I have been mucking around with some bubbler buckets, cloners and such as of late and thaught I might just kick off a thread for different bubbling ideas. Here are a couple pics of some different type bubblers and set ups I have been playing around with. At one week in. Two weeks later. Roots If any one can see these pics, I will post a couple more. If not just try the New Romeo Grow link at the bottom of my signature. Please feel free to ask any questions, add comments and personal photos. (Edited by HappyJay at 3:34 am on July 2, 2003)
Nice, Happy. Looks like you have a great set-up. Do you have any links to more information about bubblers? Very nice grow.
Thanks fellas, these ladies are my little home grow. Romeo clones in the bubblers and some 3week GS seedlings veging in soil under a 400MH. The clones took 7 days to root, were then veged in clone bucket with a slight nuty, under flouros untill 14 days. They were then transplanted to the large bubble bucket, left under flouros untill 21 days, then moved to the 400MH. They have been under the MH for 2 weeks now, (for a total of 5 weeks from cutting), and have plenty of clone options on them. Joint, the bubblers are bloody easy to use, rapid and dense growth, easy to make and the cloners are great aswell. A good linc to the bubblers is Bubbler Buckets or OG seems to have a decent FAQ on them at O.G. Bubbler FAQ (Edited by HappyJay at 3:57 am on July 2, 2003)
High there Jay. The bubblers are realatively inexpensive to build and very cheap to keep maintained. After you have decided on what type of bubbler you want to build, (single bucket or multiple rubbermaide etc.), you can choose the size & volume airpump needed, how many airstones/ buckets or containers/ net pots and stones etc. To start of with, this container was chosen and made so it fits in both the flouro cupboard and the grow & flower chambers. The containers have interchangable lids with different numbers of plantsites, (4,5,8&11 pot sites) in different lids. This allows for easy interchange between grows if you were to switch to a different plant size or for a different strain in SOG. Once they are mad, all you need do is keep up with the normal ferty maintainence and look after your airstones. The rest is simple as letten em grow. OK. *Container & Lid. Approx $25 *Orchid net Pots, $1.15each *Bag of clay balls, (well more than needed but I dont know smaller cost). 50L bag, $45 *I have chosen a super output/ super quite airpump for this and extra fine/lots of bubbles type airstones (blue or sandstone in color). These worked out at $65 for the pump, $8 each for the stones. All these prices are in Aus$ and I didnt try to skimp on anything. Prices can be braught down with container/airpump & stone choice etc. Pump Airstones in Container. (This was just experimenting with different types of stones, now using 4 of the top airstone). A single bucket with some Adelaide Skunk 2weeks in. Nice Bubbles give nice roots. These roots are 2 weeks from the chop. Healthy roots leave the clone canopy looking lush. Now transplanted we can load a new batch.
nice operation you have going there, happy! and your plants look so healthy! p.s. i like my bubblers, too.
Thank you Mary. Yes, the bubblers are You should post a couple picks to help get this ball rollin. There has to be more ideas out there in GK land.
So bubblers are mostly for cloning? Those were cuttings, right? Do you use normal hydro solution (organic)? They look like the are submerged, the airstones give them enough O? Interesting.
JE, those systems aren't bubblers, they are drip systems. The air stone is primarily to aerate the water, secondary "bubbler". You can use them all the way from a rooted clone, to finish, but I don't know that I woould clone in it. They work f-ing great. I have seen a habanero plant go from 6" high and 8" around to about 42" high and and 3 feet around in two months. Things work phenominally!
The bubblers can be used at all stages and for all types of shapes and size grows. Using the same sort of ideas, you can make almost the most flexible of systems. I have usually had good success in cloning in rockwool but I find it to be 100% effective/cheaper and hassle free with the bubble cloner, without any hardening off time, transplant shock, gels, cubes or humidity domes. They are then easily transplanted to the net pots and put into a larger bubble system. I have successfully tried washing the soil from the roots of a 1week Glass Slipper, placed in the netpot and into a bubbler. No shock appeared and the little girl is thumping. I would not suggest bubblers from seed unless numbers are small/ area is large or you realy want as they get big quick. At the moment I run straight tap water with a couple drops of Superthrive in a 15liter clone bubbler untill I see about 50%/75% have roots. I then bump up a little nuty (Canna Veg) for a weak or untill I see verticle growth. Once verticle growth starts, (usually 14 days easy from cutting), I take the clones, place them into the buckets and back under flouros for anothr week with a slightly stronger nuty. Now they are well established & on their way, they seem to take going straight under the HID with full strenght nuty with ease. Just watch em take off.
HJ, I am with ya. Bubblers are great. I use an aero-cloner/veg machine I made from an igloo. My first shot at veg in it worked great. Rooted clones in cubes and dropped em in there to veg. Some of the biggest root masses I have ever seen on a clone. I did have some problems with wilting in the igloo on fresh cuttings, due to too much transpiration, but I have solved that, the girls perked back up and doing wonderful. I am using tap water an Olivias cloning solution.
Just thaught I might add a couple shots of the diiferent bubblers and add a small uptdate on the Romeos. Here is the Bubble Container with the 4 pot sites. And with 8 pot sites. The Romeos have been coming along nicely in the bubblers so I have been tweaking the nutes to see how they go. I found that they prefer a little less ferty (around 1.5ms). After giving them a little ferty burn, I decided to flush them for the day while I built a quick flower room. Once the room was under way, I gave the ladies, (now 16"-18" tall), a good prune & super crop, took clones and put the girls into flower. The girls in their new home. A newly thinned canopy. Under the canopy provided plenty of healthy clone selections.
Pretty much the same setup as mine! I use 3, 4-pot tubs for both veg and flower (short veg time- 1 to 2 weeks). I use 2 tetratec 96-2 pumps with 24 6" airstones. all tubs drain back to rezzy and are fed during lights on through 2 4LH drippers per pot. 10 weeks total time- 36-40" height at harvest. They work great!!!!! By the way Useless, do you trim the fan leaves prior to cloning? I've found that cutting about 1/2 of the leaf area off works fine without needing a clone dome.
That was one of the tips I had gotten THC. Ididn't do it this time around, but I will for sure be trying it out next run.
Decided to spoil the ladies today and got them an all new air sorce. She is a Haili 30 outlet and pumps round 300L/Min, Now we set for some bubbles.
Hello HJ- been watching this thread for awhile and finally found (bought) a five gallon bucket and 2 lids. I cut 6 holes in one lid for 3-inch netpots. Now, first question of, I sure, many to come. What nutes do I use for cloning? I understand, so far, tap water and ST. I would be using ThriveAlive, organic, 'cause that's what I have already. BTW my tap water is 550-600ppm but can be filtered to about 180-300 (depending on what day it is I guess, not real consistant around here ). I have had clones in rockwool for one month now and no roots, not completely dead yet, but not looking good. Next, when time for bigger net pot. How are they transplant? Do they (the roots) just pull out or do you cut the pot away from the roots? Looks tedious and intimidating with roots develpoment like that. I want to try this because I am horrible at taking clones in rockwool and I am missing out on some good opportunities for crossing and seed stock. As always, Thanks.
JE, If I may jump into the mix here... Use the filtered water. You want about 250 ppm for tap water to provide all the calcium you need. The thrive alive would be fine, (not sure if its green or red for rooting purposes, might check at the dro store for that..) Whne it comes to tranplanting, in my little experience I have found that it is much easier to fill the net pots with hydroton and then set the cutting into place. If you leave the net pot empty, you run the major risk of drying up the roots during transplant. They just sit in an air pocket until they are big enough to reach the rest of the growing medium. They will dry an dwither in a few hours if you aren't careful. Hope that helps bro! Let me know if you have any other ?'s I might able to clarify.
Jump in all you like Use. I'll accept help from any source who's name doesn't start with "star" . Anyway, I think I understand what you were explaining about transplnating, but I was referring more to a situation where the plants already has established roots in a small pot and it's time for a bigger net pot, or do you just start then in a larger net pot? How do you remove the plant and root system from a net pot?
SHould you have established roots in a small pot (say 2-3") and wish to transplant into a larger pot, just drop the whole thing, net pot and all into the next pot. Alternatively, you can safely remove the plant from its small pot just by pulling it out as long as the roots aren't entangled. Thats the beauty of net pots, drop the whole thing or pull it out, doesn't matter!
