What do ya think? Finally some pics

Well Gk I got my digital camera to work and here is some pics of my organic sanctuary

I've just started 12/12 to sex my plants.

My room is 6 x 6 , walls made of 3mill plastic sheeting constructed in a "high" place. Simple ventalation and heating.

3 flouescent grow bulbs all different(i'll edit the wattages etc. later) and three cfls 2/150 1/75.

Everything is about 2 months old and right now better lights are not in the budget.

Beautiful! Please, be ladies.



And this here is a 2liter ebb and flow I just threw together and its thriving, although smaller than its neighbors and without any hydro nutes, it's much much thicker(the camera didnt like the light either). Well here it is GK. Give it to me.How is it for a first attempt? Iappreciate all comments. Thanx GK

 

looks like your moving along,hard to believe you got so much growth in 2 months with those tubes.i've seen it myself though.

 

Your plants look exactly like mine. What are you growing?

 

The potted ones look great!! try to get some light down past the canopy to the sides, flos do not penetrate well and the bottoms can sometimes suffer. Hat to say it but the ebb n flow one is hurting looks like a def, of N and maybe MG but its a hard pic to tell.

 

not sure what i'm growing just some higher grade bud that i only found a few seeds. and i thought the same on the ebb and flow but dont have the money for real nutes any suggestions on supplements for the "real" ones?

 

Well i started out with floro's also in the begining of my indoor. If you attempt to bud with those lights your gonna get virtually nothing in my opinion. The hydro is drooping really bad and looks really yellow but its possible that its the light. It doesnt look half bad but you put alot of effort into somthing thats possible you wont get much if any return on. Not bad at first try.. I'd focus on soil because hydro is expensive and theres alot to learn about it, its alot more complex than soil.. Anyway good luck just giving some constructive critisism.

 

just so you know- those CFL's are 150 and 75 watts nominal, they actually have wattages of 45 and 20 respectively. Plants look good but stretched a little. I recoment bumping up the wattage greatly before flowering, or you will most likely end up with puffy light bud, and not alot of it. It is reccomended that you have 50 watts per ft.sq.(true wattage). For a space that tall you should probably flower under HPS for better penetration.


Just trying to help out. They do look like they have recieved excellent care

 

thanx GK the lighting is bad in the pic for the hydro but it is a dark green . i'd love to go hps but its out of the budget right now.right now i seem to get alot of penetration in theunder the canopy but only since i added the cfl recently and they sit lower than my flouro's. i appreciate any and all criticism ,good or bad,and try to work in any of it that fits my budget and time. practice makes perfect, eventually.

 

Hey Fubar, not a bad start...I would actually pob loose the tubes all together and pic up some more cfl's for veggingyou can get a pretty decent yeild by upping your cfl I would say prob 4 or 5 more of the highest watt you can find I have seen true 150watt cfls, youd prob only need ywo or three of those to get ya by untill/If ya decide to switch to hid....lookin good so far, deff gonna want to check on that ebb, imo it deff needs some nute adjustment, what ph are ya keepin that at?

 

There are definately 150 CFL's out there, if anyone is looking for one I got an extra. I do not care for my 150. They but out only slightly more lumens than the 125's but tons more heat. I would suggest getting 2 125 CFL's from www.tech.com They run nice and cool, and will give you decent lighting.


I agree with gettingrid of the tubes and adding CFL's-You can go with 3-4 150 nominals (45 true) from wally-world, but then you will have heat issues to deal with due to multiple ballasts. However this can be cured with a couple $5 fans also from wal-mart.


It's your grow and your call, but I must say you will be wasting your time if you do not bump the light alot. Don't want to see you get discouraged because your first grow doesn't work out at all.


Peace

 

Hey grassmaster, the link you provided goes to some research site.


If i were going to buy CFl's with higher watts i would go through this place, http://www.1000bulbs.com/2-to-200-Watt-Compact-Fluorescent-Screw-In-Light-Bulbs/ , you can get a 150W full spec for $40. the 150W only come in mogul socketed bulbs, if you want something you can plug into a standard light socket the 105W bulbs are available with medium bases. They cost like $24.

 

HID.....Always a Great Idea.


No pro grower has time to flower with floros.

 

the cfl idea sounds great and is more in my budget. heat really isnt a problem with my ventilation i can pretty much adjust it anyway i want it. i can recall the ph off hand but its wrote down somewhere i'll dig it up and let you know. why ditch the flouro's and not just add 6-8( biggest i can find) more cfl's? would it hurt or do you just mean for the flowering?

 

what exactly is a mogul socket? i know it looks the same as a standard but is alot larger on the screw in part. how many volts is it? ive seen adapters for the mogul to make it into a standard socket . does it need a ballast is it 220. i'd like to know because their available i just dont have the time to research the specs

 

I was saying to ditch the tubes just for space/electricity....compared to the ammount of energy they use and the lumens they put out you'd be better off running the 125 cfl's inmy opinion you will also have less lights running (im assuming) on the same circuit, also less chords and shit to trip up on and get in your way...

 

for a first time hobby grower id reccomend spending the price you would spend on an ounce of kickass bud minimum on a setup (spending most of the money on lights.) around here that goes for 300 bucks, an sometimes more if its guaranteed bomb shit. you can at least break even when you harvest if you get an ounce, but hopefully youll get more. from there you can decide if you wanna invest more to grow more, or harvest more often etc., but at least youll have the basics for getting around an ounce paid for.

 

That's a good way to look at it. On my first grow I spent around $300 on equipment, seeds and electricity, but I got 6 ounces out of 3 plants. Well worth it!

 

damn!!!


if i could get that gross out of that investment, id be happy with any investment!

 

update


sorry no pics yet 8 days of flowering . ebb and flow a for sure female and one male so far. i was thinking of changing the ebb and flow back to soil because nutes ph etc just a little more than i can handle right now. any advice by the way more lights on the way and they are cfls i found out more about mogul bases some do require ballasts some dont can be 120v and 244v so far is what i have seen

 

just so ya'll know mogul and medium base are the same. A standard and edison are the same.


I tried the link, seems it no longer goes where it used to, shit, that was a great hook-up. I was planning on buying one of those 125's myself real soon. The best part was they were available to go into a mogul, or a standard base. That is the ONLY place I have ever seen 125's that fit a standard, and that would have been perfect to save a few inches (every mm counts in my spot).


Fubar- the bases do not determine if it needs a ballast or not, the bulb does. If it has it's own ballast, obviously you don't need one, but if the bulb is not self-ballasted, you DO need a ballast.Alsao I agree go back to soil for now. It takes enough to master soil growing (which I have not even come close to indoor yet) for a total beginner. Get soil down pretty good then you can start trying other methods.


So how about some pics, eh?