Since I was away and not watching the news I am a couple days late on hearing the news but I am just very proud that proposition H8, I mean prop 8 (re-banning gay marriage) in California was deemed unconstitutional and overturned. I am straight but my friends are mostly gay and I share their joy at this step towards equality......again!
Don't celebrate yet. Still a couple appeals to go through and there is still a court order saying that Gay folk cannot marry. This should reach the U.S. Supreme court in about 2-3 years. Then we will have the final answer. :bong-2:
domestic partnership I think the states should recognize gay domestic partnership as equal to marriage but to me and written human history marriage has meant a sacred joining of man to woman. That being said you should understand why there is such a big deal. To make all sides equal there should have a special wedding per say and make it special and sacred so they can have their own domestic partnership that is recognized by all as a special gay marriage so the church and all else who feel it takes away from the sanctity of marriage wont have a reason to complain. Here's an example gay is no longer a common word for happy when someone is queer they are no longer strange. 50 years ago if you were acting queerly gay you were strangely happy. I just think we should compromise because the powers that be are using this type of stuff too divide us they let millions of illegals come so as to keep us off track so we don't see what they are realy doing. Like pumping oil out of a well that could have been blown shut as soon as it blew instead they now have public approval to drill more Wells people don't need more laws to protect them from people at the cost of even one persons freedom. It's not about homosexual rights it's about human rights and freedom I'll fight for their right to choose but are they willing to fight for my right to hunt fish have Pitt bull terriers and a monster truck that only gets driven 1,500 miles max a year and gets 8 MPG my daily driver gets 38 or do I need to waste more oil to buy new ones on credit meanwhile ur elected keep shifting more power to the rich elite corporations that are fronts for the rich .so if there is issues they file bankruptcy and they dont lose a dime out of their own pockets the tax payers bail them out .fuck it REVOLUTION. CALLING ALL OF YOU
we the people We is the key word out constitution already protects everyone equally the only new amendment should read all citizens of the us should be treated equally including laws that give perks for minorities. No more minorities the only minority is due to wealth not race not beliefs if the law don't protect me and you the same then their not just and by design are probably gonna hinder or oppress another's freedom. Hate crime is a crime that has been put into use for the sole purpose of adding charges and time to a crime that already is illegal .if I call you a fag ****** or beaner gook or other hate crime per say then isn't that the same as calling me cracker or white boy or redneck ? Yes it is so why is it when that happens the offending party isn't charged with hate crimes? Easy it keeps it going .my best friend is black and he don't think that it's wrong to say things like that but is the first to flip out when someone drops the N bomb but its OK to say shit about white people that ain't racism he says. I have no faith in humanity they take what's been told to them as stone I'M NOT A RACIST OR FAGG BASHER I HATE ALL EQUALLY NO BUT REALLY IT'S WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH FOR THE PEOPLE OF EARTH AND ALL OF YOU. BETTER FIGURE IT OUT SOON
Domestic partnership as opposed to marriage is just semantic doubletalk. They are two terms for the same thing. And "sacred"ness and "the church" are irrelevent here, because this a legal issue, not a religious one. Just like if an atheist hetero couple is married w/o any kind of religious ceremony they are considered married legally, and socially as well. Religion, or lack of it, has nothing to do with this issue. That's why it's being decided in the courts, not "the church".
Everything is about religion in this world.......everything is controlled by it..and this is no differant......of course its going to be decided in court, what isnt ????? If theres people out there that honestly think this is a "legal" issue in our society, your drunk on stupid Marrige is a legal issue, yes but only because of items and products garnished while together......homes, cars, boats etc.. 401k....... This gay marrige thing is all about the OLD fogeys in control......remember its still the generation from the 60's that hold onto the mass majority of the state seats of power.....todays generation is highly non religious as well as the last gen too.....so goes the push for equality within recent times......the old heads dont want "FAGS" to be together....why??????? Cuz god said so, thats why! Not a judge! You get my point, im not going to beat down religion but......it still does and always will rule with an IRON religious FIST!
@ MT king I can dig what you are saying about WE as a ppl are being extorted by our own officials that we elect. I say we need to vote out all incumbants. We need to breath new life into our government cause if we don't it is definitely on the downward slope. We had this ramp up after the wars then labor scares in the 80's now we are limping along and for no other reason than our government has sold us out completely. About the task at hand prop8. I agree hank. I think the problem is we don't stand on the values on which this country was created. No where does it say that gays are illegal so why is it illegal to share the benefits that every other couple get's to enjoy? THE CHURCH says it's wrong so godfearing christian good ole boys say it is too.It is Bs if a man/woman can stand the sight of another man/woman every morning when he/she wakes up then why is that so different? I don't know how one man finds another attractive but hey rock out. Where is strawberry cough i'm sure she has something to say bout this...Steelcity
alternatives Believe me I philosophicly meant find a term that means gay marriage that is all theirs I'm al for it.it won't degrade my idea of marriage the word to me is a permanent thing and should only be allowed 1 time no divorces you made a promise to yourself yourpartner and your God to forever and no matter what to be with them and do for each other put up with there shit. I'm sorry but your only as good as your word and if you can't keep a promise to yourself and you god you shouldn't be allowed to do it again your. Only as good as your word
Marriage as an institution is man made and was created by religion for a reason: When everyone just goes around fucking willy-nilly you spread disease, have the possibility of incest, and less of a possibility of good genes being passed on. Now, Marriage as a word has the base meaning of a union between two or more things. In the restaurant industry when we combine the last of one ketchup bottle into another, we call it "marrying" the ketchup. The word was then hijacked in western culture to mean what it does today (though Webster includes gay marriage in their definition now). I think bending to the religious objectors by simply giving homosexuals a different word for marriage is equatable to "Separate but equal." I believe this is only an issue because some religious nut jobs have made it that way. This organizations are fringe groups who have more money than brains, if they have any at all. Most major US church factions have given to individual priests the discretion to "marry" gays. The only reason politicians oppose it is because of these groups that pay into their pockets to get elected, otherwise it is double the money in fucking taxes and shit for licenses and the like to get married in the first place. I do know that my wife is an atheists and I didn't pledge the full length of my life to any god, yet I still get the same benefits of people who do. Otherwise though, glad we all agree they should have the same benefits any "married" person gets.
Nothing is about religion in my world. Really, wtf are you talking about? Are you off your meds or something? Your comment is total nonsense and then you call other people (me) drunk or stupid! Ha ha ha, you are hilarious! (in a I'm laughing at you way)
Hey hey CC.....watch what you're saying about "old heads". In my perfect world there would be no legal reference to marriage, Heterosexual or Homosexual. Any union between two consenting adults would be legally defined in law as a Domestic Partnership with all rights and responsibilities regarding tax benefits, insurance, property ownership, guardianship and survivorship recognized equally regardless of sexual preference. The term "marriage" should belong to whatever religious organization (if any) the couple deems to use to publicly recognize the union. Take the damn term out of the law books.
I'm actually more surprised women find men attractive, at least other men are used to your smelly, territorial ways
