When to start counting?

Ive been assuming that the first day I put the lights at 12/12 is day 1 of flowering. Thenb somebody here posted that Day 1 is when you first see bud formation. So...which is it?


Dixie

 

Well I count from the time I switch to 12/12. Most of my strains take between 8-12 weeks from 12/12 so I assumed it was right. If you are asking in reference as to when to start feeding flowering nutes, I start flowering nutes about 10-14 days from 12/12 after they finish their initial stretch period. Does that help?

 

That's how I do it too.:thumbs-up:

 

Yup As soon as 12/12 starts. So does the My Flower Calendar.

 

Does it really matter?

 

I think it does, especially due to the fact that we're sharing knowledge with new people on a forum.


A lot of newbies will expect to need to flower for between 8 and 12 weeks depending on the strain they grow, and buds can take up to about 3 weeks to start showing.


I for one don't have a scope, and I've only just discovered that the macro lens on my camera will give comparable results. Before that I was merely going to go by adding a week or so to the flowering period specified by the breeder while watching the pistils as best I could. Starting to count when the buds started showing on my Wonder Woman would've meant an additional 3 weeks.

 

Sometimes. It's nice to know approximately when you'll be making space for the next round.


+1 for first day of 12/12. If it were 2 weeks later when buds appear, then all those 8 week strains would be advertising as 6 week strains...and the handful of 6 week strains would claim to take only 4 weeks!

 

Day 1 of flower is the first day the plant is in flower.


Flowering requires 12/12 . . . so, that defines it pretty clearly to me.

 

That would be me that said for me, flowering starts when I see flowering (pistol begin).


So wouldn't the plant need time to adjust to 12/12? After all, when you first put it in 12/12 it's not flowering. Your forcing it to turn to flower mode, it's still vegging till it shows pistols. I would think it would take a little time just like re-vegging. All I know is when I see pistols, then start counting, the time line matches up much better.I know it shouldn't really matter since strains always have a three week spread so to speak, 7-9, 8-10, 9-12 or whatever, so I would think it's covered either way. Yours takes 10, mine 8.


But like spinkler said, his took almost 3 weeks to show flower, so I would say when he put it in 12/12, it wasn't flowering. For 3 weeks it was transitioning into flower.


Just my opinion and the way I count. What ever works for you, do it.

 

lol, Dixie.

Dam I must have had a big hit. lol:roffl:


I read your post, but for some unknown reason, I was thinking 24 hour difference. "should I count day 1 at the flip of the lights, or the next day." I don't know what I was thinking. dixie. Yeah, day 1 is at the flip of the light.


Some people spray their plants up to 14 days after the first sight of bud formation.


So Dixie, who on here do we need to show where the FAQ lounge is.:alien11: LOL:kidding:


peace.


G_B

 

Are you saying, if a plant takes 10 weeks to bud, you bud it for 8?


peace.


G_B

 

Ras---everything you say helps! No I wasnt asking about nutes, but Ive been switching to flower nutes immediately upon changing to 12/12---so your reply taught me yet one more thing I didnt know. Thanks--you da man, man.

 

AMEN! Makes a HUGE difference. Thanks


Dix

 

Yeah...I think...but he doesnt start counting til agter the fiurst couple weeks. So it still works out.


LOL! OK, I get it! It aint over til the Fat Bud sings, regardless of the time line.


Thanks, all.


Dixie

 

Nope. I'm saying I start to count when I see hairs. 8 weeks is 8 weeks. I cut when the trichs are anywhere from 1/3 amber to more.If the strain says 8-10 weeks, mine might take 8 weeks from my count, yours might take ten. If you count from 12/12 it may take ten to be at the same point. Look, it really doesn't matter. If we started at the same time germing, then vegging, then put them in 12/12 at the same time and you start counting right away and my pistols don't show for 2 weeks and I start my count then and everythings equal, lights-feeding-temp,we'll probably take them out at the same time. Just one will count ten, the other eight. It's really no big deal. Even if your keeping track for your next batch and you haven't grown that strain before, you still can't be sure if it'll be 8 or more.You could look at 8 when you planned on them being done and the trichs won't be at where you want.

 

For the first 10-14 days after flipping the switch to 12/12 the pants go into the FIRST STAGE of flowering which is to stretch in order to maximize their bud sites. All strains and varieties of MJ do this to varying degrees. Just because it's not forming bud clusters yet doesn't mean the flowering stage has not begun. :thumbs-up:

 

Yep :thumbs-up:


For me, Day 1 is the first 12 hour light period.

 

You also grow outdoors. When would you start your count? When you put them out? I'm sure you wait till you see pistols.That's when the flowering starts,imo. I'm sure they would say the seed finishes 8 weeks after 12/12 but they say 8 weeks flower. Now I'm just playing Devil's advocate. It isn't flowering till it's flowering.It has to go into a transition phase. I know, I'm a trouble maker and don't assume what they mean, I take what they say as to what they mean. Why reinterpit it?

 

You ever notice that when breeders list the harvest times for a strain it will say 8-10 weeks indoors and beginning of October outdoors. Usually they give a month rather than a specific number of weeks outdoors cuz you don't flip a switch outdoors, the days gradually begin to shorten until they reach 12/12 so of course the onset of flowering (the first stage) takes longer outdoors. You are comparing apples to oranges there, yeah they are both fruit but they are 2 different kinds, just like indoors and outdoors have some similarities but are still different in many ways.

 

I believe it was MrGJ's who told me that seed vendors don't count the first wk. of 12/12. Their 8-10 wks. would then be 9-11 for those counting from the moment you switch to 12/12.


Either way, it's only giving you an est. time of finish.


The chop comes down to the trichs and your preference re: same.