Why is it the DHS is participating with local LEO in Prohibition arrests? How is this in the scope of DHS mandate? Answer? It's not. LEO does what LEO wants without looking for approval. DHS feeds LEO info on Prohibition violators and gets to tag along for fun. Where does the DHS get its info on local crime? Um....well...you guessed it, NSA information stealing programs that supposedly have no interest in domestic crime nor ability to disseminate that info. Surprise! As defense attorneys across the country are realizing, NSA and DHS have been feeding info to LEO while LEO then creates a reverse investigation in order to protect the original source. DHS/NSA, it ain't just for terrorists anymore. Get your heaping bowl of violated Civil Rights today!:thumbs-up:
Yeah exactly. How often have you heard "A tip from an undisclosed source lead to the arrest." :danger:
It was just all over the news here. The sherriffs and the troopers have been using a devise called stingray. It tricks cell phones into thinking its a tower and all info is past through it. I googled the devise all last night as to how it works. Can it actually read text messages or see what your looking at online? I dint come up with much. Other Leo departments that were asked if they had/ use one refused to comment. They don't need the NSA , they got their own equipment.
Dude was sitting on all that and rolling a 13 year old Chrysler? Some folks just don't know how to live. :bduh:
Annunaki, I heard about that a few weeks ago, suitcase size thing tricks your phone into wifi mode. Best way to beat that is to turn off wifi on phone unless at home, then only allow you known wifi don't think it can read texts, it wouldn't hold up in court no matter what, but still it's enough to worry about. This dude is going away, never to see his kid for years.......thanks Obama. Notice he's playing both sides of the fence (once again solely to help dems) and allowing CO and WA to do banking (purple states) while the rest of us suffer. Stay safe people
I could be wrong , but from my understanding I din't think it involved WiFi. I thought it was any wireless transmission. I wouldn't be worried about something holding up in court per se ....more along the lines of them learning everything about everything. At that point they bust you up and your fucked . They wouldn't even have to mention the spying , at that point who cares.
So, by encouraging perjury by LEO, they are busting these people. Going into court and , under oath, swearing truth to lies. Yep, go in there looking for justice, and all you will find is just us. Clapper and others lie to Congress and no consequences. This shit has got to stop. I hope some attorney somewhere manages to unravel their "parallel investigation'" during trial and the judge stuffs the case right up the governments ass. Sure would create a nice precedent of reasonable doubt for other cases.
You mean like this one? Btw..Stingray tricks area cel phones into routing calls through their intermediary box then to the tower. They can use directional capabilities to pinpoint the source physical location of any call routed through Stingray. The claims of "not listening", or, "being unable to listen" in on any actual conversation is unbelievable. When have we ever known LEO to not take advantage of any illegal edge until told not to do so by a court? http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/dr20130806-dea-uses-nsa-surveillance-information-to-make-arrests
So , we all know LEO will do what they want. Wether its legal or not. My questions still stand , what can these technologies actually do? Record actual phone con ersations? Record actual texts? Record actual internet surfs , posts , ect ? I'd be willing to guess the answer to all the above is yes. We have rovers on mars and equipment outside our solar system.....
What do you think would happen to me if I bought a stingray? :roffl: I'm no computer wizz , but I had this idea a couple years back while sitting with a few buds at happy hour. Everyone wants to know or create the next big APP . An APP that plots all police cruisers on a map when your leaving the bar. They must give off some kind of unique signal with the technology they have pumping in them cars that can be located and plotted on GPS.
And why is this a surprise? They made it a priority to get all the intelligence departments to work together. Hell, there is a page on the DHS website called "working together with local law enforcement."
Considering having 2 beers and driving will get you a DWI in most states , it would probabaly be a great idea for the guy who got pulled over by the cop sitting across the street or around the corner waiting for the next car to pull out. There's a big difference between grabbing a beer or 2 and being wasted/drunk . I think the majority of people have the self control to know their limits. I could be wrong. But you could use that app for many things!
Hee, I was just pointing out the flaw in that idea, but I am sure it could be useful just like people monitoring on scanners.
I think it is a great idea, not so much for getting away with drinking and driving, but just to monitor the fuzz. So long as you don't interfere with an investigation, you're fine. You can "watch" the cops all day long, electronically or otherwise. Reminds me of the big smuggler who hired an ex-DEA agent to monitor the DEA, which paid off big time.
Annunaki- Something like snapchat where a user could take a photo of the copcar and enter the gps coordinates from their phone into a mapping program. Every 30 seconds it could drop and renew data. Probably be something pretty simple for a person with the know how. Of course the gov will try to step in claiming security issues and exposing cops to gangland shootdowns. Hate fuckin apps though so it ain't gonna be me who comes up with it.
Wife and I thought about having smart app with gps cord for speed traps a few years back. Sad to say, it was already being developed by radar detector companies using a subscription service. It's open market now. Seriously we were so pissed when I started looking into it and found out it was already being made, that's how it goes though. But I totally disagree with anyone that states DHS and LEO should work together. That's a true police state, no denying it, no saying it's ok.....that's a fucking police state by definition