LED DWC SCROG WTF!? LOL

Discussion in 'LED Growing' started by skunky, Apr 23, 2014.

  1. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Guess it depends if you're an ass man or boob man.... LOL Thanks. Not to bad for the root issues I had to fight off. Little microscopic bastards should've checked themselves before I wrecked theyselves. Hydrogen peroxide bullets are bad for their health. Lmao
     
  2. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    So since I don't ever really show the little mammas here is what the little 17W cab has been keeping going. I just took 25 or so cuts about a week ago and trimmed a couple of them down pretty good.Last two pics are Sour diesel left and galaxy right.

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  3. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    More micro moms... LOLFirst two pics; Glass slipper-left, sweet tooth- rightthird pic; Jamaican D-left, headband- center, chunky diesel-rightlast two- tangerine dream

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  4. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Couple other random pics I took because I was bored and thought they looked kinda cool. Almost like you can see the plants aura. :jj:

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  5. nuggnester

    nuggnester Pot & Poker Enthusiast

    that is actually just them shouting "give us more nutrients especially P and K!"
     
  6. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Actually just did that the day I took those pictures. Did a res change and added the pk 13/14.
     
  7. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Did some rearranging. got rid of the slow just wasting space plants in the 3rd tub that were hit so hard with root rot. Which only came to about an 1oz and some hash. Rest of the plants are looking fine and should make up for it. Other than some issue with pH due to these damn canna nutes. Heads up guys if you want to use RO water or have to because you use a water softner and can't get a hold of potassium chloride pellets instead of sodium chloride like me... Use advanced nutrients. AN is designed for RO water. If you use tap use Canna. Canna is designed for tap apparently and doesn't buffer well with RO water. Kept having pH drifting up to 6.4 or so. Finally figure out that if I'm using canna in RO I need to be using Cal mag plus and also setting my pH to 5.5 first, well after letting the nutrients equilibriate for 1 hour. Which according to canna is not needed if using tap water, the pHing that is. IDK, I'll see this next round after these girls finish up. I was under the impression it was just as easy and user friendly and brainless as AN. LOL So just monitored, took notes, and tinkered a little as needed. So far main observations of using Canna vs Advanced sensi 2 part, which are both supposed to be pH self regulated. AN I used to the T to the bottle instructions, in coco though. Beautiful results with minimal effort or head scratching. Actually none. Same with the vegging in DWC. As soon as I started using the canna Mg defs started coming in and I supplemented a little. Which then came back again a little earlier than I'd like to see it rear it's head. Mixing per instructions I was getting some slight burn, so had to adjust the mix down,currently running around 8ml/gal and coming in total around 850ppm. Other than that only issue was pH drifting up. Until I went to add the PK 13/14, even at a lower dosage I only used 2ml/gal. Now 2 of the 4 plants are showing Ca def now. I've come to the conclusion that cannazym does more bad than good. I think I will only use it to soak hydroton in for enzymatic digestion prior to cleaning and re-use. Seemed roots were in the best health when I used less of it. Rhizo seems to really to it's job, but too much cannazym and it seems to really negate the effects of rhizo. So next round.... Will be using cal mag from the start and adjusting pH to 5.5 after 1 hr and see how it plays out. No cannazym. Just the base and rhizo, with cal mag, and H202. Then I'll use PK for one week in flower and probably use up the rest of my bud candy just to get it out of the way.Have about 2-3 weeks left.

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  8. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Couple of more. Now the little party cups are up in the left corner. I spread things out to 2x4. So think I will run the 3 tubs and then keep two shoe box sized storage bins with 4-6 solo cups in it. I've got some cuts i need to get out of the way. Would like to not throw so many away....

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  9. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    And as you can see, I have too many as it is. Got a little carried away...

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  10. Lvstickybud

    Lvstickybud Bongmaster

    I always end up with 10-15 more clones than I need and I have the hardest time deciding whether to cram them in or toss them. The ones I do toss I go back to a couple hours later and wonder if I did the right thing.


    I have really enjoyed watching this grow with the tubs. Well with the leds too but I know I'll probably never use leds.


    Also, I saw alien ass AND boobs.
     
  11. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    LOL Yeah I usually have extra but not this many extra. So I have 4 still in DWX, 4 in solo cups in flower now, 20 recently transplanted clones starting to veg, 21 more clones rooting, 5 seedlings, and 8 moms. Just going to go ahead and throw two, the sour diesel and i believe glassslipper either tonight or tomorrow. I will be putting them in their DWC homes and starting to veg. 12 hours under the flower lamps and 12 under lower wattage LEDs. Probably just like 30-40 watts. Probably do that for about two weeks before just leaving in the flower room. Then will be moving the 4 other moms into buckets in a couple weeks. Then move 8-12 more solo cups in around the same time. Might move 6 in here some time this week then the rest in a couple weeks when the others come out.Couple of pics of a small portion of the QWISO I made. Got a 1/4 of that so it's alright. I'll take it! Need to get me a new tube for BHO or try my hand at some other "solventless" extracts, even though people fail to remember water and CO2 are also solvents... LOL :roffl: Anyways. This is like some fruit roll up shit. Just 1 minute shake in cold 91% iso. If you dry outside or with exposed UV light you will get some red coloration in it. Texture is all about the timing of the initial scrape. Then working it then allowing to dry and purge longer. If you work it over the time of the dry for about a week, it turns out like a fruit roll up but not as pliable. Like some flexible shatter that's not as clean and more opaque due to the nature of the extract and other solutes carried over in the extraction.

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  12. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Day 43 pics. All look like they are approaching harvest in about 10 days, except the chunky diesel. That thing is super fat and still going strong. Not even a single red hair and trichs are still ramping up. Compared one of the chunky d colas to a 1 litre water bottle. Last pic are the plants in the solo cups.

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  13. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Tasty looking iso skunky.


    You guys got me so sold on LED's that I'm starting to regret a bunch of ballasts I bought not to long ago.


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  14. Mrgreengenes

    Mrgreengenes Administrator

    Looking good skunky:thumbsup:Love the LED grow. I agree with Resin about the ISO, looks tasty.


    Resin I see LED's in my future eventually. :read2: :bong-2:
     
  15. Bigbud214

    Bigbud214 Ganja Guru Extreme

    First off very nice qwiso Skunky... I've been sold on LEDs for awhile. Just need the capital... Lol... i think my first move is mounting a couple of those Cree flood lights from home depot in my veg cab.... Get rid of the 400W mh. Too much heat
     
  16. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Couple bud shots.

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  17. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Alright. Kinda pissed right now. I transplanted a TD and SD into another tub last week. Temps have been fine. No root rot. Then all the sudden BAM!!!! The fucking DWC nightmare, the dreaded "white slime". So YAY fucking bacterial infection now. And since this is aerobic it's either due to the new hydroton, that I washed thoroughly, or due to the use of the 30% h202. Nothing growing off the water culture from the remainder of the bag though. Those are the only two things I've changed, other than removing canazyme. Might even just be the rhizo since i'm using it with no canazyme, and it's algal based and this appears to be cyanobacteria. Though now that it's here if I add canazyme I would just be feeding it. Worst part is now that this bullshit is here and I can't get a hold of physan 20 for about a week I'm just going to have to clean them off and trasnplant into coco and add some great white benies. Shit can be almost impossible to get rid of. Really about to say fuck these damn canna nutes and go back to sensi 2 part base or GH. fucking retarded. Like experience in the past not impressed what-so-ever in canna nutes. more headaches and bullshit than anything I've ever used. Think after the other two buckets are done. Going to sit down design a new water chiller and do some testing then just do a table or aero. Makes no sense got a space I help maintain for a buddy with 4-4x8 tables and not a single problem in over 200 gals of water, not even an issue with the aero cloners. Only difference is AN vs Canna and hydroton. Yet 3 dwc 7.5 gal buckets with 5gal solution fucking nightmare. :BangHead::redbong: Bleach and clean everything every single week. Hell noticed the slime yeaterday. Used a freshly cleaned tub. Had already rinsed the roots good with plain water then also with h202 and water, then again with plain water. Everything gone looking white and healthy. made up all new nutes in the new cleaned res. Check today and it's even worse than yesterday before the res flush. Mainly because it sterilized everything else and killed all the others except these bastards.


    Or I'll just quit wasting lots of water and extra nutes, not have to keep the ac so cranked to help with res temps and just stick to coco for my small space. Want to stay hydro but we will see. Because with this one it's supposed to be a painless easy setup.


    Sorry for the rant. Just really bummed. I wasn't impressed with canna in the past, though none of these issues. Then after using AN on two buddies recommendations from their experience I tried it and liked it. Though all I heard was a bunch of negative things. Everywhere too. So seeing as Canna re-did their line and it too was now pH perfect figured I'd give it another whirl. What's funny is all I heard is what shit AN is and how good canna is yet all I'm seeing and experiencing is the exact opposite. Wish I could find a detailed list of ingredients of the canna so I could compare strictly content. I'm thinking canna is lacking some.


    Either way about 1 week on 2-3 of the plants and the chunky D I have no clue. Looks like maybe 3 more weeks. Though I might chop early at two, just depends.
     
  18. DXE

    DXE Moderator

    Wow - kindof makes me happy I use dirt but I feel bad for you!!


    Are you going to loose the run or can these be saved?


    Makes me very nervous about changing anything with my nutes (and soil).


    Good luck......
     
  19. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Well I transplanted the new sd and td into coco after that rant. Lol cleaned them up then let them dry out some, watered and just now gave them some great white. Should be fine. I cut the older sd because it's ready. Chunky still going. Jamaican d and sweet tooth come down next week. Doubt i hit my goal. Hopefully this sd weighs about 2. Hoping for around 10oz still. Looks like should still get about 7 just off chunky d and Jamaican d. Then looks like 3-4 total everything else. idk Just visual estimations. Well see. So far just 1oz of sweet tooth that came down early.
     
  20. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Sounds like a fuck of a lot of work for a private garden. Sorry to hear. :passit: Why you still paying big $$ for Great White?
     

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