Jack Herer just sent me this...

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana' started by TheApprentice, Sep 21, 2007.

  1. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Jack is on my list of myspace buddies and im subscribed to his blogs,just thought id pass this on as he requested to all and any from califronia who this is of interest to medicinally.Cheers:smokin:

    New Hemp Farming Act Allows Only 0.3 percent THCBody: Why is THC so important to the hemp plant? And human race?

    THC is like a prophylactic. The bud is the sex organ that produces seed. THC coats it to protect it. The colder it is the more THC is produced. Stress produces THC. If you have a plant that is producing less than 8 percent you have holes in your condom. If you have 8 percent or more it will protect it.

    Beginning at about 42 degrees it will start producing more THC. When down to 32 or 34 degrees, there will be so much THC they will look almost like they’re covered with ice. It just gets thicker and thicker.

    How would an orange grow if you took off half its peel? As a farmer, you want to make sure you give that plant every chance to grow and be healthy.

    If there is 8 percent or more THC, they can survive outside below freezing with protection, like a plastic sheet over them.

    Jack Herer, Eddy Lepp, George Clayton Johnson, Michael Jolson, Ronnie Lee Smith

    P.S. Please help us get the word out about the California Cannabis Hemp & Health Initiative 2008. The proposed wording is on my profile.
     
  2. HappyHappyHighGuy

    HappyHappyHighGuy dreamer and misfit

    Is this saying that we should drop them temps down to FREEZING?
     
  3. jimmy the lizard

    jimmy the lizard Genius beginner!

    i know my afghani strain will turn purple an produce more trichs if i keep temps below 74 degrees at all times, but i didnt know that about resin an potency.


    the thing i want to know most is if yield will suffer at 73 degrees an below, an if so how much?
     
  4. Randy High

    Randy High Organic Alumni

    Gov. "I'll be back" will most likely veto this one as he did the last one.


    Why should California join the rest of the world in producing a natural fiber that help clean the air rather than pollute it?
     
  5. El Campesino

    El Campesino The Farmer

    i AM far from being a scientist. but I have to call into question basically every aspect of this statement.


    looks way more like a stoner's observsation rather than documented fact
     
  6. El Campesino

    El Campesino The Farmer

    I'm not sure exactly how much 73F translates to, but I see a drop off in growth that is quite noticable in the 20 to 22 C range.


    plants will continue to appear strong and vibrant down to 12 or 14 C but growth is significantly stunted at these temps.


    Still, I am opposed to making blanket statements about optimal growing temps as obviously different strains are adapted through evolution to perform better in certain situations....local Sativas here endure summer temps well over 40C. try that with an Indica.


    It has been overwhelmingly demonstrated to me that the vast majority of THC percentage and resinous traits are dictated by genetics. you will not stress a plant and increase THC%....you will not stress a plant and decrease THC%....that was determined when the pollen hit the stigma
     
  7. HappyHappyHighGuy

    HappyHappyHighGuy dreamer and misfit

    Arnold

    I saw an episode of Pimp My Ride where they did Arnold's Hummer. They told him the seats were made out of hemp and he said something like "I outlawed that stuff." It's really sad that even powerful leaders don't know the difference between industrial hemp and the cannabis we smoke.
     
  8. HappyHappyHighGuy

    HappyHappyHighGuy dreamer and misfit

    Maybe someone should see if this works by putting a plant in the fridge, but it ain't gonna be me.
     
  9. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    It is from the GENUINE J.Herer.Check him out on myspace,i get daily blogs from him..

    I dont know El-C,all i can do is pass it on.I am added as one of Jack Herer's 'buddies' on myspace(it IS him,not an imposter as far as i know) and i get daily updates on his latest blogs,i got this one today saying PLEASE PASS THIS ON,its summit to do with Californian Medical Laws..


    :stop: Basically from what i gather ,they want to start giving MJ medicinal users MJ with decreased levels of THC which of course will stop the stone but still work medicianlly in which case if this gets passed a lot of med users are gonna be not getting high as much legally.Just goto myspace guys and search for Jack Herer to read and watch his videos and other stuff,Jorge Cervantes and others also have their own myspace accounts which im subscribed to,just thought id best pass on in case this new ruling will affect any of you medicinal users.Peace:smokin:
     
  10. El Campesino

    El Campesino The Farmer

    I know you're just passing it along.


    first thing is I think he is talking about hemp farming which is not even the same animal as med mj.


    if there were only .3% THC I can't possibly see what medical use there could be for it as it is no longer MJ, but hemp.


    I don't know who jack herer is or what his level of mj testing sophistication is, but I can guarantee you that plants will not grow at 0C....I've never tested this to know as a fact, but I'm willing to bet on it. I do not believe that any mj plant will produce any visible growth at temps below 10C


    I can also assure you that THC is determined by genetic factors far far far and above any influence from environmental conditions


    Again, JMO, but I would argue against the suggestion that THC is produced to protect the seed (lika a prophylactic?????) anyway, my thinking is that the THC is to get us humans to propogate the species throughout our entire habitat
     
  11. HappyHappyHighGuy

    HappyHappyHighGuy dreamer and misfit

    Smokin' his namesake


    Yeah man, maybe Jack Herer was tokin' Jack Herer when he wrote that. He says he medicates morning, noon and night


    :potleaf::potleaf::potleaf::potleaf::potleaf:


    :potleaf: :hippy2: :potleaf:


    :potleaf::potleaf::potleaf::potleaf::potleaf:
     
  12. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    I honestly dont FULLY understand what he says but it dont sound like good news..

    Oh i dont doubt for a second El-C that what you say is true,etc.TBH i didnt fully understand the argument in the context he blogged it,etc.I know you know your stuff when it comes to MJ cultivation ,etc.


    Jack Herer is well known in marijuana circles,well if you buy and read books,etc.He has written some great books,not just on how to grow but delving deeper into WHY hemp is illegal.Hey hes even had a strain named after him,lol,and BTW its actually a pretty decent strain although im sure i read on his site that he had no input into the making of the strain,i think some breeders just put together a few strains that Jack had judged winners of the cc cup in Amsterdam and named it after him,all the same its a great smoke!Hes actually a pretty cool guy El-C,very proactive in is efforts to legalize Hemp(he never likes to call it MJ iv noticed) and a wise old sould for sure,even though none of us are quite sure what hes talkin about here:roll:Check out his myspace profile and blog to find out all about him and his pro MJ stance,etc.Cheers:potleaf:
     
  13. Seeking Utopia

    Seeking Utopia Cleaning Scissors

    Herer's thoughts


    I believe what Mr. Herer is saying here is that currently industrial hemp is classified as having less than 1% THC. Recent legislation is now calling for maximum THC exhibited at .3% or less to qualify as industrial hemp. Herer is pointing out the fact that by lowering the allowed THC, they are limiting the climates industrial hemp could be grown. In theory mind you, if industrial hemp grown for certified seed could rate 8% THC, it could be grown in MOST climates worldwide. There's alot more into this if anyone is interested...


    Cheers!


    Seeking Utopia
     
  14. Cannagirl

    Cannagirl Preheat to 420

    El C I grew my first plant in the dead of winter where it was between 35-50 most of the time. That plant did excellent. In my gallery there are many pics so I don't think I need to post any more, already have many times. But yes, plants will grow at lower temps. You said below 10c.....I believe that is 50f right? My plant was below 50f at least 2/3 of the time and it's been the biggest most frostiest plant I have grown to date. It was inside a shed. The shed wasn't insullated (sp?) but it was away from wind. It was still very cold in there, just no wind chill. It probly wouldn't have done so well if it had been outside with the wind and rain. But inside still with really cold temps, it did really great.
     
  15. El Campesino

    El Campesino The Farmer

    i LIVED in Toluca for a couple of years. elevation approx 9,000ft.had a greenhouse on my roof. grew there year round. better said, I flowered there year round, had to veg under lights to get any size to them. plants that were left full time from seed in the GH got about 12 to 15 inches tall and yielded a few grams each.december and january temps never made it over 15C during the day and dropped down to around 5C during the nights.plants harvested during this time were about half the size of summer or spring harvests. mid winter you are going to be growing with 12 hour light cycles so there is no way to compare such a plant to others grown in a warmer season. maybe the 10C wasn't the number I was looking for, but plants are severely stunted at these temps. highly doubt growing a descent plant at 35F.I've found that seeds rarely sprout when temps are much below 17C stands to reason growth will also become impaired at those levels.I looked through your gallery and couldn't find anything that resembled outdoor plants and the one you have labled as your first plant is indoor. obviously can't use an outdoor temperature as a reference when you have at least a semi controlled environment....at least when the lights are on your temps HAVE to be above 70F?????I'm talking a glass GH with the temp references I'm using.

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  16. Cannagirl

    Cannagirl Preheat to 420

    I didn't have a therm....just going by temps outside. I had the lights on during the day for security because you could tell when the lights were on. At night it was just a thin shed and the temps would have been in the 40s most of the time, 30s as well. During the middle part of the day the temps were probly like 50-60. Morn and eve were around 45-50. It was a particularly cold and rainy year that year. I don't have pics of the outside shed....but it was just a thin crappy one type.
     
  17. El Campesino

    El Campesino The Farmer

    yEAH, but I do know where you're coming from.


    she's a very hardy plant, but when temps are below 50 at the warmest and then dipping to freezing, growth is severely stunted....but, agreed they will still grow.


    that light warmth makes all the difference in the world, get yourself some pretty colors with the big temperature drops a lot of the time which is always a plus.


    I guess the claim is about 78F is optimal growing??


    well, 50F would be 28 less....106F would be 28 more...not that it means much, but we are getting into extreme ranges either direction.


    I had so much trouble with shit at those temps...PM most noticably...least the insects couldn't deal with the weather.


    even indoors in my closet grow, the temp would go from 85F lights on to 40F dark....maybe the thin air also had some effect???
     
  18. Randy High

    Randy High Organic Alumni

    I believe soil temps help.. The best plant I had this last season was in the coldest cornor of the box.


    So there is something to be said for cool soil temps IMO.
     
  19. Randy High

    Randy High Organic Alumni

    Hemp strains grow long stalks I understand.. Most of us avoid large internode space..


    Still I hope to get my picture taken in a Hemp field soon..


    Maybe we will lead the Nation ( USA ) in some sanity when it comes to this plant.


    On the flip side isn't it time to let Americans grow their own weed and keep the Mexican mafia out of our forests?
     
  20. jimmy the lizard

    jimmy the lizard Genius beginner!

    yeah, 20-22 C translates to about 73F meaning ya gotta give up some yield for purps, an maybe any other cool colors you might have seen in cannabis.
     

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