What do you think?...

Discussion in 'Beginner Lounge' started by Shisno, Apr 15, 2007.

  1. Shisno

    Shisno Bong Whore

    Hey, I'm a first time grower/long time smoker and I started up a closet grow project at the beginning of february (thats when I planted the sprouting seeds) and I have been keeping them on a 12hour light/12 night cycle since the beginning. I started with 3 sprouts, 2 survived into the healthy plants below... except I think one of them may be a herme... At first I thought it was a male so I separated the two instantly... but now it has pistils growing out of it. I want to know what you guys think? male or female?

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    And here is the female:

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    Also, when is a good time to tranplant to bigger pots? and is there an easy way to do it? Thanks for any help guys!
     
  2. SpecialEd420

    SpecialEd420 Full Flowering

    i think you need to get your light cycle right before you continue try 18/6 not 12/12, thats for flowering
     
  3. Shisno

    Shisno Bong Whore

    well its a little late now, isn't it? I mean, isn't it starting to flower?
     
  4. LionLoves420

    LionLoves420 Lazy Days In The Sun

    yes, but next time, you need to get the general growth down before taking them to 12/12 for flowering...what kind of lights are you using, what kind of soil, what is your grow area like? These things will help us help you....(you had me hello...what?) But that's a general start...why did you decide to do 12/12 from the start?
     
  5. Randy High

    Randy High Organic Alumni

    You have so much room for soil still in that pot.


    More soil = more room = more roots = more growth = more bud/


    I have to say I liked the plant.


    What ya feeding?


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    I'd take and loosen that plant in the pot with a butter knife by going around the edge of the inside carefully.


    Then carefully get it out of that pot.


    Add some premium compost or organic soil to the pot so that the plant sits level with the top of the pot when it's put back inside. Also fill in the sides.


    Then once the plant is back in the pot with new soil under and around the old firm the soil lightly.
     
  6. crazyhorse

    crazyhorse New Sprout

    I'd have to try filling it up with soil, and put it on 24 hr on , and see if it will go back to Veg, it's worth a try huh?
     
  7. Shisno

    Shisno Bong Whore

    I am using a light I got from the hardware store, its a 24" plant/aquarium light (and the male/herme is just on a regular "cool white" light) I decided to go with 12/12 from the start because I found shitty advice on other sites... is it safe to change the cycle now? or is it gonna mess with the plant?


    I used an all-purpose potting soil mixed with a little seed germinating stuff (very loose good for drainage) and the germinating stuff has about 3/4 inch layer on top as well. Is it too late to add more soil? there was more at one point but I had a spill (glad it survived!)


    as for feeding it its just been water so far... wasnt really sure what kind of fertilizer - if any - I should be throwing in there.


    thanks for the input so far everyone!


    Edit: forgot to add a description of the grow area... its in a linen closet in my hallway... maybe about 3'x4'x8'. I dont have any circulation (seems that ive been reading that is important, but it never really gets too warm or anything in there) I have been using a box to throw over the whole thing that is lined with aluminum, but apparently thats bad too? if so, the internet has A LOT of shitty info.
     
  8. Cannagirl

    Cannagirl Preheat to 420

    If it's just an experiment then it's just that, an experiment. I'm sure he knows that the plant "should" be older before flowering. But he said it himself he was doing an experiment.


    And dude, both those plants are female. I don't know how the light cycle will affect them hermie wise, but it's definately possible. They are both 100% female and could go hermie later, but in no way was either one ever male.


    Your light is not worth re-vegging those plants. Continue your experiment and get better lights. Then plant a few more seeds and wait until they have alternating nodes, then switch to 12/12.


    If you switch back your lights it will take the plant a while to go back into vegging mode and your light is not enough to support larger plants.
     
  9. SmokeWizzleEveryDizzle

    SmokeWizzleEveryDizzle ~Movin on up'

    There may be alot of bad info out there, but like you said in ur intro (in other thread), you know your makin mistakes you just need to have em pointed out... so.....


    *Its possible to have a small harvest going from seed to immediate flowering, but your yield will be 10 times greater if you veg. it out for a month or so, (18-24 hours of light per day.


    *Some claim aluminum creates a burn or focusing of light, and its reccomended if you HAVE to use it; to use the dull side..


    *I dont see any sacs on ur "hermie" maybe its a bad shot, maybe Im too glossy eyed right now to really see that, but I dont see any balls.


    *That light will not cut it for decent harvests, any upgrade to cfl's, or hid's will be WAY useful ASAP!


    *Dont use Miracle Grow, you didnt say you were usin it, but I have a sneaking suspicion.


    *Id also break out a tape measurer, that closet doesnt look 3X4X8, maybe if you get all that shelving outta there...


    I probbly missed some stuff but that should be some thinkin for ya! beats some1 reccomending FAQ's (which Im kinda surprised nobody did lol)


    ~Wizzle
     
  10. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Dont forget about nutes( grow,bud boosters and bloom,etc)


    You really could be doing with some ESSENTIAL organic nutrients to feed the plant,even now you could add some nutes cos the plant just aint gettin enough and it starts to show...


    The reason a plant MAY turn hermie if you flower from seed is cos the plant as its not had time to veg/develop thinks its chances of survival,etc are slim so it turns hermie in order to reproduce...a kind of built in mechanism for MJ plants to save itself from extinction type thing,im doing a LOT of reading on hermies at the moment.


    Have a good read of the FAQS,especially the 'closet growroom guide' as it includes info on lights,mediums,basically all you will ned to know about doing a closet grow.There IS a lot of bad info out there,you gradually learn what sites are full of shit and which aren't... we aren't,lol:wink:Peace:smokin:
     
  11. Shisno

    Shisno Bong Whore

    ya, I wasnt too sure about that big bastard being female/male but I separated them for safety measures... I guess I can re-unite them now lol. I planted them both at the same time (with seeds I found in my buds) so they are most definitely different strains, but the tall plant has No signs of crystals whatsoever, while the smaller one is chock full of that white goodness. Since this was just an experimental grow, should I even bother trying to transplant into bigger pots?


    When I go to start my next grow op I am definitely gonna invest a little bit of cash into it and try to get proper lighting and maybe even a couple small fans or something.


    Edit: I've been searching around the FAQ's on alternating nodes... I know that mine are in parallel, how does one alternate nodes? does it happen naturally? what does it even do?
     
  12. Cannagirl

    Cannagirl Preheat to 420

    Alternating nodes are just a sign of maturity really, just like how some plants will show pre-flowers when they are mature. Unless someone has a better explantion.....
     
  13. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Thinking out loud....


    Im just thinking out loud here,but all MJ plants iv grown have obviously had parallel nodes during the veg period,its not usually until flowering starts that you start to see alt.nodes and proper calyx formation,etc so maybe cos you flowered from seed(iv never done this myself although have seen it done by friends)the plant ,as it didnt have a veg period,wasnt able to go through the normal formation :ponder:


    Again im just thinking out loud cos iv never actually done a lil 'flower from seed' experiment i guess i just always thought why flower from seed and lessen my potential yield but if you got plenty seeds then it wont do you any harm to have tried this,thats what its all about 'trial and error' and 'practice makes perfect' ,etc...


    As for investing in lights,nutes,etc then yeah :thumbsup:defo do it cos if you wanna take growing serious and make plenty good bud for yourself then id highly reccomend it but you seem to have done well with what you've had to use so far so id love to see what you could do with all the right equipment,etc.Peace:potleaf:
     

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