Im not belittling it by taking a GK poll on it.Its tragic but iv already posted on my FB feed asking friends and family what they think should happen so i thought i would take it stateside for an American point of view. OK so heres the lowdown-[YOUTUBE]dQLh3oOUU-Y[/YOUTUBE] A girl called Fiona Anderson ,a mother of 3 young children and heavily pregnant with her 4th.Birth was imminent. The day before the Dad to her 3 going on 4 kids tells her hes cheated or she finds out hes cheating and confronts him.He tells her hes leaving her and the family home.She loses the plot and actually stabs him with a sharp object.He goes to hospital for treament and by the time he gets home and drifts into a few hours sleep.His partner has jumped of a set of multi storey carp parks killing herself and the unbonr child. She was seen on CCTV walking to the carpark clutching a teddy bear heavily pregnant. At home her 3 children lay cuddled up in bed,all of them dead.:cry:[YOUTUBE]xpSww-Yvt48&NR[/YOUTUBE]Theres no signs of physcial harm or trauma as far as the media are aware but a post mortem is being carried out to determine the cause of death. This story is sad on so many levels and watching the numerous tv interviews has brought a tear to my glass eye at times. On the day it was announced ,there was a camera crew looking at a small shrine of flowers being put down steadily and they man so happened to be there reading them was the Dad.He appeared in shock more than anything but while its not his fault as in no one can do something that merits losing heir soon to be 4 children.[YOUTUBE]5St7aHQbO_4&NR[/YOUTUBE] But he will be riddled with guilt all his life now either way.He will always ask himself whether he should have kept his cheating a secret until she had gave bith and been more stable minded?Its a sad sory. But now it turns out Fiona wrote on her walls in her home "bury me with the children" ,it appears the Dad wont allow it in any way despite a tearful tv appearance by Fiona Andersons parents. I can see the Dads point of view,this is the woman who took his 3 children he loved and one he had yet to meet,but at the same time he would do well to remember she never would have went over the edge if it werent for him cheating on her and then leaving her as she was due to go into labor. So surely he should want to be remembered for something other than " the guy that drove that devoted pregnant mum of 3 to kill herself and the kids.If i was him id come out and say. I'll allow them to be buried with he woman who took their lives,as she also gave them it.But only because i dont want my children ti lie in the grave alone.But whenever i die i would like them placed in grave with me. Would that not be the sensible solution to all this. Those kids shouldnt be left in a grave on their own. [YOUTUBE]aFWMTZcsMHo&NR[/YOUTUBE]Their Mum wasnt an evil murderer who put them through suffering and fear or alarm in their final minutes.They were all found cuddled up to each other in bed.This is a woman who was hormonal and drove to a breakdown and going by her last ever facebook update which read " no one wants us".Then you can only imagine what state of mind she was in to kill her kid and then go jump of a building and kill herself:sad4:Views of her friends and neighbours who knew her and the kids-[YOUTUBE]f1WF3-HJk4A[/YOUTUBE]Theres also an element for Fionas family,they have lost their girl,their 3 grandkids and an unborn grandkid all due to the reaction to their daughter being cheated on and dumped.Yet their tv appeal to him was dignified and i just hope sense prevails here cos those kids shouldnt be left alone in a grave together.Im choking up just thinking about this story,its really got to me since it first broke.[YOUTUBE]3dFfjvXIk8w[/YOUTUBE] What do you all think though?Should the Dad have his wish and not have them buried with their Mum or should they not be left in a grave alone and buried with her Mum. 3rd option would be to either when he dies they go into his grave or they get cremated and the ashes shared? Sad sad story though:sad4:Some insight to the background of the case- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310458/Fiona-Anderson-death-Family-hits-social-services-lack-treatment.htmlAnd the latest from todays newspaper- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318984/Fiona-Anderson-Parents-pregnant-woman-killed-children-fell-multi-storey-ask-father-grant-final-wish-bury-them.html /monthly_2013_05/ionaandersonlastcctv.gif.adb02b451d4357ad32ddf8e21f42d836.gif /monthly_2013_05/fionaandersonslastmessageonherhousewalls.jpg.ca4b230328b33d4056e056a85661b07e.jpg /monthly_2013_05/fionaandersonskids.jpeg.6be27783cf005c3f6b67e7e2da5c7f47.jpeg /monthly_2013_05/andersonkidswithdad.jpg.85c39dfd5008ff3b15a4863f07288363.jpg /monthly_2013_05/andersonkidsfancydress.jpg.53a2be6c974321b9f0e15f3f3cd871ac.jpg
What kind of Woman would murder her 3 live children and one unborn over any man. Let her burn in hell by herself. t6
Oh theres no reasonable excuse for it.But it musta been a mental breakdown.... Yeah i understand the sentiment. Usually id say no way should kids be buried with a Mum who killed them. About a year or so ago there was a woman who drowned her child in Scotland after witnessing the birth of her partners baby to another woman.She went out and straight killed her kid drowning her in a stream.She got 5 and a half years for culpable homcide. How that cae was EVER culpable homicide instea dof Murder was beyind my intpretation of the law. But that was a perfect example of where if she died id say no way should she be buried with her dead child etc- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-15124395 But this case is just heart wrenching man:cry: She was a otally devoted Mum to them kids by all accounts.I think being so heavily pregnant with her 4th and the shock and trauma of finding out her mans cheated and then thats hes leaving her.It must have just crushed her reality mentally. Its a sad sad story. But my point was more along the lines of- The dads no angel in all this and i dont think he should be putting that girls parents through any mor than losing their daughter and 4 grandkids. I would,if i ws the guy.Agree to bury them with the Mum and then when i die they come with me. They shouldnt be left alone in a grave when there mother,albeit who killed them,can be in the grave too.Its a one off tragedy. There was no planning,motive or evil intent.Only hock,trauma and what appears to be a complete reality and mental breakdown.Iv been following the case in the newspapers,its just horrid.For the guy too cos like i said hes got to live knowing that what he done,while not to blame for anything,was the reason behind his ex partners suicide with her kids. It so messed up.I just feel like they should agree to cremate the 3 kids and give Fionas Father and Mother some ashes.See when i watched the parents talking and a tear ran down Fionas Dads face,summit about a grown man.Especially a scotsman crying cos a scotsman only cries when things are so raw you cant help yourself. Seeing the tear stream down that grown mans face,it brought a lump to my throat just thinking how bereft and devestated they mist feel:sad4:
I normally would say she could burn in whatever hell yall decide to believe in, but psychology plays a big part in cases like this. I will have to ask my sis her take on it from a professional stand point, but I feel like this woman was at her wits end towards psychosis if not full blown psychosis (like most women....except Lion's Lady of course). That kind of mental state combined with the hormones and his cheating explains a lot. That isn't to say it was justified. Very few killings are, whether it be human or otherwise. But our mind is a powerful thing when put into complete defense mode.
Worlds more fucked up by the day... Aw totally.Nothing can justify it.But its obvious the woman made a crazy stupid decision and its sad how it turned out.I dont know,its just so tragic .I think cremation would be best resolvement and share ashes or someshit and the ashes could be sprinkled on her kids grave at a later date. Its a totally bizarre and really sad case.Weirdest shit iv seen locally on the news for a while. Not the saddest,the saddest and most vile is a guy standing trial right now for killing an little girl in Wales. You dont even want to hear the gruesome detsails.Stomch turning.
This kinda case is actually quite common in Japan. Mother killing the children and herself, or just the children, or a child killing it's sibling or parents, or various combinations. People do have various stresses and mental problems. It's just that instead of going on a killing spree and killing lots of strangers they turn on themselves and family members.
In this case there was an element ,mistaken or otherwise,of the mother believing she was protecting her children from further hurt and she was "keeping them safe with her".Sad that she "felt and actually believed that to be the case or only option:sad4:
Neithers world hunger or poverty but we still chime in When you hit the newspapers every dicks got a load to shoot
It's a personal decision between him and those close to him that affects nobody but him. None of my bidness.
Yeah but theres an element of 'you walked out on your mrs and kids now you wanna deny their grandparents to bury them with their daughter and the kids mother?' Its a tragedy.And by him and the girls family both using the media then their putting themselves out there for discussion and public opinion.:jj:
