I am in the planning and thinking stages of my next room. Which will be my last change. I am going to do a 4 or 6, 14 gal tote/single plant RDWC. I am going to use 2 600hps on each side of a 1K. All being cooled by a 14,000btu ac mounted in the wall exhausting in my garage. 1 large scrubber doing all the duty of making air smell odorless. Don't know if I should have air exchange due to the ac. And my room will be 10'.6" x 6'.6"wide. The control bucket and rez will be in another room. What I am looking for is some kind of easy way to disconnect the totes from the line so I can easily clean between grows. Also How much space should be between plants so I can grow trees? Another question is how many circuits should I have going into this room? I was thinking one for the 2 600hps one for the 1K one for the pumps in the control bucket one for the ac one for fans in the room which I forgot to mention That's a total of 5 120v circuits, is that right?
Sounds GREAT to me Blah.... How many plants are you trying to grow total with this lighting? with the cleaning part is simple...when your done, leave the system where it is and fill as normal with fresh water, go in and scrub by hand while the system is running.....then let it run a day with hygrodyme and food grade H2o2 as well.....then rinse it out fully.......you'll be good to go for next time.....the shut off valves SUCK DICK! 5 Circuts sound good too
I think I will put 6 circuits, and leave room to upgrade to 3K system in the future. Well CC I don't suck dick so fuck the disconnects, I'll do what you say.....you better be right. :321fu: I am not going to get the 8oo dollar chiller at this time. Like you it will be sitting on create so it might keep cool but I will not screw myself and I will plan on it when running lines.
I always forget to add hat I have a AC/HEAT duct in my grow room, it jus happened to be there already (bonus)....so that helps greatly what part of the country you in Blah? State? I mean you can try and find better shut off valves that will work for you, i jus didnt have the time to spare this round.....it is a good idea tho....i did already have a clog issue but i just took 2 pieces of wood shim and vice grips, clamped off the line good, plugged the bucket hole with a rag and disconnected the single bucket to relieve the root clog up......no big deal, took 5 mins, but i also vegged waaaay to long....i have bucket shaped root masses now, not good, but cool lookin
If you would grow in a bigger bucket or tote would the plants grow bigger? This is why I think I will try 14 gal totes.
id imagine so....try it out.....some people use the black and yellow HARD SOLID storage containers from lowes or HD......kinda pricey but low and wide, it gives a hell of a footprint for the plant....i think theyre like 20+ gal
vented or not If you got co2 and the heat is controlable then you don't need to vent just run a scrubberto clean the air
Can you elaborate on this? please. I didn't want to run co2 but will if it will considerably increase my yield. The main reason is just cause I don't understand it. I'm thinking of a gas in the air. How much for a room 10' tall 10' long 7' wide?
He is saying go sealed if you create your own co2 and control the temp you just need to scrub the air of the smell with a filter that just pulls air usually through the light hoods and blows it into the room. You do need some sort of vent normally though most ppl say to vent for atleast an hour a day to get some fresh air. As far as tubs check out my diy i'll be updating it within the next couple days with 2 10 siters daisy chained together with a 5 gal bucket controller. They work perfect with a 1k 2 take up about 4'x5'...DSP http://www.growkind.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40076
What if I don't run co2, do I still need to vent the same way? I will be hanging my lights so I will just need to keep adiquit room temps and exchange room air once and a while...right? Until I iron out the bugs I can't really start this project.
If you don't use co2 you will rely on what is present in the air so you need to exchange it from some where...DSP
Ok thinking a lot of using co2 in the room. For a room 10' tall x 10' long x 7' wide and 4-6 plants what size burner should I get? Does anyone have a link of which one I should be looking into? also How big would the Vortec have to be if I were to scrub the air in the room? Also the humidifier.
Well I personally have no experience with burners but i talked to hydrorookie from here at GK he uses this two of these with a 50 gal res cycling through to cool them down a bit. http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/hydrogen-minigen-water-cooled-co2-lp-generator-p-2792.html I usually don't need a humidifier ever but in spring and summer i def need a dehumidifier the RH will get as high as 60% in an ac'd room. This is one thing i have not purchased yet but next spring i will. This is the one i have been looking at. http://www.air-conditioner-home.com/delonghi-dd45p/?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=comparisonshopping I don't know about you but it never needing emptied is worth it's weight in gold and it get's better reviews than a "royal soveriegn" unit that they sell at home depot and Best Buy. Well i like the Valuline and i would get an 8" with matching filter if i was simply scrubbing the air and not using the fan for any type of hood cooling. http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/phresh-8x24-750-cfm-carbon-filter-p-2906.html http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/valueline-inch-745-cfm-centrifugal-inline-fan-p-2261.html Those combo'd should do the trick and if you are cooling say 2+ lights if they are in a line you can daisy chain them together in line fan < < (hood1)<<(hood2)<<(filter) they also make a split reducer like 8" to 2x6" http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/8x6x6-inch-galvanized-steel-connector-p-1543.html So use the smaller filters that equal up to around 750 cfm as the fan is rated.Then hook them up like this <<(Hood1)<<(Hood2)<(400cfmscrub) FAN<<(y adaptor) <<(Hood3)<<(Hood4)<(400cfmscrub) Just a thought...Steelcity
Thanks Steelcity :thumbs-up: I am going to leave the bulbs out of the reflectors and hang them. Letting the Ac cool the room. Having the room sealed up. I got to do a bit more research on this or find another person that did one this small to copy. Now they say you can't have any moisture touch the light bulbs (hps) or they will blow, is this true? If so How am I going to run lines for co2? I'm going to do a search on GK for people using/setting up co2.
moisture like? i mean if a water droplet hits a bulb that's been running it will possibly shatter it. I only know what i have done or researched and Co2 i have no practical experience with to give you the first hand. Hit up Useless or HydroRookie if you can't find the answer you are looking for in the search.
