Plant issue or not here?!? How you all doing!! ;)

Discussion in 'Pests and Plant Problems' started by UrBigBuddie, Mar 8, 2015.

  1. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    Hi everyone, its been a while sinse iv personally been on the boards. Its great to see all stil going strong! :) :thumbs-up:


    Anyway, lets get down to this, iv had this my last 3 grows, and im either loosing the plot, or im just going dumb from all the time away!!! lol So here goes... I shall try and describe best i can as i cannot load a damned pic on here due to sertain issues.


    So here we have it, growing out some "Church" that i got from African traveling friend, surprisingly the seeds germed great, within a day or so.


    I used to do this and had great success, but i may be "rusty" so to speak now. i dunn :S


    Now The plant is into full Flower! ( i put this on 12/12 from seed to flower like iv done so many times before!)


    But now, here it is, were 1 n half to 2 good weeks into proper flowering, and after my first feed of Phos... into it, and its started loosing its really great healthy green look from the fan leaves from the bottom!? hmm....?


    Yes i now whats yous will think initially here ( Im loosing good healthy green out the bottom because its Flowering now, its all thats natural. I thaught that myself, maybe it even is, im unsure, and thats why i need some clarification here from you guys at GK...)


    So naturally i think this myself ok, and i leave for cpl days, water it as usual, then again (same as last time, i now try some more feed, 1ml grow, 1ml bloom(P) and 1 ml Heaven product from Biobizz range... (which ive been already feeding it through its vegg part with no issues, using both just Grow and Heaven at "1ml each", as the 12/12 trigges the flowering itself when ready because of the 12/12 from start to finish routine i do) all was great n healthy through vegg using that feed.


    But now iv added a second feed in flowering of the exact same amount of P,N and Heaven, then the green foliage faded just a little more again rite after the feeding as i had checked later and the next morning to make sure, but looked even more slightly faded, and has actually given the next level up so to speak, a kind of limey green look to the fan leaves and the bottom ones way more faded to a yellowish colour now with little stripey green lines from the leaves as its fading in colour, i thaught to feed it some more water after another cpl days and the limet green is still there and the yellowing occuring slightly but consistantly getting way more yellow with even the greenish lines ledft through them fading to almost total yelow, almost!!!


    As i said, im kinda rusty, i have an idea or 2 but im really unsure, and what a better place to come and ask than Growkind.com ;) :thumbsup:


    As i said too, the limey green i just feel is weak looking, (temps are fine enough here, so dont think that an issue, but could be some cold night temps dropping the healthy roots health!? Very unsure here, and it looks great so definately do not want to waste this at all as we all now! :wink: :jj:


    Anyway any suggestions or answers or Questions even, please please feel free to do so, as im worried this will carry itself on, and i dont want airy bud(which with this strain there usually really compact crystally nugget pruduction!)


    Thank you all Kindly in advance for any feedback at all.


    Good luck and happy/successful growing to you all hee at GK!


    UrBigBuddie..... :thumbsup: and fingers n toes crossed here.ha ha


    P.S, if any parts are even slightly unclear, please do ask and il fill you all in the best i can, thanks all!! I now some will be like .... :F-A-Q: lol im not getting it.


    Good to be back amougsnt you all at GK. :wink: :thumbs-up:
     
  2. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Hi UBB, long time man.


    So much detail but some critical info is missing. You in soil, soilless, or hydro now? In soil or soilless I'd say you have root problems. Same old question, do the pots ever really dry out? If you're in hydro I think the guys are gonna look toward lock out.


    If'n it were me, in soil, I'd dry them out real good then dose with Hygrozyme. Next two waterings after that I'd add back in mycorrhizae.
     
  3. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    Hey Res, yea good to be back and ty bro. :thumbsup:


    For starters, im in Soil, roots seem healthy enough in all honesty i must say, i feed them, give it 2 maybe on 3rd day water them, then let them dry out as much as i feel my finger as far down as i can without any damage to see if its still moist of damp(maybe i should let it go dryer more so as i did during the vegging stage of this 12/12, but tends to droop in foliage dept a gd bit.


    And... the feed ive mentioned is the only feed that has entered the plant as it just looked a pic of health until week into flowering after first flower feed. So im baffled so to speak here.


    I am thinking temps here also, plus i do not have any fans to circulate, but the area is very Open enough plus near window for plenty fresh air bar night time. But as i mentioned the temps sertainly can drop, iv noticed a few bits of purling on the fan leave stems, what do think now with this added info???


    Im very curious, as its right next to a heater and that could be put on to keep roots alot warmer i suppose, its just the smell is kinda an issue but not too much!!!?? Thanks Res for your responce!! :thumbsup:


    Ubb.... (very rusty me tinks) lol :( cant waste this, during vegg the plant was kept alot warmer i suppose with the central heating.... :BangHead:
     
  4. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    Not too familiar with the Bio Biz stuff. 1ml seems pretty light for most nutrient lines. Interveinal Chlorosis is usually magnesium related


    What week of flower?
     
  5. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    Sreaching second id say, and yes another thing i had considered was not enough N, but on 12/12 with the full mix/not light mix in biobizz range there seems to be a good decent amount of goodness/nutes/feed already in it that lasted me through my 2-3 week vegg then it started auto flowering because of the 12/12 start to finish method im using.


    Do you think the temps being lower that they are at night time woud be an issue i could sort and get back and let you know the difference, coz i now temps in soil play quite a part in a plants uptake/feeding!?!?


    Thanks alot Ras~ :thumbsup:


    Ubb.... :passsit:
     
  6. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    flower week


    Reaching second week imeant id say! Sorry! :BangHead:
     
  7. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Ok...lesson time. :bong2: Here's why an otherwise healthy looking plant in soil can seem to suddenly fall ill during early flowering.


    In veg the plant is not running at full tilt. Low temps, inadequate airflow, stunted root growth can all be masked by healthy foliage. The real indicator is speed of growth and uptake of moisture/nutes. Since the plant isn't receiving everything it needs, as fast is it wants it, it simply retards growth rate to suit it's environment. This effect is even more pronounced in gardens running 12/12 from seed to flower. Since there is no extended veg cycle all these problems don't have a chance to be recognized before flowering sets in.


    Once everything is kicked up a notch during flowering all those hidden issues suddenly become obvious when the plant can't produce the added energy to keep up with flowering. What appears to be healthy plant gone bad is, in reality, a plant that has had problems for a very long time.


    I'm not surprised there is serious wilting quickly once the pots go even slightly dry. That's an indicator of poor health and poor roots. Overall yellowing and weak leaf structure is also an indicator of poor air quality.


    Get a fan, any fan, and move that air. Dry out those pots. Treat your roots and soil. Get the root temps up to 70-77F at least 12 hours a day. Then be prepared to lose plants and crop much less than you'd hoped from the ones that survive.


    Outside of a sick garden, how you been?
     
  8. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    Outside all of this Res, things have been ok so to speak,again! :) ok is the word.


    My Mother been in and out of hosital, but on he mend and doing alot better.


    My dog also now kinda on its last legs, but hanging in there, no pain n plenty happy just getting old and not as mobile but plugging away none the less. And my health and fitness geting up to par as of recent too, as im now bk at my Krav maga/martial arts etc.. So in that respect, things picking up! Thanks for asking Res, its good to hear from an old friend from a good few years back, it truly really is bro!


    Thanks again....:thumbsup::thumbs-up:


    Ok and as for the plant here, the temps shall be kept up way more as i just checked, and boy omg, it was quite cold right enough, really cold to be truthful, so this may be an issue that can be rectified i trust thank God n hopefully! :wink: :thumbsup:


    Will keep letting the pots dry out, as apart from what ive wrote in description so far, as the plant still looks pretty good, just the issues iv stated above, i didnt want to stem outta control, so i think the temps were really prety cold there and i do understand its MJ and they truly do like and should be kept warm, especially the roots, so on goes the heating for this baby! :thumbsup: thanks for the reasurance's, il keep all up to date and hopefully get some pics up to show you all! :smokin:


    And the growth rate as you spoke of to be comletely honest, through the vegging part and even at these early stages of flower have been really actually quite strong n fast, that i really must state here, so possibly the temps being put up a real good bit like before and a little more drying out of the pots with higher soil temps too shall sort this, as the rest of it really all looks nice and with plenty trich production are coming on pretty decent thus far i must say, leading me to believe the temps could be playing quite a big role here right enough, especially where i am in the world. :wink:


    Also the roots were checked through vegg and beggining of flowering, and looked Healthy i must add.. So theres something, and So heres hoping too, as it was really quite cold there tbh, that much so, i could feel it like it was winter near the window in my g-room, so windows SHUT and heating on!!!


    Plus... Il try and get a fan, even if its just a lil one if needs be to circulate, just as you say!!


    And seen as i never made this clear, it is only the 1 plant i have going right now, so thats why i was desperate to find out, not multiple plants like before (in the past)!!!


    So thank you Res very much, its been a breath of fresh air and a really good encouraging peice of advice for an old "rusty" grower that would have sored this in the past most likely with not too many issus at all.


    But very gratefull none the less.


    Hope n wish you happy growing yourself and hope life in itself is treating yourself well also! :wink: :thumbsup:


    Thank you very much Res, im alot more confident on what im doing again after this little lesson need reminded!! HIGHLY ;) APPRECIATED brotha!!


    Take care for now,


    Pics up soon hopefully, and a report of progress at very least by next 2-3-5 days, and i shall tell of any difference and still keep the updates coming every few till hopefully things pick up much better!!


    Thanks once again Res,


    Ubb..... :thumbsup: :jj: be safe and grow on freely and happily,


    "One Luv"! :peace: :smokin:
     
  9. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    Ras~


    And thank you also to Ras~ :thumbsup:


    Everything iv been told has helped and given me some of my grow brain back, so much appreciated Ras~ also,


    hope your well brotha!


    Thank you for taking the time also to read my worry, much appreciated as always,


    UrbigBuddie.... :thumbsup: :jj: Thank you, "One Luv bro" Peace :good job:


    Every bit of info has helped greatly!


    HIGHLY gratefull Ras too, thanks man. :wink:
     
  10. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    Small overnight "Progress" update!


    The Plant this morning looks no moe in loos of any colour, but its only one day so far, but nothing but a good thing to see things aint worsening at all, and only adjusted the night time temps!


    But time will tell, especially in the next few days and with the next feed too! :thumbsup: so far so good!


    Thanks peeps, Temps were put up during the night to keep the roots warm, has seemingly kept things the way they were yest, so no deteriaration!!! :thumbsup: :bong-2:


    Ubb.... :pimp:
     
  11. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    Update! And stay green. :) )


    After all the things going on with this, i finally figuered it out with a litle help from Res, Ras and Boa.


    My Church needed some proper feed, Nitrogen it was too!


    After i added the Nitrogen at 2mls to the littre on its own, i then noticed the very next day the really quite unbelievable difference it made, it had so much more stregnth about it and health all through the plant! :thumbsup:


    My Fan leaves were not really effected at all, they look alot better and stronger in gereral, big time, to be totally truthful.


    The temperature's being upped, were also a great help ion improving this, so with the temp upped and the Nitogen added on its very own to this Bio Bizz soil, it has totally flourished by strength/Health/looks and in bud enhancement, plus major Resin production!! :coolbounce::thumbsup:


    It all goes to show what a little more information and some Growkind help can do, to totally SAVE a grow Litterally speaking, and il litteraly be showing you it in the coming days, once i can upload onto this Tablet im working off now!!:smokin:


    Pictures downlonded for people to help on these subjects, can help so so much more alot of the time, i cant express this enough, and iv been a member here for long enough in my life to Know how important and so much more helpful they can become for people to witness and learn or to witness and help with, thats why i tried my best with my description for this tbh, and it has payed dividends toward not only helping it to be alot more healthy anmd strong, it has now actually SAVED this plant in many ways!:bravo:


    Fantastic Resin production over night from the addition of



    NItrogen


    (BIg thanks to "Boa" for that one,!) So simple, yet for a rusty grower, so Vital to restore some of that, as i say "rusty" growing knowledge from the past years in life! Just a little rusty, but rusty none the less!! :smokin:


    Cant thank everyone that did read and help me through this enough really, so big thanks to you all that did, Res/Ras/Boa..... :thumbs-up:


    and the only way i can repay this to you all is, to be sharing all my pictures from all my grow that i have taken from the last week all the way to the end, it shall be great sharing pics again, especially that i have a much better camera now too!! :wink:


    PIC'S to be coming very soon folks, thanks again Growkind/Res/Ras/Boa etc for everything, always a pleasure and always a help to have been with you guys here at GK for so long! :bong-2::good job:


    So much appreciation goes out toward this! :thumbsup:


    Pictures are on their way folks, stay tuned for Ubbs nowadays grow pics!:coolbounce:


    UrBigBuddie.... :wink: :thumbsup:
     
  12. UrBigBuddie

    UrBigBuddie MEDI-GROWER

    Sorry folks iv not put pictures up yet, this little tablet is shit for picture uploading, so my dearest apologies for not following through as of yet, but most likely i will at some point soon.


    I also forgot my password, so it took some time getting back on here too! lol


    Anyway thank you all here at GK once again, its been aprivelage to have been a part of this grow site for so long over the years. Plants looking killer these days. So will try n show a few from recent grows for plain n simple entertainment purpose and a little "bud porn"!


    Hope you are all well and any new growers on here, all the best toyous on here, as this has really taught me all i needed to know on growing to start and only improve on it all.


    Thanks again Growkind.com


    All the best fellow growers,


    UrBigBuddie..... :pimp: :jj: :thumbsup: to all.
     

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