Lazy Men

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  1. jr215

    jr215 Caged hippie

    Believe me, Ras is nothing like that guy. He wouldn't ask for a handout. He does more for his friends and neighbors that most people I know. He and his wife would give you their last ten cents if you needed it. Change the channel. Find someone else to compare him to. I used to be Ras's lead at work several years ago and I can tell you he busts ass. He did clean work that always passed QC and made customers happy. The stereotypes you guys are assuming he fits into are way off base. His lifestyle is HIS lifestyle and he's not infringing on anyone else's.
     
  2. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    So someone loses a ob cos the plant shuts down.Hes in a one job town but worked all his days,got kids,got pride and some dignity. Now has to piss test like a junkie every time he needs to cash a welfare cheque. And the severe fucked up ness of this mentality stems from... " If i need to piss test to prove im not on drugs to work then so should they". Or maybe,no employer should have the right to piss test people period? These fuckers take away peoples rights in THIS way. Hit the workers first and they'll eat anyone under them in the foodchain. Meanwhile the govt stand back laughing cos while you guys are in an outrage about some bird in the projects with a crack habit and 4 kids the banks are BEGGING. Saying they cant pay their bills and need the PEOPLE to bail them out?? WTF is that shit? These guys earn more in a year than we do in a lifetime and they STILL fuck up.And when they do you guys bail them out and you aim your anger at the guys underneath you? Not everyone is abusing your system.I dont live there and i know that. Its right wing bullshit:2c:http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3vgt96/ whitehouse.gif

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  3. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    whos comparing JR??? See I thought Ras was basically calling me an asshole because I don't agree with people sitting on their ass ad getting paid for doing nothing. I never compared Ras to anyone, I posted that vid cause it was on the news last night and this is EXACTLY who I think is a piece of shit. WTF should I bust my ass so this guy can eat lobster and drink all day? Explain that to me, do oyu think it would be fair if you had to give 30% of your harvest to someone because they didn't feel like growing, or didn't want to buy any? Would you be cool with that?


    You got this shit in your head about Ras...I never said shit except the same as I said before he chimed in and after to TA about people milking the system.


    I never said Ras was anything like that, don't even know his background, nor does it matter like I said. It's the people that pop out kids and don't name daddy so they can get extra money from the gov while daddy is living there illegally, and then claim their kids have learning problems for even more money, then the earned income credit, I can go on and on.....and then the people like the POS in the video that just doesn't want to work.


    You honestly think I'm out of line for saying that lifestyle (because it is a lifestyle) is wrong? Seriously? You're ok with people not contributing shit to society and just take, take, take and making the rest of us work harder so they can be lazy bums? I aint cool with that at all. I have no problems helping people out, but it's like the whole give a man a fish and he eat for a day, teach him to fish he'll eat for life.....well I'm tired of giving out fish, I'll show anyone how to fish but it requires a little sweat along the way....but I'm tired of giving free fish out
     
  4. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    Jesus did that shit all day long nip:tvlaugh: Of course he was a socialist though:smoke2:
     
  5. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    It costs more than it saves to do that. You gonna pay the difference?


    "Of the 4,086 applicants who scheduled drug tests while the law was enforced, 108 people, or 2.6 percent, failed, most often testing positive for marijuana."


    "The state’s net loss? $45,780.


    "That’s not counting attorneys and court fees and the thousands of hours of staff time it took to implement this policy," Newton said."


    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/20/2758871/floridas-welfare-drug-tests-cost.html


    Personally, I'm offended by the very idea of drug testing. I feel that requiring someone to surrender their bodily fluids is a violation of the natural right to sovereignty over one's own body. The funny thing is - You have to give it up to get a job, and people are fighting to make it so you have to give it up if you can't find a job either. In either situation, employed or unemployed, they want you to surrender your bodily fluid. Urine now, next will be blood. Step by step, ever more invasive procedures and policies will be brought out, and the people that should have a clue and be fighting against this kind of fucked up shit have mostly been convinced that it's a great idea.






     
  6. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    Dude, you are pretty much reading my mind.


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  7. CCrete

    CCrete Mr. Poopyfacepeepeehead

    I would confidently say that that's the percentage in my world....the world I see and live in on a daily basis.


    Homes that are paid for by the government, if your a "section 8" qualified family, you pay for 15% of your section 8 approved rent, I didn't design the homes the GOV did....leaving you whatever money you make, tradionally thru some type of hustling and making untaxed "under the table" moneies. Albeit another point is that of accumulated earnings. If whomever makes under a specific amount determined by the government, based on however many kids you have and if its a single parent household, you get to keep your entire earnings for upkeep of life and children AND you get all the breaks. Leaving you with every damn cent you make to do whatever you want with it. LIKE, buy a nice car, nice clothes, eat like a king...


    I'll gladly go a take a picture of the East Hills projects in Wilkinsburg,PA.......you'd vomit if you saw that what im typing is complete truth. The place looks like a high end condo complex...


    What else is awesome is equal opportunity housing.....that's where the guy next door is making 80k a year and paying full terms but the guy next door is living on welfare with a nicer car than YOU....all cuz they built the complex in a low income neighborhood and the welfare guy has the RIGHT to opt to live there.
     
  8. jr215

    jr215 Caged hippie

    Nip-I wasn't pointing a finger at you. I just keep seeing Ras's name pop up and I put out a blanket statement not directed at you. Just seems like he gets kicked around a lot in here because of his lifestyle and I wanted to make sure people understand that he's self sustaining. I'm on your side about not giving up my stuff for someone who wont lift a finger to do their part. I'm also on Hank's side with some of his comments. Maybe I should proof read my remarks a little better.
     
  9. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    THIS^^. Its exactly how they do this shit. But have you ever noticed how all these insane laws dont reach the top of the food chain. I want the head of big pharm and the president to prove they aint fuckin with drugs.Got your hand on a nuclear button,piss test. Run a media empire,piss test. Why should people in lowly paid jobs or no jobs at all be forced to surrender their piss? Iyts the guys running the world in banks,media and shit like that who should be proving they aint on drugs.Instead they drug test the workers,then stand back until the workers scream for welfare to be piss tested. They love this shit. Im telling ya guys. See while you all watch that left hand,dont take your eye of the right hand!:2c:#


    EDIT: Another thing. If the welfare guys fails drug tests,where does that nfo go? Will it stop him getting a job further down the line?You bet it will! Also,maybe the guy on welfare has no life and some weed is his only crutch. Now hes gonna be of his welfare cos he smokes weed? He might be growing that shit himself but you wanna take him of welfare cos he piss sampled for weed?:jj:
     
  10. CCrete

    CCrete Mr. Poopyfacepeepeehead

    Hey man, when you ask for help, you gotta abide by the rules of the person helping you out.....to a point yes. Especially when your feel the need to abuse the system that's helping you feed and live


    Hate to break it to yall but, drugs and alcohol are atleast 50% of the reason people are the way they are in the US


    There has to be a standard that each individual has to step up to, to get these benefits, you cant just apply and get food and shelter for life, just by filling out paperwork anymore, its ridiculous


    Ever seen "The wonderful world of the Whites" about a family in West Virginia that has over 200 members in the fam and not a single one has worked, EVER!!! All got cars, good food and brag about how they jam the system...yet each leading family member has over 4 kids and gets a FAT check for 4-5-6-7-8 GRAND every tax season
     
  11. CCrete

    CCrete Mr. Poopyfacepeepeehead

    And im talking about the goons on welfare, not just for a job. But who wants the guy on dope standing next to him, all the while your in a mill or factory nd the dopehead can get you killed by sheer lack of attention or worth of skill, cmon
     
  12. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    Lol! Can't you see the hypocrisy of what you are saying?


    You are the dopehead!





    You can't pass a piss test w/o cheating. That makes you the dopehead. Jeez.


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  13. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    Drug testing is a violation of our individual human rights.


    MrGJ- Yeah I choose not to work. I'm not mooching off of the government in any way. What's the issue? Why shouldn't I be free to pursue my dream of growing and breeding killer ganja? I work for myself and Jah. I'm on a mission, I have a dream and a goal and I chose to leave the workforce and pursue that dream. Lots of artists, dreamers, writers and the like are always portrayed as lazy moochers that just don't want to work hard. Not everyone has to work a 9-5 to be a contributing part of society. As for the dude in question from the first post. If he mooches off the government then he's an ass, or mistreats his lady then she's stupid for staying with him. If he's not on government assistance and she loves him and supports his dream to pursue his art then who are any of us to judge. Just my perspective. take it however you want.


    Nip- That kind of abuse is not cool. I have a friend that lives in his car and travels to climb rocks. AT one point he was just not working because he didn't want to. He had worked for about a year and decided to take some time off to travel and climb. That's cool but when he told me like a year later that he was still collecting unemployment and was gonna keep collecting it until they cut him off and he was gonna apply for food stamps we got into a big argument. I don't agree with that. He can work and pay his own way or go without. I didn't like the lazy attitude towards providing for himself. Since then he has cleaned up his act. He's off the government assistance and works during the winter months so he can take the summers off and climb. No issue with that whatsoever. So for me it's not the laid back no job lifestyle that I have any issues with but when you combine that with abusing a system that's in place to help people who really need the help like a mother of 2 who's husband died and now she has to work 2 jobs and still need that assistance to pay for the needs of the kids. Or the person who hurts themselves on the job and can't work the list goes on and on and those people far outnumber the abusers. In my opinion the system help more than it hurts. I don't agree with the repeal of the qualifications and limitations necessary to get onto food stamps or other assistance. That guy is a douche for what he's doing but I know people like him doing a similar style of life that are not abusing the system and they're cool with me.


    I just don't like all the judgement being passed around here and I'm not the only one that felt that way by reading some of the posts in this thread but I find it interesting that my name popped up like dozen times after I made one post....:passsit:
     
  14. mrsganjah

    mrsganjah Ganja Babe

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  15. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    :roffl::roffl: :bravo: :passsit:
     
  16. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    Still waiting on that heffer, Ras!


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  17. jr215

    jr215 Caged hippie

    That's the best post in this thread!!!:bravo::coolbounce::bananas:
     
  18. Mrgreengenes

    Mrgreengenes Administrator

    I'll still have the last laugh you MODERATED rastas. :roffl:
     
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  19. MrAstro

    MrAstro R.I.P

    It's easy to have that attitude when it's not your hard earned taxes that are being abused, I guess.
     
  20. Administrator

    Administrator Administrator

    Moderated. Dont make this harder man:sad4:
     
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