my 1st grow...day 80 -- PICS!

i somehow got 2 fabulous females

2 weeks into 12/12 flowering

they are both about 5 foot tall and im running outta closet space...couple tops are touching the light

any suggestions my expert friends????


and are these ladies indica or sativa???

 

Ya take some of the tops anc make them clones cause that bitch is going to keep getting bigger cause it doesn't look like you have any room to tie down, you should have put them in flower a long time ago shit most plants double to triple in flowering.

 

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if they are long skinny finger like leafs, then it is sativa.


if they are short broad leafs, then it is indica.


if it is a bit of both, then it is a hybrid.


anyways, with that height, they look to be sativa..you should of LST'd and jogged them a long time ago, so you can train them. It is too late now, so your best best is cutting about 6-12 inch clones from it, and cloning all you can. If you don't, the top of your plant will get burned badly..and also, the lower parts of your plants don't look like they are getting much light anyways. You should of started flowering after 1-2 months of veg, then you wouldn't of ran out of room at all, and still have a good 2-3ft tall plant. artificial light can only penetrate down soo far before the light becomes almost useless for the plant. Plants will stretch from 2-3 times their size from veg to flowering, so you've still got ALOT of vertical growth to go.

 

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lol, we both posted pretty much the same thing, at the same time.

 

yeah i think he just let it veg way too long i mean shit 80days in a hydro setup thats nutz! Anyways its kinda hard to tell whan it is since i can't really see the fan leaves but plastik don't you agree that long in a DWC kinda hard to judge by the height with that long of a veg time.

 

hey guys thanks


thanks for all the posts guys, i will take your ideas into consideration.


the reason i vegged so long was to make sure i saw calyx development, i didn't want to induce flowering too early


so you guys suggest i cut off the tops and clone then??????


since you guys say there will be lots more growth to come should i cut off like the whole top 2 feet of the plant or what?

 

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all you have to wait for to induce flowering, is alternating nodes at the very least. I just hope you've got enough room for those roots in the hydro system, cause they are still gonna grow. if you can, plant some clones outside, and take some more for inside. Man, from what it looks like, you could possibly get a round a pound off those plants. 80 days is WAY to long in a DWC.. maybe 50 max for veg, but more around 30-40. Hell I only veg for 21-30 days. If you know someone else that grows, toss them some cuttings. You are definately going to have to harvest in stages, working your way down the plant. You are probably going to need more lights to bring those to harvest completely, and a larger area if you can, at the very least, more side space, so you can bend those brances away from each other, to get more light down below. Lemme ask you.. does all your bottom leaves yellow and slowly die off, or do you prune them off?

 

wow


i had alternating nodes quite awhile ago...thought i had to wait for calyxes -


i was just worried about flowering them too early and nothing happening, but i guess i waited too long?


so with like the dozen tops i have touching the light i should cut those and attempt to clone them???


will the plant seriously keep growing vertically - it seems to have halted lately but maybe that is because of the tops being so close to the light.


so i can make clones, and anytime the plant gets too close to the light i should cut those parts too? so maybe i could start a harvest in about a month with the nice buds that are 2-3 feet from the light?


this is my first grow and i have become overwhelmed with the plants response to 12/12, hoping to not kill these beauties...just want some bud.

 

Man you didn't have to wait for the hairs to show, you could have just flowered when the alternating nodes show then it would take about 2 weeks to show then you have like 6-10 more weeks of flowering. But yeah take the tops and make you a big bubble cloner and take you some cuttings to clone. the tops probably have pretty good stems on them.

 

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hate to tell you, but it is going to take more than 2 months to bring that plant to harvest I bet. And it will probably double or tripple in size, that is why we say take clones now, because it will focus more on the lower growth, and you will have very healthy clones.

 

wow


thats nuts...clonex is on the way i am gonna take lots of clones


if i take clones from a flowering plant...after they root can they go straight back to 12/12...or must i re-veg???


if the plant doubles or triples in size i will have absolutely no room for it....would getting 25-30 successful clones going and hacking the big boy's down be logical?

 

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should of LST'd and cloned early on..along with flower.. yes you can put a clone in 12/12 after you root it.. the whole point of cloning is to lower the height, so you can lower the light enough. I bet you could take some 12 inch clones, no problem. Just make sure you still have thick growth left, so you can still bring it to a good harvest.

 

during rooting, must i have the flowering clones under a 12/12....


or will 24 hour fluorescent light work fine until rooting?


i will take around 20 clones im guessing, from the very top as to give the plant more room to grow...


saying that 15 root, i plan on re-vegging 6 of them in bubblers, removing all flower and calyx development


the other 9 or so i want to transfer from rockwool to small soil pots and put them back under 12/12 so hopefully they can be harvested sooner than the ones re-vegging


and i will let the 2 giants continue to grow, taking the tops off as clones whenever they get near the light


one main question:: so if i cut a clone now, 3 weeks into flowering, do i have to maintain the 12/12 even while rooting it?...and after it roots, how much more flowering until harvest? 2 months max?


will post new pics tomorrow!

 

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you don't need to remove all flower development to keep it in veg, thats what 24/0 is for, keeping it in veg.. and the calyx is the flower, could cause it to hermie if you remove them.

 

need more info....


so in my other room...the veg/clone room.....i should have the flouros on 24/0???


wont that take them outta flowering??? shouldnt the fluoro be 12/12 while rooting the clones?


do i need to re-veg any ? or just cut the tops and clone & flower?

 

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I'm trying to be nice, but you gotta pay attention and use common sense man. You are making it out to be more elaborate and harder than it is. If you want to take clones and put them in flower, then yes you can, but they won't grow as much. THEY WILL STILL HAVE CALYX'S...ALL PLANTS HAVE CALYX'S WHEN THEY ARE 100% MATURE...IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE 'FLOWERING' YET. You can veg as much as you want, or just keep it under 12/12. It is up to you.

 

ok


thanks for staying calm with my beginner ass


hows this plan then...keep in mind my height problem in my original closet


any tops that grow above 5'...getting too close to the light i will make a cutting from it, then keep it under 12/12 fluoros until they root.


after they root i will put them under 12/12 HPS again


this would help with my height problem, and still let me harvest my original 2 plants...along with quite a few short clones to harvest too


i may be thinking too deeply into this, but its just its my first time and im shocked to have gotten this far, dont want to waste even a gram of bud ya know


just double checkin with this experts...thats why i come here


thanks so much man, really

 

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how are your roots in that system? any turning brown? cause Thats a small looking pot for two 6 footers. you can take as many clones as you want from where you want, but the larger the better, just make sure to keep close eye on all the clones..and don't let them dry out, but still, don't overwater them either. you can do 12/12 or 24/0..it is up to you, you can do as many as you can make room for, and it won't matter what stage they are in, you can clone any part form any stage, except some take a little longer than others.

 

hello again


it is a 10 gal. bubbler, the roots still seem very white though.


i bought a 18 gallon bubbler too, but at this stage idk how to transfer the entire plants, roots and all


i have taken 6 clones....creating 6 inches between any tops and the light


i hope the clones survived.....do they really REALLY need like a dome over top to create extra humidity?


entering week 4 flower...

 

Yes use a dome. Seriously don't take their comments into consideration. Take it as fact and just DO IT!!!