Fast & Furious

Discussion in 'Politics' started by HeadCase, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. HeadCase

    HeadCase Old Prick

    What a FUCKING JOKE !!!! Are we a third world country? Can the government do what ever they want & not be responsible ?The whole world is laughing at us .We get no respect from China ,Russia, N. Korea or Iran. Plus countries that are our allies don't even trust us.We need to get rid of all these politicians doesn't matter if they are Dem's or Rep's they are all full of shit & need to go!!!!-Bud
     
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  2. teamster6

    teamster6 A Fat Sticky Bud

    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:


    Hey dont worry about it bud MITT WILL FIX EVERYTHING but you might have to get a second job to buy your groceries.


    t6
     
  3. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    They're all getting caught up in their own lies & deception. Like roaches running from the light.


    From USA today:


    President Obama is claiming executive privilege in refusing to give certain documents to Congress concerning the "Fast and Furious" operation.


    The Justice Department requested that Obama assert the privilege regarding documents concerning the botched gun-smuggling operation.


    The news comes as House Republicans consider holding Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt over the Fast and Furious dispute.


    [​IMG] President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder

    By Brendan Smialowski, AFP/Getty Images




    In a letter to Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, a Justice Department official said executive privilege applies to documents that explain how the department learned of problems with the investigation.


    "I write now to inform you that the President has asserted executive privilege over the relevant post-February 4, 2011, documents," writes Deputy Attorney General James Cole. "We regret that we have arrived at this point, after the many steps we have taken to address the Committee's concerns and to accommodate the Committee's legitimate oversight interests regarding Operation Fast and Furious."


    Republicans said they are stunned by the president's move, while Democrats on the Oversight committee accused GOP lawmakers of carrying out a political witch hunt.


    "The president's assertion of executive privilege creates more questions," said Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind. "That brings into question whether Eric Holder knew about it and how much the president knew about it."


    In a letter written to Obama written on Tuesday, Holder said he was "very concerned that the compelled production to Congress of internal Executive Branch documents generated in the course of the deliberative process concerning its response to congressional oversight and related media inquiries would have significant, damaging consequences."


    The White House made the move after Issa and Holder met late Tuesday evening for about 20 minutes in an unsuccessful, last-minute effort to head off today's hearing to consider whether to hold Holder in contempt. Holder told reporters following the meeting that he offered to provide the documents on the condition that Issa gave his assurance that doing so would satisfy two committee subpoenas and resolve the dispute.


    Issa is particularly interested in seeing documents that shed light on why the Department of Justice decided to withdraw a February 2011 letter sent to Congress denying allegations of gunwalking.


    Elijah Cummings, D-Md., the ranking member of the committee, noted that the Justice Department had already turned over more than 1,000 pages of documents and questioned Issa's motives.


    "It seems clear that you had no interest in resolving this issue, and that the Committee planned to go forward with contempt before we walked into the meeting with the Attorney General," Cummings said.


    The investigation into the operation was spurred after Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, inquired into whistle-blower allegations that the government had allowed the transfer of illegally purchased weapons that were found at the scene of the murder of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.


    Grassley slammed the White House on Wednesday for the move.


    "How can the president assert executive privilege if there was no White House involvement?" Grassley said in a statement. "How can the president exert executive privilege over documents he's supposedly never seen? Is something very big being hidden to go to this extreme?"
     
  4. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    And a third job to buy the gas to get you to your other two jobs..


    :danger:
     
  5. MrAstro

    MrAstro R.I.P

    Fuck china, russia, n. korea, and iran :321fu:
     
  6. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: Welcome to the fold brother Bud.
     
  7. LionLoves420

    LionLoves420 Lazy Days In The Sun

    Every president does it at least a few times during their reign. No surprise.


    Glad I don't live wherever yall do. Gas is pretty damn cheap around here and food isn't that bad. Did yall think prices would stay the same forever with no inflation involved? Not to mention that oil prices have to do with companies and futures and not our government in particular.


    Fast and Furious was a failure though, yes. Not a bad idea on paper, but neither is this time machine I am building.......:bong2:
     
  8. LionLoves420

    LionLoves420 Lazy Days In The Sun

  9. SteelCity Smoker

    SteelCity Smoker To Be Continued

    Total Fuckup all the way around. They play these little chess matches with no regard for the common man, for he is an after thought. It was our numbers and will that got us here and now the will is gone and the numbers are so disorganized and preoccupied that we are FUCKED.


    2000+ weapons made it across the border under their watch all with a tracked serial #. Of those only about 500 were recovered of which 200 were picked up at crime scenes robberies, murders, arms caches etc. So there are at least 1500 still roaming.


    Wiki has a nice history with references which are interesting in themselves...


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal


    I have been pissing and moaning about Mexico for a while. I don't see an end. It's a multibillion dollar industry. The fingers that come with it too. Kidnapping, Shakedowns, crews of assassins literally roaming the streets in armored trucks with automatic weapons. It's right across the imaginary line yet we have to go "stabilize" the middle east. I see a topple effect rippling down there. They are way more organized and funded than the rags. It is only a matter of time before this goes the other way and they do end up taking the hit.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/us/us-accuses-iranians-of-plotting-to-kill-saudi-envoy.html?pagewanted=all


    Sometimes I wish this country would get it's head out of it's ass. Why do we give billions of dollars of aid to other countries when we can't cover our own ass? WHY? FUCK THEM "WE" are hurting in AMERICA you know those little people you see on the way to capitol hill scrambling to catch the bus and not be late for work cause if you lose your job these days it's not easy to just have another by Monday. China is a fucking communist country is it not??? Wasn't the FBI invented to root pinko's and the red out of America??? IS it me or are we just like pigs wallowing in our own filth and just loving it. FUCK


    Rant over...Steel
     
  10. AlienBait

    AlienBait Custom User Title

    Key point.

    I don't think Mitt had anything to do with Fast and Furious.
     
  11. teamster6

    teamster6 A Fat Sticky Bud

    What I meant was mitt will fix the mess ha ha


    t6
     
  12. Hank Chinaski

    Hank Chinaski Ruminating

    What's all the fuss?


    Nothing wrong with selling guns to the Mexicans as far as I can see.


    Don't forget, guns don't kill people. People kill people.


    :passsit:


    I'm sure just as many people would be killed if it was a knifewalking scandal instead.


    At least it wasn't something really dangerous like drugs.
     
  13. bigbudztoo

    bigbudztoo growin the good stuff

    Watergate was a fucking yawner compared to this.


    BBT
     
  14. that gringo

    that gringo Young Bud of GK

    Lol I just got back here in the states and I wanna leave this place already...my uncle was tellin me to just say fuck it,get some cash and go back and relax in honduras while the usa goes to shit....he also told me I should start moving keys of coke too.....
     
  15. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Shaping up to be Iran Contra part deux. :popcorn-2: at least some heads will role. Don't care whose or what party, just be fun watching some Washington insiders get their ass handed to-em. Issa can roast in a special hell for the repub pet bulldog he is or Obama can get pummeled black and blue and have half his cabinet locked up for all I care. As long as some Washington pig roasts I'll mark it one less asshole to worry about.
     

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