I wanted to post these pics here since I have a hard time with the media albums. I wanted Res to check them out since hes having same type issue with his ak clones. When I get these clones that dont want to root good in the cubes (first picture). I go ahead and plant them cube and all in dirt and start light feeding. These ak's are heavy feeders so I start light for a week then full strength (well second week veg useless formula I use) and they always shape up (second pic). Here is a comparison of a two week difference from planted clones. (Third pic) then they get almost perfect in amother couple weeks. I know they look ugly (prob needed light feeding from chop?) and they are harder to clone than eaiser plants but a couple days after the wilt phaze of the clone chop if I dont plant them and start feeding they just go south. Looks like they got a mag or phosphorus deficiency, I am still working on the mix set up at start but just wanted to mention eairly planting usually shapes them up.