Ok I'm disgusted

Discussion in 'Smokers Lounge' started by Chronic Don, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. Chronic Don

    Chronic Don Daddy of RP & GG

    I'm pissed, disgusted and wondering what the f

    I decided to go to seedbay and set up an account so I can put some of my seeds on it. I have a few thousand left from last crop.
    so I'm reading thru the "How it works" section so I can do it. well as I'm reading thru I see this
    "When the Auction or Buy Now has ended, 50% will be subtracted from the final price for Seedbay operating expenses and 50% of the final price will be for the seller."

    ok I know it provides a service which most of us cannot provide themselves,
    but 50%? come on now. I know the world runs on taking as much money from the people as they can, but sometimes I see greed not help as the reason for such pricing.
    Who the F* do they think they are?

    Anyone else see this as a f* money grab by greedy corporate types?
     
  2. TheFomorian

    TheFomorian Neo-Shaman

    That's pretty standard for consignment shops and general retail. Wal-Mart buys widgets for a buck and sells them for two. Not that that makes it a happy situation, but it is the norm.
     
  3. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    That's the price of Seedbay Don. Pay or......well.....don't move your seeds. Or put up a sight, buy a website design, secure a .com, a server, advertise your site on the net, get yourself set up with an LLC or similar, get a tax ID # and run the sales from your living room.


    Of course if you live where seed sales are illegal then you would have to set all this up AND have somebody in a legal seed country handle the seed stock and shipping for you anyway and pay them to do it.


    50% isn't looking so bad to me now.
     
  4. Chronic Don

    Chronic Don Daddy of RP & GG

    I'll feed to my kids mice first
     
  5. Chronic Don

    Chronic Don Daddy of RP & GG

    The reason these places and other business' as well get away with charging exhorberent prices is because no ones got the balls to say fuck you I won't pay it. do you not think if enough people said no, they'd have to listen. or sell nothing or have nothing to sell.


    I dont "need" to sell my seeds, I just have an old strain climatized to a latitude/region and was hoping to share it around.
     
  6. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    It's up to you Don. But even if they go for a $1 a seed and you get $.50 that mouse food will be costing you over $8000 per pound in lost seed income.
     
  7. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    They provide a one stop shop for hobby breeders, old stock turn over for serious breeders and visibility for upstart wanna be's. Anytime you get a place that has put together the marketing, payment, shipping and customer service under one roof for you as a consumer/retailer to use....it's going to cost. You're essentially "renting" sq/footage in their online store. Add in that there are few places in the western markets that allow legal seed sales and they have quite the commodity.


    Me? If I had a few thousand to sell on an occasional basis I'd just list-em and ship-em then wait for the check. Ease and convenience have value to me.


    Besides the choice is to say "fuck you!" then go spend several thousand $$ and a couple hundred hours setting up your own outlet.
     
  8. EvilSkuzzi

    EvilSkuzzi Sweet Guy

    100% is less than standard for the seed market. Like RR said, seed banks offer a service that breeders are willing to pay for. If you went to seedboutique.com and found out what Gypsy paid per pack of seeds you see his mark up would be over 100%.
     
  9. HeadCase

    HeadCase Old Prick

    Well it's like this getting 50 cents on a dollar from a fuck up isn't bad. I say fuck up because if I'm growing pot I don't want any seeds it called SINSEMILLA just my 2 cents-Bud
     
  10. MrAstro

    MrAstro R.I.P

    You'd be surprised.
     
  11. rollin2techno

    rollin2techno cL053t Gr0w3r

    A shit ton! A well dusted plant will produce thousands. Once you do it you will learn how insanely overpriced seeds are. :321fu:
     
  12. Chronic Don

    Chronic Don Daddy of RP & GG

    I go to auctions all the time, I have sold stuff at auctions,bought stuff at auctions and never do I pay more then 15-20% fees. I had figured on 30+% just not 50%.


    Mice seem quite happy tonight.


    I don't NEED to sell my seeds, but since they are an old breed untouched in yrs I figure someone would like them to breed with. I will consider the prices. as it says on their site, you need to supply them with seeds for free for themselves. so if I sent 10,000 seeds how many for testing? 10 lots of a 100 to check germ? or if it was only a 1000 then a 100 for testing? not sure as it didnt say. Then I pay for shipping, packaging, all in all it makes my 50% most likely 20%.


    and yes some retailers double or more the prices, how-ever a large % do not, some work on 10% margins, even less. When I was in business before I got sick 5 yrs ago I had a 20-25% mark up and was priced high.


    Walmarts/ Big Box Stores of the world are less then 10% of retail sales.
     
  13. HeadCase

    HeadCase Old Prick

    It seems like they just want you to give them the seed for nothing & they make all the money . I hope your mice enjoy them & fuck seed-bay. That's the problem now days everybody want to make a killing off of everything.More people need to tell them to get fucked :thumbs-up: -Bud
     
  14. ncmaineac

    ncmaineac Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    chronic don


    not sure you have stopped to think of what you will make as opposed to what you will lose....


    all biz's have operating expenses...take the total of all expenses and the charge what you want.....its your biz....profits vary a bunch in biz....from a percentage of 1 percent to thousands of percent...really...


    so if you want to make money...you need to think about what you WILL make instead of what everything COSTS.....


    being in biz with someone who does everything except provide product and charges 50%, you should just charge according...


    it all sounds like a way to make good money....if you have quality seeds and the word gets out...i have seen some crazy prices on seebay...


    good luck man..


    ps if you need a tester pm me...i would be glad to help a brother out and give my assessment of the product....i have room to do a few plants...and r u making fem seeds as well?
     
  15. MrAstro

    MrAstro R.I.P

    If they're 'untouched in yrs.', are you sure that they're even viable?


    And who wants to count-out 10,000 seeds?!!


    Feed the rodents.
     
  16. Cannagirl

    Cannagirl Preheat to 420

    Or the birds! Pigeon Racers often hot up the birds with hemp seeds before a race :angel4:
     
  17. MrAstro

    MrAstro R.I.P

    Yeah! Send them to you, huh?!!
     
  18. Cannagirl

    Cannagirl Preheat to 420

    For sure ;) My "birds" would appreciate them.....I'll share I promise...
     
  19. sectguitar

    sectguitar Guest

    its how gypsy pays for icmag mag, seedbou, and the bay
     
  20. EvilSkuzzi

    EvilSkuzzi Sweet Guy

    Any retailer operating at 10% mark up is dealing with high volume sale items. Such as food retailers etc. Asda/Walmart for example. MJ seed banks are dealing in a novelty low turnover items. To run at a 10% markup would put every seed bank under within months.
     

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