i just got some commercial weed that isnt that good. I was thinkink i could put it in a glass jar for about 2 weeks and maybe it would be more potent.when i do this should i get the nugs out everday and comb them or just leave the jar shut for 2 weeks?
herb gave you the answer. if you're looking for a second opinion, here it is ... you won't be able to improve the potency no matter what you do...they are what they are.
I'll give my input as well: You won't be able to improve the potency no matter what you do...they are what they are.
The buds are what they are, now if you were growing some of the seeds, then I'm sure if you take care of it the potency will increase.
I have to disagree Johnny...it you are growing the seeds then they carry the same genes. Potency is based on set values of a particular strain...that doesn't change with growing techniques. You may be able to get the most out of a commercial strain by growing it well, but you can't change genetics. Top it off with the fact that you may just be growing seeds from a hermie which is far from being a superior quality even to the original strain....it's quite possible you are growing the weakest of the bunch.
Hmmm . They are , what they are . You is what you is . A cow don't make ham . And that's all there is . Two other words , DRY ICE !
Herb, not trying to start an argument, because its obvious that you know your stuff and you have the pics to prove it. but if im understanding you right your saying that If i were to take any strain with a high potency, and grow it in less then ideal conditions (as is the case with lots of commercial), it wouldnt make any difference what so ever?
Not sure if I understand you completely, but potency is not determined by the growing....yeild is. The potency is pre-determined in a plant's genes. I have grown the same clones under different circumstances and the potency remained the same while yeilds were different....hope that helps clear things up. I'm just saying as Strato did....a cow can't give ya ham.
Long ago I we had access to 100# of dry ice a day . Seems Conrad took to storing his weed in the cooler till lunch . Sorta place no one would look at work . You don't go digging around in dry ice bare handed and all . Now it took some convincing , but after many blind(haha) trials it became obvious that an alteration had taken place . A good one . The weed was more harsh and that's the downside , but the high was certainly intensified . It may have something to do with the conversion of precursors to tetrahydrocannabinol , or possibly decarboxylization . I dunno , I'm no scientist . I'm sure there's an explanation . I probably knew the answer long ago . Anyway it was the only way to "increase potency" that we ever saw a real change from . Haven't had the oportunity to try that trick in years , wish there was an ice house nearby . Damn , there might be , I'll check the Yellow Pages . Hope that helps , Strato .
I used to hear that it worked too, years ago. I was told that you should put in a coffee can, equal parts weed and dry ice and punch a hole in the lid so the ice will evaporate. Now the only parts I'm unsure of are if the weed should be in a bag, if the amount of ice should be in weight or volume and where the hell would you get a habdful of dry ice.
I thought sure I would be scoffed at . Dry Ice is available lots of places . Like I said the Yellow Pages would be my starting point . Look under Ice , and ask from there . As far as the tech goes , this was back in the day when you walked around with a lid in a baggie . So I'm sure there was plenty of air exchange . . . The problem with the coffee can and 50-50 as I see it is that the cold metal is gonna atract a ton of moisture . Just like a cold windowpane . So even though dry Ice sublimates directly to a gas with no liquid state (at atmospheric pressure) , there is the moiture in the air to contend with . Even exposed to open air dry ice will form a layer of water ice from the humidity and when the dry ice is finnnaly gone the water ice melts and you will have a mess . When working with dry ice I would recomend the following . First it is extremely cold stuff , wear heavy gloves when handling* . Use the best insulated cooler you can get . Get 50 pounds of dry ice , a block about a foot cubed , any less and it just evaporates too quickly . Ours used to be packed in brown paper and sliced into 2inch layers . Bring your cooler with you . The smaller the better . Roughly , a 12 pack plus ice , size cooler for 50 pounds of CO2 . Wrap the cooler in a couple of blankets , newspapers are a good insulator too . Once you get the ice home and the inside of the cooler has established an equilibrium , I would put my herb in an open topped plastic container and quickly stick it into the cooler , closing the lid tightly and re-wrapping with your insulator . I would wait 4 hours or more , without checking . That dry ice will last till morning and beyond in an un-opened cooler , and since you stuck it in there and closed the lid no additional moisture has entered so your stuff is just fine . Oh , be prepared that as the CO2 "melts" your herb doesn't take a tumble . *Dry ice can cause frostbite . Dry ice should not be put into a sealed container (coolers have plenty of leaks don't worry) . As the "ice" sublimates the gas pressures can build tremendously (explosively) . Makes a wonderful little bomb . Oh BTW there is a liquid state for CO2 , just not at atmospheric pressures (seen it with my own eyes). Fun trick: stick a quarter or other pocket warm coin on edge into the dry ice . Dry ice is also a handy beverage cooler , room temp to frozen in minutes . Best to sit a can on it's side and roll constantly by hand for a minute or so , that's refreshment . Good luck , hope that helps , Strato . (Edited by Stratocloner at 5:54 am on Nov. 20, 2004)
I have to sort of agree and disagree with you Herbie bro. Grow conditions can have a vast effect on a plants yeild and potency IMO. Even with the shiznits seeds with all the extra works and perks in a grow room, if its not put together or done correctly, then both the yeild and potency can be greatly effected. Another large contributing factor to finished weed quality is drying/curing and handling proceedures. If these are all incorectly, or plainly just skipped and not worried about, then even the most potent qualtity buds can get to the consumer like scented horse ****. It would be quite the supprise to me if one was able to take a fully bashed around, over handled bag of weed, one in which all the trichs are left on the hands of all the past dealers it has travelled through, that was dried in the sun outside then jammed into big bags and sold purely for $$ value, and turn it into viable chronic!! My 42.5 cents anyways!!
I agree with ya Happy...guess what I mean is that you can't take a strain past its full potential. You can come up short however.
Taste can always be affected, and often times this can make the overall 'potency' appear better. I agree with both Herb and HJ.
