May Donald Trump's Soul Rot in Hell

Too me.

 

Give a watch to this. Been looking for the original Daniel Ratigan clip but can't find it so this is the best I can do. Trump is corrupt, Clinton's are corrupt, Obama was corrupt and Ratigan sums up the equation near perfectly.



Half the problem in discussions with Trump supporters is that the opposition is often assumed to be Clinton fans or social justice warriors or Obama supporters when the truth is often far from it. They're all fuckers and anybody with 4 Goldman Sachs execs on staff is a corrupt fucker too.

Talking to Obama fans or Clinton'ites or hardcore Democratic party folks is equally as frustrating as talking to hardcore Trump folks. All they want to do is ignore their guy's bullshit while pointing at how bad Trump/Pence/evil repubs/ are. Same 'yeah but' bullshit DJT lovers toss out except in reverse. Wake up people. Finger pointing and sucking up to Goldman Sachs and money'ed interests is what put us here.

 

oddly you see Goldman Sachs as the enemy instead of the federal reserve, world bank, and imf. Our large corporate banks are but the symptom, not the disease.

federal reserve holds us all hostage including goldman as the world bank and imf does for other countries.

debt is the new slavery. weird thing about money, you can't eat it, you can't hunt with it, you can't do anything with it. it's only value is what someone tells you it's worth. the money in your pocket is about as useless as fart in the wind. it's not even based on anything but a promise of our economy surviving

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich - Napoleon

You see, the so called enlightened have now rejected the worship of a god in favor for worship politicians or ideas. Same end result, it keeps them placid and obedient for master

 

i absolutely agree with that.

i actually support him more now that the media does what it does. the whole enemy of my enemy.

did anyone listen to the hearings yesterday? then did you hear the spin?

people too ignorant to think for themselves, one of these days i'm selling dick enlargement pills, booby cream and magic beans and retiring.

if everyone else is allowed to con people, why can't i?

 

Ratigan is right in that rant on MSNBC. How is his rant somehow supportive of a guy who has at least four of those bankster execs in his Presidential cabinet?

Nip...you're all about supposition and looking for a side door. Why not just answer the issue of Goldman Sachs and your boy's love affair with them instead ASSUMING I have no problem with the Fed Reserve? It's a dodge. You can't defend Goldman Sachs and Trump's love so you look for an inconsistency or offer up another boogie man for distraction. Same as when you finally called Session's a "good ol boy who doesn't know better" as an excuse for putting yet more people in jail on stupid drug offenses instead of just denouncing the whole thing as lunacy that doesn't work. (unless you want to argue that the drug war has been a huuuuge success?)

I got lots of problems with the Fed. Their relationship with Goldman Sachs for one. I got lots of problems with the IMF. I got lots of problems with the Import Export Bank. But how does that change DJT's love affair with one of the other problems? Namely, Wall Street banksters and their place at DJT's table. Or is that too ticklish of an issue for a DJT fluffer? And how does Wall Street execs on DJT's Presidential staff make the IMF, Import Export Bank and Fed Reserve problems better? Goldman Sachs make billions off those acronym entity financial systems. They have no intention of eradicating or reforming their cash cows.

Debt is the new slavery. Yep. Sure is. Now who do we owe that debt to? Banks maybe? The very banks Obama, Clinton and now Trump are cozy cozy with? The very banks DJT is pushing to loosen regulations on? The very banks that write student loans which are no longer covered by consumer credit protection laws because of DJT's administration? And before you go off about elite university students and their loans...those student loans are also for Community College students, vocational tech student's, and two year certification program students as well as University students.

Yep...DJT sure is protecting our young people against predatory slave master banksters by making sure their debt (the whip) follows them forever should they have the temerity to borrow some money in an attempt to get educated and improve their life. Bankster kids don't need student loans, most everybody else does. DJT just gave those banksters the ultimate whip. Debt incurred by young people that can never be escaped in exchange for a higher education that's overpriced. No bankruptcy, no hardship write-off. Nothing.

Those are the slave masters and DJT's admin is working to reduce their regulatory controls and accountability. He said he'd fight them in his campaign, but has actually been a blessing to Wall Street and the banksters.....just like Obama, just like the Clintons.

Man, you don't even see it. Trump is simply an uglier, dumber, more autocratic version of Clinton, Obama, Bush...... but yeah, go ahead and bury your head brother. Make excuses, avoid hard questions about your boy by doing things like shifting to the Fed Reserve instead of addressing a love fest between DJT and Wall Street execs on his staff. Make excuses for Prohibition drug war lovers in the DJT Admin. Ask questions like "What's so bad with for profit prisons?" It only makes you look foolish and every time a DJT supporter looks foolish it makes their boy look foolish too.

Btw...you let the main stream media influence your support? If they hate a guy you like him more? Are you aware that's the same knee jerk gullibility you accuse others of when they follow the media lead? Think for yourself goddammit! Media hate or love is no excuse for any aware adult to support or not support any political candidate.

 

I don't understand what you are asking in regards to goldman sachs. but even goldman sachs are dwarfed by jp morgan, citi, wells fargo etc.....and the federal reserve dwarfs jp morgan, citi etc because they control it all. to me the goldman sachs argument is like going after the kid on the corner slinging vs the cartel bringing shit in by the ton. I'm not avoiding anything, i just don't understand what you are getting at.

The Federal Reserve doesn't need Goldman Sachs, i would refer to my above analogy as a cartel can replace any kid on the corner.

And we see things vastly different, the absolute vast majority of people do not need university. it's a marketing, that's all. and if federal government actually reduced loans it would drive the cost down. I thought everyone agreed on that, seriously, I can post link after link after link from almost any source you would like to see that. The reason universities cost so much is because so many government programs are available to get money from...there is definitive proof of that

It is literally the same exact principal that caused the housing market collapse (that goldman sachs and many others made a lot of money off of). By increasing credit and money available to first time home buyers because the government was trying to increase home ownership, it artificially raised the value of homes, creating a bubble. Same thing that happened in tech industry....same as you are arguing for schooling.

It is the same exact reason they cracked down on credit cards on college campuses

It's even like healthcare today, no amount of money can fix it, that's why feds should stay out of it. the more money you throw at it, the more it's going to cost. If you go to doctor because your back hurts you don't need an mri, xray, this test that test etc etc....you may only have to have a muscle relaxer and heating pad for a couple of days. But since doctors can't do that anymore and have to test test test, just to protect themselves from lawsuits it drives up costs. hell you can cut out billions annually just be stopping defensive medicine. but if you did that, Bernie Sanders would be out there, now grandma is going to die because the doctors didn't want to check her for cancer

And fighting against regulations isn't always bad....you think it should be illegal to catch rainwater? how about having a pond on your yard? I write SOPs all day long because of regulations, as soon as I get done, I start over because regs change....which is actually more of a result of lobbying as SuperMo pointed out. Because large corporations can do many things in house that smaller firms can't, thus increasing the costs on the little guy to stay in biz and giving large corps an unfair advantage

You seem to be in denial that we had a choice, Trump or Clinton. Unless you arguing that we should pick up rifles, which i may be inclined to agree with.

About the media, yea, it does make me like him more, because they are part of the swamp that gives cover. You heard yesterday their is no unmasking protocol, basically Obama did spy on whomever he wished to spy on, even the secret courts tried to stop it.....and it's not like you actually had to speak to someone as massie pointed out, if your name was mentioned by 2 parties outside of the country they investigated.....but only if you were republican. how can you remotely think that that's ok? then cnn continues to spin it like trump is nixon, when the fisa courts said they has 'substantial concerns'.....a secret court thats almost never said no in it's entire history was pointing out the illegal spying....and somehow Trump is nixon??

https://www.scribd.com/document/349261099/2016-Cert-FISC-Memo-Opin-Order-Apr-2017-4#from_embed

You honestly think an administration that used the NSA, IRS, CIA, FBI against it's political enemies is somehow better than reducing federal government?

If people didn't turn a blind eye for the past 8 years non of this would be possible, you wouldn't be scared of Trump because he would have no real power.

 

oh i forgot about sessions...I think we just differ, thus me calling him a good ole boy. his aim is to use the full weight of the law against cartels and gangs in my opinion, not people like us, because we wouldnt be federal cases to begin with

 

ugh.......... you can't defend DJT/GS relationship so you obfuscate once again.
Sad. So sad.

One more time. I'll be really really basic here. Is DJT having multiple Goldman Sachs execs in his cabinet a good thing? Is further deregulating banks a good thing? Are removing consumer credit protections from student loans so banks can reap more profit a good thing. Is having a Prohibitionist Drug Warrior zealot as AG a good thing?

Simple questions. I can answer every one of them with a single word. Can you?

 

Everybody who grows, sells, or uses a cannabis plant in the United States of America commits a Federal Felony. What you're saying is you HOPE he is only after MS13 and those guys. Hope ain't worth shit in the history of Prohibition. Hope gets people like me arrested when we hope other people will be rational when they're really not.

This cover, this excuse you give for expanding a failed war on drugs, is truly disgusting man....and I think if it were anybody but Donny Tiny Hands boy as AG you'd be as pissed as I am. I was equally pissed about Holder's memo when it came out in the Obama admin and it wasn't a tenth as bad as what 'good ol' boy Sessions is intending. (Lest you try the old "but what about Obama's guy")

You claim to be Libertarian. How does expanding the War on Drugs jibe with Libertarian principles? Either you're really not a Libertarian, or, your Libertarianism takes a back seat to supporting anything DJT does.

 

honestly you are somewhat correct about Sessions, it is my hope, it's what i think the most reasonable explanation is. It's like when they said trump was going to deport everyone, and every single Dreamer was going. Turns out that's not the case, it was hyped up crap to further divide people instead of being based in reality.

That being said, i'm sure some decent 'illegals' will get caught up, as some growers may as well. I don't think this is the evil trump empire though, it's enforcing some rules to get rid of riff raff. Not saying the it's perfect, but it is what it is

As far as being libertarian, how am i remotely violating my principals? I am supporting freedom caucus members, I am supporting ending mandatory mins, I support ending searches without warrants...how remotely am I violating my principals as a libertarian? Im supporting members of congress that can end the drug war....not a single member on the other side of the isle is trying to do what these members are doing.

I'm not saying sessions my first, second, third, fourth... shit he wouldn't even be on my list. But I'm not the one making the decisions, I just don't think it's as bad as you say it is. We could have had way way worse, we have had it way way worse for the past 16 years or so. When he says what he says, I think he has made his intentions clear. you can say it could be applied this way or that, thats absolutely true, but i don't think that's his intentions. because trump wants to reelected in 4 years and he's doesn't stand a chance expanding the drug war as i pointed out, he can't get a single, not one bill through congress without freedom caucus

about goldman sachs, you'd have to be more specific. I see no issues with Mnuchin, or Bannon as goldman sachs isn't what they are known for, it's just a company they worked at for. i understand the point you are trying to make, but it's the same point trump tried to use during the election. but commonsense tells you that you want very good economists running the show and being able to spot trends

I still don't for the life of me have know why goldman sachs is even remotely compared to federal reserve though. you act like goldman sach is the worst thing ever, when jp morgan etc control way more of our economy, have done more damage, more fees on the poor, more everything. I really don't understand the argument. the federal reserve literally controls our entire economic system and aren't even accountable to anyone. you think the devil is some company investing, but the person dictating the value of the investment gets a pass.

fuck, the federal reserve loans money to the banks to loan money to us, while dictating the interest rate and the actual value of the money....at the same time printing the money to pay the interest...all without oversight. how remotely is that not far far far far worse than being investment banker?

or the imf and world bank that hold starving countries hostage for the uber rich?

these people are the rich for thousands of years ago and ensuring serfdom today...how do they not rank hire in your book for shit holes? I will never have problems or be hateful towards a rich person for being rich, but fuck generational wealth. That's not to say Trump didn't get a sizable loan from his father, but he grew that 'hugely'..same as kennedy's....much different than rothchilds etc or those still trying to enforce serfdom.

Or those like the clintons or imf that prey on the poor, because thats what people like that are predators, they have zero redeeming qualities

 

I think i'm getting there. I jokingly came up with a way around a bunch of laws to scam folks while drinking one night with old friends one night. they started pulling laws and we figured a work around. end of the day, it was just drunken fun.

starting to think it should be real...but i have kids who i want to learn the value of hard work

 

Tired...if I've been a dick I apologize. I'm sure I'm right and that you're hopelessly confused about what the man you support is actually doing. You, of course, believe the same of me. History will bear out who was correct. I gots weed to grow and cops with a newfound mission to avoid.

Peace guys.