Ebola WTF

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health/ebola-us/


Atlanta (CNN) -- It's a lapse that has Americans concerned and health officials asking how it could happen.


A man who had Ebola but didn't know it walked into a Dallas emergency room September 26. Although his symptoms could have indicated Ebola among other things, no one at the hospital asked him if he had recently traveled, a source close to the case told CNN.


The man, who had just flown from Liberia to the States didn't offer the information either, the source said, and the man left the hospital. A spokesman for Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital says it's investigating whether he was questioned.


Regardless, two days passed between the time the man left and then returned to the facility September 28 where it was determined he likely had Ebola and was isolated. He tested positive Tuesday, health officials said.


The CDC advises that all medical facilities should ask for patients with symptoms consistent with Ebola for their travel history. It's possible others were infected because of the lapse.


The virus is contracted through bodily fluids. It's not like a cold or the flu, which can be spread before symptoms show up. It doesn't spread through the air.


Isolating the patient and paramedics


The patient is now under intensive care and isolated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden.


He is in serious condition, the hospital told CNN Wednesday.


The man flew from Liberia -- one of the Ebola hotspots in West Africa -- and arrived in Dallas to visit family on September 20, Frieden explained.


The patient started feeling ill around September 24 and sought medical care on September 26, Frieden said.


CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta asked Frieden Wednesday on "New Day" if the man should have been tested for Ebola on his first visit to the hospital, and if he should have been asked about his recent travel history.


"That's one of the things we'll be looking at," Frieden said. "But we're reiterating the message for every health worker in this country -- think about travel history. If someone's been in West Africa within 21 days and they've got a fever, immediately isolate them and get them tested for Ebola."


Gupta then asked Frieden to explain guidance the CDC has issued on that and again asked: "Should this person have been tested?"


"We weren't there so I can't tell you exactly what that person said..." Frieden responded.


Gupta interjected, "You're advising public health departments. Last time I was here (at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta) there was a call with many primary care doctors to educate them on this exact issue. That was a couple of months ago. Should this person have been tested?"


Frieden answered, "We know that in busy emergency departments all over the country, people may not ask travel histories. I don't know if that was done here. But we need to make sure that it is done going forward."


Air travel testing


Every person who travels by air is screened before departure and at arrival in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone, but because the man says he began feeling ill days after landing in the U.S., a screening test in West Africa would likely have not turned up that he had Ebola.


However, it's unclear what kind of screening someone arriving from West Africa might receive when arriving in the United States, said CNN's Senior Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen. She and her crew recently reported in and flew from West Africa, where she said they were screened numerous times for Ebola by having their temperatures taken at the airport.


Should we worry?


But when they arrived back in the United States, and asked travel officials about whether their temperatures would be taken or they'd receive screening for Ebola, they were given unclear explanations about how the process worked and ultimately were not tested.


Regardless, the CDC maintains that passengers on the Texas man's plane were likely not at risk because the man was not displaying active symptoms on the flight.


Paramedics who transported the patient to the hospital have been isolated, Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings' chief of staff said. They have not shown symptoms of the disease so far, Frieden said.


The ambulance used to carry the patient was still in use for two days after the transport, city of Dallas spokeswoman Sana Syed said.


But she emphasized that the paramedics decontaminated the ambulance, as they do after every transport, according to national standards.


How the virus spreads


Finding the people the man came into contact with


During the time he was symptomatic, the man had a handful of contacts with people, Frieden said.


A CDC team headed to Dallas to help investigate those contacts.


Once those people are identified, they will be monitored for 21 days -- taking their temperatures twice a day -- in cooperation with local and state health officials, Frieden said Wednesday.


But Gupta pointed out that the people identified as contacts aren't, as protocol, quarantined unless they are symptomatic.


Frieden explained that people who have Ebola are not able to spread the disease unless they are symptomatic.


"We don't want to isolate parts of the world, or people who aren't sick," Frieden said, "because that's going to drive people underground and make it harder to contain this outbreak."

 

the man was puking all around the apartment building he was staying in..close quarters with 5 kids, threw up on EMTs and at the hospital before being diagnosed.


I'm about to home school my kids, you got that mystery virus paralyzing kids going through the schools too.


Zombie Apocalypse is here:qright1::qright2::new_snipersmilie::qright7:

 

But what you fail to realize is that in Africa is wipes out villages which keeps the virus somewhat in check. They do not have the infrastructure that we do, they can't travel 3000 in the course of an afternoon or get in a car and drive 1000 miles in one day.


That's the biggest problem, we have no way to contain it if it spreads....in africa it's self contained because they lack roads

 

west nile only had a 3-15% mortality rate from other disease while sick with the vast majority (up to 80%) people never even knowing they had it. But you bring up a point, the flu is successful because it mutates....what happens when this mutates?


Another off note, flu doesn't make you bleed out you eyes and ass til you die


They just admitted someone in DC with possible case also


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/03/howard-university-ebola-symptoms-patient-admitted-nigeria/16645717/


all this aside, it's a needless risk that we shouldn't have even faced. We are facing a plague because of politicians...actually just one politician


we have a man that is convinced that no one will lie on a questionnaire and that they are to stupid to think of taking tylenol to ward off the fever for an hour to board.


One mans political correctness is risking the lives of millions

 

I got my sign "The end is near" and a bunch of water and food stored, and 6 guns and lot's of ammo, Just kidding......about the sign....:roffl:


Just think, every couple of weeks the people infected will prob double if they don't get a handel on it now.


The black horse from the "Bride" is upon us.....:icon_confused:


But seriously, shit is scary, if your not concerned, you might want to keep an eye/ear out on what might happen.

 

Skunk reread your link. It states just 5% died from west nile.


Doesnt matter I guess if my family was one of 5 10 whatever precent I would devastated


We are just going to keep cases because now tgese people think we have a cure and can save them. You really cant blame them though...id lie and get on a plane if I thought it would save one of my kids so they could get proper treatment.


I bet we have cases pop all here and there until we enforce travel ban like other countries are doing.


Pd...top ten hit there :roffl:


Jco...my wife made me do an ammo run last week lol


Ff thats the thing....I dont think we know. I call bs on what cdc is saying. If its not that big of a threat and you have to sick to transmit. ..why yhe hell are the people in dallas under armed guard? No fevers yet but they guns on them. Gov doesnt believe its own shit

 

using basic common sense is called evolution. don't think anyone is paranoid best to know facts that just wonder through life.


i try not to use a hair drier in the shower either you know. That should trip a breaker before killing you but I'm not going to take the chance. Nor would I have sex with random women without a condom....you know basic common sense when it comes to self preservation.


to take needless risk with ZERO reward is absurd. calculated risks are one thing, risk vs reward. Tell me how what reward we have by letting this people come here? Who should pay for all of this?


Unless you are saying you believe the government, because if they are telling the truth, why the armed guards, why are they monitoring other people? If you can only catch why someone is else, then there was no secondary risk which is contrary to what they are doing. Why are they using hazmat suits?


Why did they seize the plane that flew the man from liberia? :read2:


While I agree the flu will kill more this year than ebola this year...it's on our soil now....and for no reason at all besides political correctness. The admin has once again shown it's incapable of governing.


Dont you think a travel ban would save lives? That's basic common sense, like not using hair drier in the shower.

 

:roffl::roffl:


Aaaaaa.......Choooooooo


OH. SHIT......:5eek:

 

you ever wonder if allah meant old harry dudes or something. Is it specified female :5eek: