wTF??? I typed out the most amazing reply last night while blazed on Haze hash and didn't hit submit? AAaaaaaaaagh. In short, it was a complete footnoted dissertation on why I'm right and everybody else is wrong. So take that! Hmmmmmmm, lacks a little punch without the actual post. Sticky- you'd be incorrect in your assumption. Astro- not discounting anything, just not sold and have legitimate concerns over the science, the movement, the hype and what the real effects of radically altering Western economies to fix something that may be largely unfixable could be. The other thing is that right now we U.S. folk have a government imploding under the pressure of debt, mismanagement, cronyism and two wars. I'm fighting for the next few years at the moment. All that other crap will have to wait. One last rather esoteric thought. Isn't it rather vainglorious of us to think that our eventual eradication from the planet is a bad thing? Sucks for us, but isn't eventual extinction or physical adaptation part the natural cycle of organisms? So humankind outstripping it's environment is really just another extension of the natural order. Good for the planet, bad for the species.
Actually it was o2 levels that were higher. That is why Giant insects were able to grow to the sizes they did. I just watched a documentary on the subject. Not to say that there wasn't a time in which Co2 levels weren't raised. The Cretaceous period is when the dinosaurs came to rise and fall and during this time it is believed there was a much higher concentration of Oxygen in our atmosphere. I agree.... I think I heard Joe Rogan say once that if we are a Natural being and part of the natural world, them how can anyone say that anything the human race is doing, has done, or will do is not natural. Perhaps it is all part of the natural cycle. Maybe it will lead to our evolution as a species, maybe it will lead to our destruction. Only time will tell.
Could it be... ...I agree with the theme present here in this thread...that something seems to be going on with our weather and its effects on us all thru trickle down economics... ...I plant'd 2 sour diesel beans on May 12th...and one pop'd up barely on the 19th, the day b4 I left for Denver (fri 20th) ...to see U2 play at Mile High Stadium on Sat. May 21st...btw, outstanding show!(even better where the encore didn't end up being the "end of the world")...lmao...The one I speak of had barely broke dirt with the bean shell still around the cotyledon(sp?)...so I have been around this block b4,...so I decided to let it go, and fend for itself...if it was meant to grow...it will grow...keep in mind that I had two beans plant'd, so where the one was up barely, I thought well surely the other one if it is viable is close behind, so I start'd to scratch the surface, and down 'bout an 1/8th of an inch...I could see a bean that was doing what it is s'posed to...so I cover'd it back up and left for my u2 concert weekend... ...When I arrived home Sunday night...I went to check on my two beans...and hip-hip...I was like yes...both were over an inch tall, and the one had bust'd out of its football helmet(bean shell)...lol...so I have two sour diesel kids under way...May 23 mark'd day 1 veg...18/6...and now that I know how to clone...well, that's where the parallel with this thread comes into play...if I get this right...I'll be a force to be reckon'd with...just like this crazy weather we have all been witnessing...I'll feel the earth move under my feet...I 'll feel the sky...'cuz I can touch it...yes, I'm cheating gravity...it's how I roll...:alienwink: ...DC...:XXsunsmile::new_scatter:
I expect the planet is kinda like a self-cleaning oven...every 30, 000 years or so, it purges itself and starts all over again. FAIC, once our garbage started polluting the oceans, it was all over. We're Guests at Mother Nature's house....and when we disrespect our Hostess by dumping our plastic crap into her Oceans, which IS our very lifeblood....She said, "Really? FUCK YOU. GET OUT!" I dont blame Her-- there's just too damn many of us, making too big a mess, crowding out other life forms who are just as precious as we are....so, it's Time for the Earth to lose half, 3/4 of the human vermin crawling around on Her. She aint even got cranked up good yet...wait til the volcanoes start going off all at once. Then, it's "adios, Mutherfuckers". Yellowstone blows....? kiss yer ass goodbye, America. Dix
I have some good pics. of an unheard of tornado in NE PA (born and raised/M&D still there). One did touch down about 20 yrs. ago, maybe 20 miles from my house. That one took out a few acres of forest; not a house anywhere close. With our hills and valleys, a tornado of any size is ALMOST impossible. I strongly belive our climate is changing drastically and not simply 'cycle'. I'll try to get them up by tomorrow afternoon. I can see why you got the hell out of Dodge, T! F that!!!
Point of touch down used to be all trees with no view of the skyline house to the right that was unscathed from my friends yard across the road After crossing the road, it went around friend's business and his mom's house, did a u-turn between house and barn-sized garage, and headed the other direction and up the side of the hill point of u-turn; back road closed for yrs. now notice the sm.tree/lg. branch planted at the top at this point, it crossed the hill and touched down on the HIGHway a direct hit on an old (can't remember the exact date, but late 1700's) hotel I used to drink in as a young man this was the original HIGHway for horese/wagon befor they differted/widened down below I stopped about 50 yrds. away and say to an old dude "you're lucky"! He's like "why"? I point at his 'house'. A fucking trailer! there was a family on the 2nd. floor at the time direct hit. entire roof gone across the road; apparenty road still impassable I'll go back next wk. I hope you like. In recorded history, this has never happened around here, so I'm in awe; too many hills and valleys. The Army occassionally uses the route of the HIGHway for practice runs with the nearby A-10s
"At no other time in Human history have there been this many people alive on the Earth nor have we ever before in history burned as many fossil fuels or cut down forests at the rate at which we are doing it now." i'd put money down against this assumption. didnt you see the matrix? this is round 7 i think we are a virus, planet earth needs to take herself some anti-sapiens.
:thumbs-up: This is why I like you..... crazy pics, astro. You always hear from locals "we don't have to worry about ____ here...." Yeah? what the fuck you gonna do when it actually happens? Nothing is predictable. GTWT :XXhippylove:
All kinds of things are predictable. Everything in the universe is cyclic-- It's easy to notice those events that occur in "short" cycles. Harder to notice/record/keep record of those events that are LONG cycled. For instance, if there were a cycle of 30 years for a noticble increase in tornados, we'd know it--we'd have seen and recorded many 30 year cycles. If, on the other hand the "super Tornado" cycle is every 1000 years, well, nobody wrote in down. The point is everything in Nature is cyclic. Therefore, everything IS predictable--if you have knowledge of the cycle of any given event. Another thing that is absolutely predictable is entropy. Whatever is happenning is likely to KEEP happenning until another force comes in to change or alter that continuation. A ball rolling across the floor will keep rolling until it hits the couch...or gravity stops it. A still ball will never move UNTIL somebody kicks it. It aint gonna move on it's own. Besides for entropy and the Cyclic nature of all events, like Stephen Kings says, "Everything's eventual". Everything that can happen, sooner or later, will happen. At this time, there is a noticable increase in violent weather. Doesnt matter what "caused" it. That is IS happenning is all that matters and the question is, WHAT event/action will stop, let alone reverse this entropic trend? Because everything is cyclic, eventually the trend will gradually diminish, just as it gradually increased. I dont know "when", you dont know when and nobody else knows when. But it is, damn well, predictable. Everything is eventual. That includes the demise of life as we have known it as well as the eventual return of something very similar. It's cyclic. Prdictable. The only missing piece is the "when" of these events and the length of time between one and the other, in this case, the demise and return. If the Violent Weather Cycle is short....say every 3-5 hundred years and lasts 10 years, it's a pain in every ass but it's managable. On the other hand, if it's a every 10,000 year thing and escalates for 50 years before levelling off and takes another 50 to return to "normal", a relative very few will survive it. How MUCH hotter can it get, for instance? At what temp can a mammal simply not survive? (Or the other way--how cold?) But...it aint just the weather. In every aspect of Life, what is NOT going from OK to bad to worse? Seriously, where on the globe is there peace and prosperity? Where are things "normal"? Who is not looking around and saying, "Man....Ive NEVER seen shit THIS fucked up"? Younger folks, say people born in the 80's have never even experienced the "normal" we Baby Boomers knew. Believe it or not, there was a time when you could look for a job two or three days and find one, for instance. Everybody who wanted to work had a job. The Economy was solid. America was solid. Going back to the 50's, life in America was great---if you were a white male, LOL. Not so great if you were Black or a woman but those issues were taken on and changed in the 60's-70's. Those years were a Renaisance--incredible strides were made in every field of Human Rights. A time of actual Progress. The only "progress" since has been in technology. Big whoop. Everything else is slifing away, and "normal" has left the building. Entropy. Once the dominoes start falling over....what stops them? Dix
Wow....someone over 60 who thinks things were better back in the day and that the youngster don't know about it......never heard that one before. The world is as it has always been. All that has changed is the way we do things. It used to be you walked every where, then a horse, then a car, then a plane. You used to have to catch, kill, butcher, and cook your own meat. Now someone else raises it and brings it to your table. Nothing has changed in the world when it comes to human nature, only the methods we use to interact with the world.
