Come on what's everybodys thoughts on what's happen over there. I could give a shit less about it . You know what they say what happens over in Egypt stays in Egypt. or is that Las Vegas. Anyway what does piss me off is these fuckers protesting over here go buy a plane ticket & go to Egypt & protest all you want. We don't need to hear your shit we have our own problems. Just my 2 cents & you can put that towards your Air Fare-Bud
Grab a piece from Rand Paul and simply cut off ALL foreign aid to everybody. It's hard for Egyptian populace to take the U.S. saying we're serious about supporting change when we've given billions of $$ in aid to the current regime. When they look up they see US manufactured military aircraft, when they face down the government in the streets they see US made tanks and weaponry being used against them.
You think it was only the Shah in Iran and Noriega in Panama? Fuck, we prop up these arseholes because it gives the U.S. leverage. It's twisted as all fuck! Ever read those facts on drunk driving? You know, the ones where they say for every time a drunk gets caught they've driven drunk a 100 times before or some such shit? Apply that same reasoning to our government's illicit involvement in other countries. Chinese $$ finding their way to Clinton campaigns back in the day? Peanuts when compared to how our government interacts in sovereign elections of other countries. Egypt? We're in up to our arseholes, that's why we're hearing about this one. The U.S. has been giving both Egypt and Jordan handjobs under the table for decades (of course in the case of the Queen bitch of Jordan I can give nodding acknowledgement to the temptation.) to keep allies sympathetic to Israel's existence. Keep watching....my guess is that this is only the tip of the iceberg.
i am nutz... that being said i hope they all war eachother to pieces id like to see a nuke blow up in my lifetime. and i hope no innocents are hurt in the process(wishful thinking) being so removed, i dont fully understand the situation but does seem pretty obvious that our govt is manipulating alot of these situations as they unfold. holy warz perpetuated...illuminatus propogandi
It is happening in Tunisia, Egypt, Yeman, Jordan, and starting in some other places. If you read the news everyday, there is just as much coverage of the others as Egypt had in the beginning, but Tunisia is through the worst of it, and the rest haven't gotten to that point yet. I fucking APPLAUD THEM ALL. If you don't give a fuck, fine. But this is a moment in history where several countries are doing EXACTLY what we did hundreds of years ago. I agree cutting aid to other countries would help us a lot. But, the money given to Egypt didn't really prop up a government, it bought us stability by playing nice with a guy who wasn't an extremist.
More-or-less, my sentiments eaxactly LL. We have no idea (very little) of what goes on behind the scenes.
I have been following this shit pretty closely. I love how that blindsided the "front office " One fucker sets himself on fire in Tunisia and the Egyptian people go off. Israel is shitting a collective brick cause their entire border with Egypt is not fenced off. Plus, their encirclement of the Palestinians could go to hell without an assured blockade on the Egypt side. Another thing that made me chuckle was that ya-hoo Khameni spouting off in Iran about how this is an Islamic revolution. The Egyptians said "Fuck you, this is a Peoples revolution !" Now, just to see how quickly the shit heads in Washington try to get a replacement puppet in place or try to co-opt whoever takes the helm. Additional rumbles happening in Jordan, Syria and Yemen. Gonna be interesting to see how all this plays out. BBT
I honestly think the White House is talking to the military more than anyone. As much as it is a bit of a foreign concept, some good democracies have come from military backed governments. And yah, certainly not an Islamic revolution, which could be a concern. The Muslim Brotherhood opposition group (who right now are basically split 50/50 conservative and liberal) didn't even get involved until this past week. It was mostly young people who led this one.
Amazing how much press this shit gets, acutally wait, its not. People are like oh its poppin off over there. You know where it pops off every effing day? Afghanistan, and you aint hear shit in the news about that. Fucking media.
I generally use Yahoo news to go through the different sources every day. There are just as many stories on Afghanistan and Iraq as the Egypt uprising.
Like the AP, Reuters, Time, BBC, Christian Science Monitor, NPR, etc......yah...no one reads those sources at all. :bong-2:
we are blue collar, not middle class....the middle class doesnt exist any more. now its the no colar lower class, the blue collar lower class asnd the white collar lower class and the upper class when i moved over here in 1793, i did so to get away from the social class bullshit, and here it is all over again. imortality is a bitch.
The problem as I see it At the end of the day I think that the fact that we give SOOOO much aid and preferential treatment to Israel is what the core of the Middle East problems start. We give aid and use intelligence assets and political capital to set up and maintain friendly governments or to maintain semi-safe conditions for the Israeli's that we have little time or resources to do much else. We cannot truely engage the people of that neighborhood no matter what country that we're dealing with because before we can talk about anything else we must first discuss what's best for the state of Israel and then work outward from that premise. It's highly insulting and unfair to everyone else in the game and that's why most of them would just rather not play if the U.S. or Isreal is involved and that is not a good place to be in the hearts and minds of the population if you hope to achieve somthing positive for ALL parties involved and not just one player. In the late 40's (I think '47) the Israeli's basically TOOK by force of arms land from the local inhabitants of areas of Palistine that roughly made up the boundaries of the ancient kingdoms of Judea and Israel. There was no organized nation/state in the area, just a bunch of Palistenian tribes of arabs mostly. Now so far none of this is bad in my opinion because the law of the day was that if you had the guns and the balls and there is no organized military force to oppose you then you've got yourself a nation/state. I don't think that the U.N. was around yet. The Jews had and are still persecuted and had been scattered as Diaspora without a homeland for centuries and I support the idea of them wanting their own homeland so that there is at least one place on earth that they can go and not be discriminated against. I get that. But just like they took that land in the '47 Wars by force of arms they should be able to keep it by force of arms without being propped up by the U.S.. And at the very least if they want to recieve our support they could be more in support of a 2 State Solution to the problem that they created with the birth of their nation/state.
The younger crowd in the Middle East are sick and tired of dictators. They also don't want to be ruled by an oppressive Islamic Republic. They want FREEDOM pure and simple, and they are willing to risk their lives to get it. It is time for the people of the world to take to the streets and oppose big government everywhere!
"there were 7 rulers of the 7 kingdoms and then there was one..." what are we down to over there? revolt on freedom fighters! lets get a global revolt going eliminating the governements of the world returning us to a free society from before the industrial revolution...be like in the postman...or waterworld...survival of the fittest... the union labor revolts have begun over here, pretty soon the dollars gonna be worth nothing and well have 50% of the population unemployed even though they only report 11-15%...just in time for gas prices to catch up with europe...our debt to sink us, and the iceage to take hold...and the ring of fire to erupt...gonna be an interesting cuple years... :flyy:
