the lamp's distance is 50-60 cm from the tops, temperature on the tops is 24c-31c.. humidity from 35 to 55 and ph stable at 6.4. The strains are White Widow, Arjan Haze and California Orange Skunk. Ventilation has a good inflow from the street and the air goes out through a small bathroom fan on which I attached a carbon filter... more air comes in than it goes out I know that cause my growtent swells like a balloon and smell is not 100% filtered. I'll take some pics on Monday to show you the whole setup... And one last question... I every now and then cut off some light green colored shoots bellow the screen cause they never gonna make it to the light is it ok now that i'm 5 weeks into flowering or I keep dangerously stressing the plant???
hey dude, you have some healthy looking ladies there :thumbsup: About the distance of the light- I think 50-60cm is way too far away for a 400W, 30cm is a good distance as long as you have a fan blowing across the tops of the plants. So if ya can, drop that light a little
davillains man that sounds like a great setup . Ok now the 50 -60 cm is one of your problems you want to cut that in half use the back of your hand under your light when the back of your hand doesn't burn that is how close your plants can be. Your temps are a little high at 32c try to keep them at 24 c . Now your ph is 6.4 try to get it at 6.8. I think these couple of things will fatten your buds up maybe not tooo much this grow but the next. White-Widow is my Fav great yeild & buzz here is a picture of a W-W at 5 weeks from a old grow of mine.
Great work, so far bro, looking sweet! 6.4, BANG-ON practically, EASILY good setting/leveling for SOIL PH "IMO", try n keep it there bro...:thumbsup: 6.5 is what I PERSONALLY use mine at, but 6.4 is ALL GOOD also!!! :thumbsup: DEPENDS, But IMO, you'l be absalutely fine at 6.4, I ONLY prefer 6.5 for better UPTAKE, ONLY IMO though and from what I Personally have experienced! :jj: Keep up the Good work bro, looking sweeet, UrBigBuddie......... otleaf: :jj: :thumbsup:
cut fan leaves offa friend came to my garden and said I need to cut off any fan leaves that get in the way of light and the buds. practically 70% of fan leaves... in one go... is that ok ?? and basically says I should have done that already but it's never too late... what do you think ? we did trimmed some clones and a few branches from the plants and it looked cool .. light reached where never before. should I trim trim trim ? ? ? /monthly_2009_05/pinkshouldgo.jpg.5608b07c513747139def40ad53fa6ca2.jpg
This has to be the most prevelant growing myth there is. Dont do it. Its like destroying all the power generators in the world and wondering why your lights dont work.
I trimmed them fan leaves away. I dunno if I trimmed 100% of what should be trimmed off but I did a fairly nice job... now light reaches anywhere a bud is and I hope my white widows on it's last two weeks and something will fatten ... i'm thinking of doing a 10 day flush and next time I water i'll do check up on the trichs and let u know if it's amber cloudy or whatevah... my sativa on the back left has some more time to adjust to this new self. the clones look cool... i hope i did the right thing... the orange skunk on the back right is a tough girl... she's putting weight under any treatment... all those fan leaves... it certainly seemed like something was wrong with the setup...;lights worked only for the tops.... now i feel like light will do what it has to do... for every part of the plant. /monthly_2009_05/DSC00757.jpg.9ff12e73c1127a5db71a4bb711b10332.jpg /monthly_2009_05/DSC00759.jpg.b161147b00c54e3405b1e3cddf41e536.jpg /monthly_2009_05/DSC00760.jpg.f80f559469345db9298c01bcf291b9c8.jpg /monthly_2009_05/DSC00762.jpg.c8e12b5997d2c3469c7c0060b80d3b97.jpg /monthly_2009_05/DSC00765.jpg.7fc059a4b818e31bcf23488370cfad35.jpg
Dude, Did you miss what they said? YOU DON'T TRIM FAN LEAVES The fan leaf collects the majority of the sunlight for the bud its closest to basically. The leaves on the bud are shit compared to the fan leaves when you consider light catching and processing potential. Its better to trim and kill off all the under shit below the main canopy since light degrades by the square of the distance. Basically a bud that's 1 ft from the light gets 4x the light a bud 2ft from the light gets. If you're light isn't strong enough to penetrate, get a stronger light, not less fan laves. Tuck, bend, twist, don't cut.
Another hard head No don't means not to cut the fan leaves off. Why didn't you lower your light & your temps. Well I tried.
Why bother asking a question if you totally ignore the advice you've received, I know you're new to the site, but if Headcase and Skuzzi both tell you that you should/should not do something, do yourself a huge favor and LISTEN! They, along with a huge portion of GK member's, know their shit, your friend, sadly does not.
In addition to the suggestions already made, you should adjust your plant placement to even your canopy. You've got a good 12'' of height difference between your tallest and shortest cola's. Use your light as effeciently as you can.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!! That is toooo funny. NO!.....I did and it looks nice............... Nice try guys.
I appreciate all your inputs whether i follow them or not... i'm smooth with female population, i wouldn't hurt my girls... it just seem right to lessen some fan leaf mass from my setup... it's not like i brake some undeniable rule of nature ... we grow under lamps in grow tents for evils shake, that's not how nature works... i just want more bud, i don't care if it abides with cosmic balance, and i'll experiment a little to see what happens... even if i did it all wrong, there's still next grow to make it better. but anywayz .. thank you all... and i'm not a new member... i'm a yr 2004 member... respect
I know you're not new to the site, just new to growing. It's not an undeniable rule of nature, it's botanical fact. Fan leaves store nutrients, cutting off fan leaves takes away these nutrients. You say you want just want more bud, but cutting leaves off is detrimental to you total yeild. Tuck, train, pin, tie, bend....anything but cut them off. I like to take two fan leaves and hook them together so they only take up the room of one. But what do I know?
Your not new but you don't know too much...you have a lot of reading to do the last thing you want to do is cut all the fan leaves off that's the biggest mistake you can make when your in flowering stages.....You just stressed those babies out huge your yield will suffer and you may see some herm activity and maybe some stress induced seed. Tuck leaves out of the way manipulate the plant move them around to get the best light distro....if your having a problem with over crowding then you need to grow less plants not mutilate the ones you got....less or smaller plants or get a bigger grow tent/room....... NEVER CUT FAN LEAVES!
yes i've done all that through veg and 5 weeks into flowering ... i didn't touch anything...bending, tucking, tie things together and all that... now that i'm week 6 with 2 weeks left I think letting some light reach where it wouldn't otherwise is not a bad thing... i went over to check them today and they look happy and frosty... i read some things on trimming and it's still an open debate, depending on the setup if trimming helps or not... lower buds that had a pale light green color without any white hairs on them last sunday now they are green with hairs and look healthy and promising... thanks for your concern though... it's really amazing how people can argue over some leafy girls...
Yea but the starch and everything else is stored in the leaves. There are still some chloroplast in the buds but nothing like the leaves. Lets look at it this way. You cutting leaves on the plant that are healthy is like removing or reducing the number of solar panels running a house. *For this example the house is ran solely by solar power* Sure with reduced numbers of panels you are still generating power, but now it's not matched to providing the energy requirements. Because of limiting the energy available to the house(the plant) by reducing the number of solar panels(leaves) providing energy to it, the amount of work the house(plant) can do is now limited by the available energy. Can't use 2Kw steadily if you are only able to add 1Kw to the grid every hour. Basically you just turned down the speed of your production line. If you trimmed the lowers on your plant you wouldn't have to open anything up to get the lower buds. That's why most of us trim at the low end of the lights penetration. Only reason you are seeing them look greener is just because there is more light there now and the nitrogen that was being shuttled around the plant and stored in the roots is now going to the bud sites. So don't be surprised if the smoke is kinda harsh. Might want to run a ~18-21 day flush.
