4 side shoots. They are about halfway through 12/12, but the colas are only about half the size that the parents' were at this time. I am growing in the same soil as last time. I changed from 8-16-8 to 10-50-10 (Peter's), hoping to get better, bigger buds. My temps are running about 10 deg F above last grow, now running low/mid 90's. Could that in itself cause such a drastic change in size, growth rate?
    And since this is my first JOG attempt, are the colas usually a little smaller than say a plant with 2 main colas? I wish I knew what strain these were. Bagseed. Im working on a way to get the temps back down to 80 deg.
    Any JOGGERS out there? Wanna help a very enthusiastic 1st timer?
     
  2. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger ***Rest in Peace***

    A. temp's are an issue.
    B. generally speaking, more buds = smaller size.
     
  3. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    I did the same thing with a plant in the past X. I found that more than 9 tops on a plant greatly reduced size. I like to have anywhere from 6 - 9 tops.....tops. ;)
     
  4. so x ited

    so x ited Veggy Stage

    Cool guys, thanks for the info. On my next grow I will limit tops to 6-9 per plant. And Im working on the temp problem now. Ill let ya know how it turns out.
     
  5. streakeruk

    streakeruk Full Flowering

    Good advice, I started with about 40 little buds which weren't worth smoking on my first Jamaican. The next set grown straight with a coulple of side branches were an excellent surprise, a fine herb.
    I am learning and have 2 plants with 7 and 9 main trained cola stems. Given the 1 plant per sq. foot rule, I'm still overstreatching them but expect an ounce per stem anyways, I will train them away from each other to ease the humidity and I hope stop the mould appearing.
    A crop went into stop when the temps droped below about 50f, it went lower too. I think each plant and roots can support so much bud, problem is each strain is different!!
    Streaker
     
  6. so x ited

    so x ited Veggy Stage

    Thanks Streakeruk. I appreciate that info as well.
     
  7. gkpro420

    gkpro420 New Sprout

    I know this post, was done in 2003, but i was wondering how would u make them only have 7-9 bud sites, did u cut the other branches off?
    Thanks, Peace
     
  8. smotpoker

    smotpoker Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    you would reduce the amount of apical meristems by pruning, yes.
     
  9. Green Goblin

    Green Goblin Cannabis Connoisseur

    that was marvelouse. @smot poker

    my kind of humor

    as he stated the only obviously effective means to limit ones braches, is to simply:


    CUT THE F**KERS OFF!!

    goblins have more fun!

    (Edited by green goblin at 9:59 pm on April 26, 2004)
     
  10. llIndigoll

    llIndigoll Medical Grower

    I found the jogging technique more of a quality-enhancer rather than a cola-enlarger. Kama Sutra versus Viagra.

    I used LST mixed with jogging to accomodate poor lighting. It worked great. I suggest not topping while jogging, but that doesn't mean it can't be done well. I found that keeping one apical meristem helped maintain a larger main cola. Lower buds got more light and produced higher quality flowers with this method.
     
  11. smotpoker

    smotpoker Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    thanks GG :biggrin:

    hey indigo, do you take the main cola first, then give the lower buds more time in direct light? or just take the whole plant at once?
     
  12. llIndigoll

    llIndigoll Medical Grower

    I harvest flowers as they mature. These plants rarely finish all at once.
    After taking colas the lower buds get more light and flower-power from the plant.
    Training lower branches to elongate during veg gives them better light exposure, which can lead to healthier buds.
     
  13. gkpro420

    gkpro420 New Sprout

    I was wondering, i read that JOGing is reccomended to only do it with clones, i was wondering if i could do it with my outdoor plants, to keep them out of sight better, and lower to the ground, If this is a bad idea please tell me reasons why, and if its good, and you have experience with it, please share your thoughts. Thanks and Peace
     
  14. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    That's exactly what I want to do Pro. Never done it myself, but I think it would work well. It would be best if the plants were directly in the ground though.
     
  15. gkpro420

    gkpro420 New Sprout

    by directly in the ground, do you mean planted from seed. This summer, i will JOG a few outside, and see the results. Then if i have a digital camera by then, i will get some pics. Im thinkin though that it will work. Wish me luck. Peace
     
  16. 420solo

    420solo Cured Fat Sticky Bud

    I tried training a plant down to the ground one year, weaving it in between my marigolds. The bugs and rabbits had there way with her [​IMG] At least with bigger plants the rabbits do you a favor by trimming off your lower branches.
     
  17. adfaFd

    adfaFd Begun Flowering

    by directly in the ground he means that the plant is planted directly IN the ground.
     
  18. gkpro420

    gkpro420 New Sprout

    adfa, i meant as in from seed, or clone, k thx.
     
  19. llIndigoll

    llIndigoll Medical Grower

    You can JOG, LST, FIM plants from meiosis and/or mitosis (seed or clone).
    It's all about your patience and technique.
    I would not suggest training a plant to grow along the ground outdoors, especially if the plant is not protected by an animal-proof fence. Chewie's testimony shows the risks of having all that yummy vegetative growth low to the ground.
    You can LST your plants (clones &/or from seed) outdoors to spread the branches out more in place of cutting the apical meristem. That would give you more space for fuller flowers. I suggest keeping enough vertical height to avoid leaf-eaters.
     

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