ph needs to be in ranges where all nutrients are available at specific times durring the grow...to tell a newb to keep it low is only hurting him... you really need to research this if you want to perfect the art. ph is the most commonly misdiagnosed problem. anytime you take peeps advice you dont know really well and have reason to trust ur setting urself up for questionable results. if the problem in the first place was putting too much garbage in ur pots, adding more is only going to muss things up and make for more confusion, wich is something a first timer doesnt need. establish what the problem is for yourself. id suggest looking into nutrient defficiencies, lockout, and ph problems to understand what caused the situation ur in. while ur doing that flush ur plant with 5-7 times the pot volume with clean ph'd water. then feed 1/4 to 1/2 strength, and increase from there. you shouldnt need to feed but once a week or less. watering may be more often. there will be a rebound period so dont expect things to change over night. be sure to check ur pot water content by weight not by surface moisture. repot frequently as possible. and i agree w who ever said not to feed bloom food durring veg. i would really suggest sitting down with a few days worth of weed and read through all the FAQ pages...see my signature... dont take my word for it...Google it Happy Growin'
Word ^^ As hard a time as I have to figure out what your trying to say sometimes GG, I had no problem deciphering that post. +rep Ive said it before and Ill say it again. I dont care who agrees with me on this one. Yes there are many aspects to perfect about growing to get the best results, but I still maintain the absolute foremost aspect of growing ANYTHING is to maintain a proper pH. Without ensuring what your mediums pH is and what pH your nutrients are mixed at, most any diagnosis will be a guessing game. ALWAYS KEEP TRACK OF YOUR PH!!
Goblin you just think you're so fuckin' smart. You kinda remind me of this dude who taught me the very basics of exhaust and intake and gave me an exhaust fan and an air-cooled hood thus improving my growing by a magnitude of 10. Yeah man. You and that dude. You both think you're so fuckin smart. You got some fuckin nerve man. :rofl6:
just wait till they find out im just a 16 yr old sitting at my mommys table reposting shit from wikipedia...while growing weed in paper cups of miracle grow on a windowsill i dont know that i can stay pissed off to remain coherent for long...my bro is pissed now that im moving out...even though he told me yesterday he doesnt need me here...gee why would i want to move out...anybody wanna live on a rollercoaster? its fun i swear! the only time i try to make sense is when im not figuring out how to make myself laugh...which rarely happens if ur confused...try to find the funny init...itll be there i promise kinda like dafodils on the doorstep, in a hearse driving by on a moonlit night sort of way...or maybe it was the rolling stones and coffee that did it...either way i found my pajamas... :bong-2: .... :F-A-Q:
I never check PH anymore. There's something about the Willamette Valley that keeps the PH about 6.8. The water is 6.8. The soil is 6.8. My potted plants are 6.8. The only time it fell to 6.3 was when I started growing weed. I over fertilized, and the PH dropped. All I do is feed them. I might add a little oyster shells, or bone meal, but I don't think It's nessesary, not here anyway.They grow like trees here. peace G_B
Awesome. I picked up a PH tester and see that the plain tap water i am using is out of range (at over 7). Now that I will be correcting the PH levels, will the lockout automatically be corrected or should I be adding something more to that? Thanks again everyone!
You should read FAQ. This is from RandyHigh in FAQ. I use all organic, so I never mess with PH. I suggest that you do your research. If all the MODS promise to rep me, I would show you what the Willamette Valley can do without PH adjustment. (that includes Herb). What is PH? The pH scale takes its name from the words potential of hydrogen. It is a scale used to measure the acidity or alkalinity of a solution. The pH scale uses a range from 0 to 14, with 7.0 indicating neutrality. Numbers beginning at 7.0 and moving toward 0 indicate acidity, while the numbers beginning at 7.0 and moving toward 14 indicate alkalinity, so the scale divides acids from bases . We owe the concept of pH to Danish chemist S. P. L. Sørensen, who introduced it in 1909. Source : wisegeek.com/what-is-ph.htm PH is important to Organic growing in that we need to understand that nutrients may be unavailable to the plant if the range is too far acid or alkaline. If I remember correctly a good range is 6.5 to 6.8 for marijuana soils. In organic soils PH is less an immediate problem than it is in chemical grows. Biological process work things out to some degree; however, it's a good practice to keep an eye on it. Maybe even buffer some fertilizer solutions with a little lime or sulfur if they are too extreme. PH is lowered with Lime and raised with Sulfur. Again it's not a serious worry in a healthy soil using the natural products in a reasonable way. PH meters are sold to do this very thing. Less expensive meters are sold in Garden centers but remember not to touch the probe end. Keep it clean and it will work well. peace. G_B
So before I watered the 1 plant I made sure the PH was around 6.5. I also tested the runoff and that tested at around 6. Any idea why this is or how to increase that?
Ok so yall bitch..... And bitch.... About the pH and how we should worry. Well if you got organic soil, and $200 for Advanced Nutriens HP Perfect Liquid Fertilizers, you dont gonna check PH. check it out, it doesnt faill!!
I did spend good money for soil and nutrients. This is the soil I am using: http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/prod_big_oceanforpot.html These are the nutrients: http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/prod_big_trio_liqplnt.html
Don't do anything more until someone that knows what they are talking about helps you. If I remember right, that's fine, but I don't adjust my PH, so don't listen to me. I would need to research it again. You should research,too if you want to grow with the best. Read Read Read if you really want to know what your doing. peace. G_B
Ok soil.....mix your nutes in a jug or bucket or whatever you use.....let that mixed solution SIT for a few hours....6-8hr......then check your PH......if you need to get yourself a bottle of PH UP & PH DOWN, its an ACID and a BASE that will let you control your PH on your own... You will not get a correct reading if you mix nutes and check them immediatly, you must wait for the buffers to even out the minerals and such, which will even out the mix And leave out some tap water for your mixing, let it sit out a day to evap the chlorine......also, do not mix nutes, let them sit for days and expect them to still be good, they also evap remember
seriously bean...he isnt using all organic from the kitchen nutrients...thanx for explaining ph...but save these "you dont need to check ph" comments for your own threads...or for peeps who arent new to the game... drgreen, dollars payed has little or nothing to do with quality or ph characteristics of nutrients...if that were the case it would cost alot to compost ur food refuse... dont pay much attention to the runoff...just be sure ur ph is between the ranges after sitting and mixing...read the FAQ...pour your water and let sit over night...mix in ur nutes...let sit...check and adjust ph...let sit...check and ajd or use if itsw good...ull soon find ur pattern needed... municipal water supplies may have buffers...which is why u wanna let sit awhile between checking ph... "Now that I will be correcting the PH levels, will the lockout automatically be corrected or should I be adding something more to that?" A#1 it depends on whats causing ur nutrient problems and whether or not that issue has been rectified. do ur research.... A#2 if the problem in the first place was putting too much garbage in ur pots, adding more is only going to muss things up and make for more confusion, wich is something a first timer doesnt need. Happy Growin'
Thanks for the help man. So, Should I be checking the PH of the tap water I am giving them or just the PH of the water/nutrient mix? Of course I have a 10 gallon container that I let tap water sit in before using.
both...if ur feeding 6.5ph solution but ur watering with 7.5ph...things will be happening...other than maintaining a stable ph. .......... ........ ......... ........ ......... .......... ..... ..........
Thanks again everyone! I had not been checking PH at all and seemed fine until one day. I will give this all a shot and hope that will correct the problem (at least I can say it isnt getting any worse). I have some PH up but its for a fish tank. This shouldnt effect anything, right?
