I have failed at cloning, but i think it was because I did not give them 2 weeks to root...I have clonex 1. does the stem of the clone (maybe two inches of it that is being buried) need to be COATED with clonex when being placed in the pre-made hole? 2. If they do not need to be coated, do the parts where the lateral branches were cut need to be coated specifically? I once heard this is where roots form first? Is this true? 3. Does it only benefit to scrape the stem? is this the norm? what's the ideal temp for the rooting median to be, pre root appearance? 83ish? :thumbsup: Thanks fellas assit: not the most advanced questions, but the beginners lounge is so garbled sometimes...i just want maybe one or two solid answers from you soil cloners.
Well after many failed attempts. I read about and had success with scraping the stem, dipped in Rooting and planting in moist (not wet or saturated) medium which mine consisted of peat moss & perlite, watering several times during the process. Just make sure to let the soil dry out some before watering again. I did notice the lower portions of cuttings I tried to get to root in straight water never did grow roots, but then I scraped the previously submerged area and some above that mark as well and then placed in medium. Roots grew from only the scraped area ABOVE the old watermark. Hope this helps.
I dont know if the pictures are going to show up or not. You can look in the FAQs and find the cloning in soil thread. You need to make sure the cut and stem that is buried under soil is well coated. ~Cloning in soil, contributed by Hicountry2:~ The cutting as it was taken from the donor plant. Lower leaves trimmed off to accomodate planting. The spots where leaves have been taken provide growth spots for roots to start. With cuts like this scrapeing or scarification is not needed "IMHO" 45* cut, out of focus, but you can see the steep angle of the cut. I leave the cuts soaking for 10-15 minutes in ph adjusted water. Lately I use a weakened kelp solution. I don't feel the kelp necessary however. A final cut at a 45* angle underwater. Aids in prevention of an 'air bubble' blocking the mainstem Rooting hormone... make sure the cut is well coated. I remove excess by tapping the cutting briskly with a flick of the finger. Hormoned and ready to plant. Planting... Holes should be large enuf that the stem slips easily in without scrapeing off the rooting hormone. Press the medium firmly around the stem. I use plexiglass on top of the tupper ware container as a humidity dome. Remove it twice a day, for an hour or so, every day extending the time off, untill at the end of 7 days it can be removed completely. I only mist 'spareingly' if I see wilting dureing dome off. Clones need warm temps to root. 70-75 F is about ideal, in my experience. Roots should be visible in 7-10 days, another 7-10 they're ready for big pots.
I clone straight into the soil/mulch that I'm going to grow my plants in. I take the clone from above the first set of leaves on the branch, making sure that the branch is not to woody prior to taking the clone. I then score 2 opposite sides of the stem for 2 inches, leaving as much plant material attached as a flap to one side. I then cut the stem at a 45 degree angle to the branch and place it directly into the mulch, which is completely saturated with water. I then place the planter into a pan keeping 2 inches of water covering the base of the planter, I then place 3, 60 watt cool compact light bulbs within a few inches of the clones, keeping a small amount of air blowing across them. I then mist the plants 6 to 8 times the first day or 2 and I use wire ties to support any leaves that curl under or droop down. After 3 days I add 1 to 2 drops per plant of Alaskan b1 transplant fertilizer to the water, normally in 10 to 14 days they are ready for their veg. I make my own mulch and start all of my plants in it and transplant back into it so that they adjusted to the same mulch all of the time.
Why not either spend the money and use rapid rooters which are almost failure proof it seems, or making a bubble/aero cloner. All easy methods that really work faster and more efficiently than soil cloning. a slab of 100 rapid rooter cubes is like $15 and you can build a good aero or bubble cloner for that or a little more.
not too wet i failed too,fucked up like 8...going straight into soil cause i wet the soil the night before and it never dried out enough with a dome over it,so now i'm not adding any water to the soil and just misting the dome when i notice the condensation dryeing up.we will see what happens they are still green 8 days later so im hopeful.in the meantime i got some rapid rooters they are cheap and the dude at the grow shop said the only way to really screw up with them is to get them too wet...you want moist..not wet conditions,he said dont leave the rooters in standing water.the moms are 9 days into flowering so i hope some of these bastards take or i'm back to seed.
skunky The bubble cloner was an original idea, but it was cast to the side for some reason... That sounds like a good idea. I prefer soil, but i could probably forgoe some soil for a small bubble cloner...I was going to make the one in the DIY thread. Monkey...I've seen the thread, I just wanted some other personal experience reviews. Thanks. Thanks for the input fellas. ALWAYS appreciated :thumbsup: and I have a humidity dome, heating pad with thermostat, clonex, etc...so I am prepared...I just need to be successful! It'll happen. Skuniy- would you suggest soaking the rapid rooters in a very mild solution of super thrive and clonex mixed with water?
You could if you wanted and I'm sure it would help. I've always just used the rapid rooters out of the packaging as they are pre-moistened and then just put the remainder in a zip-lock bag to keep them that way, works fine. If you do soak them like that, you will probably want to squeeze some of the solution out so they aren't so wet.
Only new to this my self, but tried a few cuttings in soil and had 60% sucsess. I then got a tray of rapid rooters and it was 100%. This is my first grow, so i dont know if it was because the first set of cuttings where to early(soil 1's). Then a week later took some cuttings using rapid rooters they all out grow them, used root gel on both hope this some help
