DWC Hydro Leaves Curling Down w/ spots

Discussion in 'Hydroponic Cultivation' started by straindrain, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. straindrain

    straindrain Germinating

    Hi everyone,
    I'm having a problem I can't seem to diagnose based on my searches. My leaves are cupping down and it looks like I have mild nute burn in the form of rust spots on lower leaves (no pest issue).

    Setup:
    DWC
    Growing GDP
    Temp 72-75 F
    Humidity 40-50%
    Lucas method:GH Flora 7ml micro /14ml bloom with 2 gal res,
    (2) 105W(actual) 5000k cfl's
    Plants are about 4 inches from light.
    ppm 827
    PH hangs about 6.2/6.3 every morning before I adjust it back to 5.8
    I add water and Nutes as needed based on lucas calculation

    I have diluted the nutes in the res and ppm now reads 782.

    I also have the same plant growing in soil with compost and it exhibits the same curling of the leaves and some nute burn. I do not add nutes to the potted plant because it has nutrients in the compost mix. I water about 1-2 times per week, when soil feels dry a few inches down.

    I'm curious how they have the same problem.

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  2. teamster6

    teamster6 Guest

    They look like you have too high of nitrogen. They may be trying to lock out. Flush the hell out of em and keep the ph in the 5.8 range. Back off the nitrogen for a while


    :beerchug-2:


    Teamster6
     
  3. ncmaineac

    ncmaineac Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    they look like peppers to me


    some one will be along directly to help you...not seen that problem before...but i feel confident you will get the help you need...good luck:passsit:
     
  4. straindrain

    straindrain Germinating

    DWC Hydro Leaves Curling Down w/ spots


    teamster6,


    I thought that it was nitrogen toxicity, but I wanted to make sure. Thanks for the input. I'm curious to hear any others. Thanks in advance.


    ncmaineac,


    They do look like peppers. That's why I couldn't find anything in my searches.
     
  5. mt.king

    mt.king mud drags champion

    flower veg flower


    With those cuttings taken from a flowering plant That were reveged? :popcorn-2:
     
  6. straindrain

    straindrain Germinating

    DWC Hydro Leaves Curling Down w/ spots Reply to Thread


    mt. king,


    They were taken from an outdoor grow. I didn't see the condition of the mother. The female hairs were showing when I received them, but I don't know if they were flowering. I don't know if they have been re-vegged. Thanks for your input.
     
  7. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    They are revegged. They came from outdoor flowering plants. That accounts for the single bladed leaves. t looks like pH issues too or just too much nutes.
     
  8. straindrain

    straindrain Germinating

    rasganjah,


    Ok... I see. Revegged. That's possible as the mother was outdoors. Anyone knows what is causing the cupping leaves?
     
  9. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    give water only for a couple weeks. They should start to grow new normal leaves. Curling could be due to the fact that they were n flower mode and you gave too much N. Give just water until you see new normal growth.
     
  10. straindrain

    straindrain Germinating

    I was wondering what was wrong with the leaves. Thanks for the advice rasganjah. Any idea on the rust spots on the leaves? Thanks.
     
  11. spinkler

    spinkler Game On!

    I'm relatively inexperienced, but I would guess that's the start of Calcium lockout. According to the chart below, Calcium is only available at ~5.0 - ~5.8 pH, and I'm thinking your fluctuation could be responsible.


    I personally use hempy buckets, so I've had no experience with a reservoir setup and I know that some people with active systems adjust their pH on the fly. Personally, for the buckets, I have to pH adjust the water 8-12 hours before I plan on using it to allow for correction of any fluctuations before it goes in.


    Please take what I've said with a grain of salt, as I said I'm far less experienced than many on this forum, but I thought I'd throw the idea out there and see what discussion popped up.


    Good luck solving your problem!


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  12. spinkler

    spinkler Game On!

    I've also been looking at the Calcium section at http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688, but the early Ca lockout looks far different to your problem. The late picture looks like a slightly more advanced version of what you've got... I don't know.


    As I said, take what I've said with a grain of salt, I'm still learning too. Some feedback from the GK veterans would be awesome. :)
     
  13. straindrain

    straindrain Germinating

    spinkler,


    I agree that it doesn't look like a calcium lock out. I've been keeping the ppm within range from the start. I haven't seen anything like it, however I'm flusing them to get my ppm down to about 590 and we'll see how they are doing from there. Thanks for your input. Anyone else have any experience with the cupping leaves?
     

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