Fuck Obama!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bLITzkRIEg420, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. weedwacker

    weedwacker Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    :rofl6:


    Well the last election was our biggest entitlement program in American history so you can imagine how the average bro might feel.
     
  2. MrAstro

    MrAstro R.I.P

    As a diabetic, I couldn't be happier!
     
  3. nikoatnight

    nikoatnight Full Flowering

    Whatttttt did u really think, he was going to piss people off right away after all the hoooooohaaaaaaa lmao. I'm glad he did what he did but it's not gonna be all peaches and cream! Waitttt and see what else is coming.
     
  4. EvilSkuzzi

    EvilSkuzzi Sweet Guy

    Sharia law, what else?
     
  5. HeadCase

    HeadCase Old Prick

    Like I said we're fucked $ 825 trillion for all the pork the Dem's couldn't get in the last 8 years . I though he was going to cut out all the pork spending. He's spending our grand kids money. The big joke is it's OK to break the law if your on his team what the fuck if I don't pay my taxes I'm in jail or I loose my home you don't get to pay back taxes with out fines come on. It's no bipartisan about it you do what he want and that's it.-One Pissed Off Bud
     
  6. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Looking at the appointments, spin and good-ol-boy style we simply more more of the same in a new container. My hope is that he won't be worse but my honest fear is that we are in for crazy fucked four (or eight) years.


    The taxes...I didn't pay my taxes for three years once. A divorce and failed company took all my cash. Before I could get square the IRS had attachements on every piece of income I had. When I settled up there were penalties....damn right there were penalties and interest. More than the actual taxes in some years. Fucking buddy of Obama gets a skate and a no big deal. Fuck him...he's just another politician who sold his soul and feeds his friends.
     
  7. Mermaid

    Mermaid ~Sea Of Green~

    Dead on Snick!!

    Snick we think much alike on this topic....uggh and your dead on bro!!!


    Plus all the broken promises he made in his campaign to these loyal people who followed and yes voted for this bull shit artist??


    Love this one by Brown from CNN who just LOVED him ...hahha


    (CNN) -- I want you to hear something President-elect Barack Obama said just about a year ago:


    "I am running to tell the lobbyists in Washington that their days of setting the agenda are over. They have not funded my campaign. They won't work in my White House."


    Just this weekend The New York times published a list of names -- a rather long list of names of people -- who are working on Obama's transition team or who have accepted jobs in his White House who are either former lobbyists or who have close ties to lobbyists.


    The Times reports that some of those people were lobbying as recently as this year.


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    Hmmmmm does not sound like change yet everyone who voted and thought he was being honest now hopefully see what I predicted as many other members here about him. He like any cult leader will tell you what you want to hear then put a spin on it to justify why he can not keep the promise.


    Look who he put as his defense secretary:icon_confused:


    WASHINGTON (CNN) — President-elect Barack Obama, who campaigned on lessening the influence of lobbyists in government, has chosen a defense expert who is currently a vice president and lobbyist for one of the country's biggest defense contractors to be his deputy secretary of defense.





    Obama's transition office announced that William Lynn, an undersecretary of defense in President Bill Clinton's second term, is nominated to Defense Secretary Robert Gates' deputy.


    Lynn is currently a senior vice president at Raytheon, which has billions of dollars in Defense Department contracts and is the maker of the Army's Patriot Missile system and the Tomahawk missile used by the Navy. The company is also developing a global positioning satellite communication system with the Air Force.


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    Conflict of interest eh??? He hires the President and lobbyist at one of the country's biggest defense contractors as his Defense Secretary??? Hello??? Hmmmm so this man will want war to stop because?? LOL


    Sheshhhh and he passed the stimulus $825 billion, which will prolly end up costing 1.2 billion as it is subject to going up. What pissed me off even more then the fact you or I will not see this money but his whole stance on being bipartisan???? He passed it without the votes from the Republicans and even some Democratics. Is this the so called democracy he speaks of?? Then he wants to change the Constitution?? Well I am against it and being an Independent, I do not want his socialist views to dictate how we live and we are NOT a country that is based on socialism...well not yet. He wants to change the document that allowed this country to become the most productive and powerful on Earth – how flawed can this document be?


    Personal freedom and the right to one’s earned wealth or income from working hard for their $$$$ are two items that Barack Obama would just LOVE to have complete control over and in the hands of all branches of the federal government. If you worked hard and earned a nice income, would you want him to control it or take more from you to give to the poor?? Look if wealthy choose to help out a poor person or charity then so be it but I am all about my freedom and the fact we can have the freedom to do as we wish with out income minus paying taxes locally and federal. This whole Robin Hood crap is a joke!!! You think the poor people will make out on this?? Prolly in some capacity but do not be fooled, the government will get their share and do you really want them taking even MORE money, rights and YOUR freedom or what is left from you??? If I were rich, I would give to people I loved and frds. Not all but most do give to charities and even if they don't.....none of MY bee's wax. If they were intelligent enuff to invest or make this money on their own then good for them. We do have LAZY people in our country who sponge off government hand outs...not all but you must admit there are some people on welfare who could work. That is another system flawed and a whole other story...haha Sad thing is it was truly meant to help out those in need until they could get on their feet but then a big percentage made it their career and it went south quickly. The abuser's I speak of all have their nails done professionally, top of the line clothing and shoes not to mention check out their cell phones...lol


    Anywhos....bottom line is Obama stands for change but it is NOT the change he promised you who believed in him. He is like Hitler as another member mentioned and I did too in threads last fall. Obama is a smooth talker, wonderful at giving speeches and much like any cult leader IMHO.


    BTW.....How do you all feel about his speech when he said he is lending a hand or olive branch to the muslims??? Hey I am all about trying to make peace but as a "realist"....c'mon!!!! Not to mention NO one was supposed to bring up his full name during the campaign or want to discuss his ties to the muslim world yet when he went for his private discussion this past week, he spoke of all his family ties and living in a muslim community when he was little. Yes he never denied it when running but if anyone wanted to ask or bring it up......well you were made to feel as if you were some mean prejudice being. I am not prejudice but why did he evade any discussion prior or should I say not speak freely of it until the day he was swore in and made his speech???? If he is still around in 2012 and wants to run again will this all get swept under the carpet? Yes I know he claims he is christian and who am I to judge nor do I care what religion anyone is for lol I am no holy roller. Just think it is funny and odd how he made sure he reached out to them during his speech is all. AND his full name was mentioned when sworn in but boy ohhh boy were you frowned upon if you called him anything but Obama or Barrack when he ran. Never did he want his middle name mentioned and why? I would think it should not have been an issue if he truly thought we as American's were better then that to think we would be a racist? He is the one who preached he was for change and believed in us as a nation to put all that behind us. He failed to mention he had issues with his full name being used during the campaign until elected. When he went for his meeting, he even agreed the US was wrong as if they never disliked us or caused harm to our nation?? Takes more then one to fight a and a President should never back down or kiss ass to any country especially during a war. If he gets a peace treaty then hey....I will say I was wrong but right now I do not see that happening anywhere in our near future!!!


    I could go on and on......but he is our President and we are stuck for at least 4 years unless a civil war or him being impeached comes first. ;)


    Peace out~~ Mermaid
     
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  8. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    Here, here and a well earned Salut! to you Mermaid. Wish I had been able to clearly express my thoughts as well as you have above.


    Thanks,
     
  9. LionLoves420

    LionLoves420 Lazy Days In The Sun

    I think yall know where I stand on politics.


    But doesn't it seem like (And I don't mean us here particularly) that his opponents WANT him to FAIL!? Its like, the media either loves you or hates you. That is fine and all, but why would you WANT your head of state to fail!? We got a lot riding on our federal government right now. That scares me. At the same time, I am praying to Bajebus that something improves instead of getting worse.


    Obama can't do shit about the economy. Obama can't do shit about Pot. Obama can't do shit over gun control or Abortion. Let's see how he handles the Wars, then we will see what he can do. Otherwise, keep collecting seeds.
     
  10. ResinRubber

    ResinRubber Civilly disobedient/Mod

    I have no desire to see any presidency fail. I hope that President Obama has a sound and successful administration. It just seems that there are already cracks showing.


    In truth, I expect very little of our politicians on the national level. The Washington system has become such a perverse cesspool of greed and power that IMHO there is little an average citizen can do to either influence or correct any transgressions there.


    Obama/Bush/Clinton I dare anybody to put on a blindfold and tell them apart when it comes to domestic management. With Bush we had ties to Haliburton. With Obama we have ties to Raytheon. With Clinton we had ties....hell, to everybody with a $$ to spend. All expanded government spending at rates many times that of inflation.


    One of the things that concerns me is the "Stimulus" Package and bank bailouts. A century and a half ago Andrew Jackson risked the financial collapse of our nation and his political life on keeping the banks and our government separate. He predicted that they would be our undoing as a nation. He was right then and our current crop of leaders has not the hindsight to reference that history muchless learn from it. When it comes to stimulus it has been proven time and again that government largess, whether paid to corporations or individuals is exceptionally inefficient at creating a free flow of $$ or creating a larger pool of wealth. What has been proven to work is the relaxation of tax levels and block grants to state/local communities in need WITHOUT federal strings.


    Rant and rave...froth and foam....fuck it. It does no good anymore. I've worked numerous state level campaigns, attended numerous conventions as a delegate, sat on party steering committes. What I've seen is that the moment a candidate hits the national level they become ethically ambiguous. At that point it all becomes party politics with the reins being held by whatever group is holding majority.


    A group i worked with years ago had the opportunity to work with Senator Burdick of North Dakota. The man was in his 80's and slept the entire meeting. His staff did all the work during our discussions. When he finally woke up they told him what his position was and how to vote on our issue. The man had NO IDEA who we were or what we were working on. Our senators may have the title but it is the staff, controlled by party, that has the ultimate control.


    My plan is to become an expatriot and a move offshore when the kids are grown. Yup, best advice is to take what you got and run baby cause it ain't gonna get better in our lifetimes.


    Signed a jaded cynic,
     
  11. weedwacker

    weedwacker Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    You've got to be kidding, right? The media and the dems ran their whole campaign praying the economy would fail, that more of our troops would die each day so they could throw it in our faces, that another hurricane would come because they found they could even blame mother nature on the existing administration. It's funny how you can even print or play a democrat's exact words and you become a partisan trouble maker that gets the full court attack from the dem party. The media is finally giving us some of the truth, that had they given it before the election this bozo would not have gotten elected. If you listen to msnbc or similar outlets for your news then you have been brainwashed by propoganda, period.
     
  12. nikoatnight

    nikoatnight Full Flowering

    Get ready folks the cracks are getting bigger by the day! I was watching a show and their saying the 2 admenment is going down . They were saying it's getting very hard to get a gun these days, tons on back order also they want to make amo sooooooo expensive to buy, most won;t botherrrrr. Anyway there's more but your blind if u don't see what coming and believe your not gonna like it!
     
  13. CCrete

    CCrete Mr. Poopyfacepeepeehead

    Hey look here yall, we all can complain to till the keyboard breaks but WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?????? You guys guna buy american made products???? American cars? American clothes? American vegetables??? Next time you build something ask where the steel is coming from......CHINA!!! Why???? Bush lifted the taxes on tarriffs!!!! FREE FUCKIN TRADE!!!! WE as americans are the ones who WILL make this change OBAMA speaks of.......WE THE PEOPLE.....HE is NOT this single superman....he is here to inspire and make us aware and help....WE have to make the change in this USA....that has lost its UNITED-NESS....RISE UP and BE A TEAM of people who play together, not try and beat the other one down to get where he's trying to get to....the time of kill or be killed has just KILLED our future....we need to team-up and support the entire nation, not be an individual and bitch about it.......DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.......this country is the greatest place in the cosmos........why take a shit in your own house??????? Look at how we love what we do here...put that passion into your community or hometown....its gunna take sacrifice to be a shining star AGAIN!
     
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  14. LionLoves420

    LionLoves420 Lazy Days In The Sun

    EXACTLY. It is up to us to prepare and repair.


    Yes I am serious. People want their president to fail. If you think the democratic party wanted all this shit to go down, you are wrong. They KNEW it was going to go down already, they didn't pray for it, they worked off of it. Has nothing to do with the media, which is one sided no matter how you look at it, right or left. They don't report facts, they make them up.


    Obama can only do as well as any other president. They don't have the power to fix the problems we have now.


    But, I am tired of this stupid Obama has fucked up shit. I didn't say Bush would be the worse president ever eight years ago, and I am not saying that now. We have to wait and see. Being prepared for the worse is one thing, expecting it is giving up.


    Where is that washing of hands emoticon?


    EDIT: Once again, NOT a democrat.
     
  15. ncmaineac

    ncmaineac Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    CHRISCRETE you are killing me..i read your post and it sounds like you are coaching the az cardinals...lol....they are going to get p0unded this weekend...but your post is kind of like the knute rockne speach at notre dame....lol..very funny...


    oh by the way i am a stonch republican ...and i hope obama does well...bush did fuck us up...but so did the freggin dems in congress...they are all crooks...really...they all lie and thats acceptable....when that happens and people start to believe their own bull shit...only bad will happen...god bless mr. obama..i hope he has all the will and knowledge to make this thing better...


    BUT I DOUBT IT!
     
  16. CCrete

    CCrete Mr. Poopyfacepeepeehead

    Seriously tho NCmaine.......You gotta be tired of hearing everyone blabbing and spewing shit they have no clue about......It takes a true bias-less person to understand whats 4real goin down here in america, which is spilling over into the entire world. We as united states citizens run this shit....if we dont tighten up our lips, stop whinning and get our asses of the couch...we aint guna have a frickin couch anymore or a house to sit it in! We all claim to be smart right? Then stop taking these 10second doom and gloom bullet points from TV and radio to heart........USE YOUR HEAD PEOPLE! Theres still rednecks in the mountains that seriously believe hes the anit-christ, like 4real, they preach it in their churches, i got a guy who works for me that goes!!!!!! I mean its just pure stupidity from undereducated people anymore....They get all this broadcasted info and live on it day to day, year after year.....and by the way...our goverment ownes over 30% of all 4 major news outlets, of course they're guna back what goverment wants them to say or BOOM outa your job Mr. $1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,900,000 a year......would you talk shit to the public for a paycheck? most would!! It depends on what your patriotism is like...mine is stronger than ever.....who wants to fight with fists instead of guns? ME! its more honest and you get to know your enemy better upclose in battle, stop running america! face this shit, stop the bailouts, work to survive and win! I got caluses on my palms so hard I could hold a fire in my hand and not blink, thats from doing what made this country great and thats hard ass work! Shit people most of our grandparents had to plow their own fields to eat and live.....that shit was 60-100 years ago....not long ago...remember where you came from and dont be a bigot with a closed mind, thats what got us here, hear no evil , see no evil and hell no speak of any evil...just play ur role and hush??? Screw that


    Im not pointing at anyone, just bugged when I hear the blame game OVER and OVER from people who would curl up when it gets tough. "He did it, NO, He did it, NO, it was him"....it was US who did it to ourselves....Not a him or a her......its you and me and the other guys that wanted to live way beyond our means, just to stay as fly as the next guy, gotta have the most square footage in you home or jacuzzi tub or new SUV or gucci eyewear or who knows.....I make around maybe 75-125 a year........I got holes in my t-shirts, snot on my face and dirt under my nails constantly....Why do we have to live up to what other people expect, or do they expect anything at all? Just be honest and have a heart or enough to help out the guy who is asking for it....lend a hand sometime, fight for what you want, don't just want it
     
  17. TheApprentice

    TheApprentice Retired.

    OK,once again,here i go about the scenarios that face us foreign and domestic!

    :icon_salut:first of all....wonderful homework done in your post mermaid,i know we share different opinions on socialsm(although our premier g.brown has convinced Obama that the way to solve thee biggest debt crisis ever.....is to pump billions into the economy...over and over for a decade till they HOPE it sorts itself out,this is wrong,the ppl should be told,its time to RATION and learn how to hunt and fish and growe vegggies) but the socialist liberal govt i live under is more middle of the road,it seems in america its either leftfield or ultra right wing,theres no midle of the road politics it seems sadly and if Obama fails to live up to his policies and fucks up the wars then he could,along with if he cant fix the recesion/depression,he could very well set not just america back 100 years but all of europe too,i see the asian and arab nations gaining more and more power and your right mermaid the 1st thing Obama should have done as Pres(apart from closing guantanamo bay which i applaud:eusa_clap:),is he should be showing the enemies of the "free world" he wont be a pussy just cos hes a liberal socialist with muslim heritage,he should be condeming Hamas and Irans Hezbollah!!!:eusa_clap:GREAT INTELLIGENT POST MERMAID,I LOVE YOUR LONG POSTS:notworthy: Your the original GK long poster!!! :)


    SNICKELFRITZ :eusa_think:Interesting and valid points made there snick:icon_thumleft:Bear with me here,this aint so much a rambling but im playing out a few of your scenarios and ones you aint mentioned in my head,iv mentioned these scneraios before in this forum and yes as resin pointed out they are all WORST CASE SCENARIOS but the way things are going it aint gonna get better anytime soon,THERES NO WAY HE CAN SORT OUT THE ECONOMY WHICH IS GONNA TAKE AT LEAST A DECADE TO REVIVE GLOBALLY(MEANWHILE RUSSIA,CHINA AND THE RICH OIL ARAB NATIONS PROSPER!) and aint no way he can bring world peace and financial stability by 2012


    ,Obamas term could be the calm befoe the real storm:eek: (iv been meaning to reply to this posts for a day or so now).Pres.Obama is a HUGE target for white supremacists,even neo conservative right wing FUNDAMENTALIST christian zealot types or even scarier elements from within his own 'blackhouse'.Pres.Obama is the only president who so MASSIVELY bucks the 'trend' of the usual 'puppet' that he reminds me of another renegde puppet who TRIED for CHANGE,yes JFK,he was thee 1st cholic pres,irish blood runnin through his veins as his eneies saw it,his father was not only a bootlegging gangster who made his millions out of illefgal enterprise,his father also went on to have one of the quiet but very important jobs of being the ambassador of the USA to the UK based in London,im digressing please bear with me but my point being>>


    [​IMG] Pres Obama has a muslim heritage,growing up in Indonesia thee largest Muslim nation in the world,FACT!Son of a kenyan goatherder and a kansas mother he isnt the usual east coast blueblood who can trace his ancestors back to british lords and dukes and kings like other presidents.He ,LIKE,JFK has shown he can fly maverick,when appointed head of the harvard chair,he didnt appoint the natural or expected ppl to the jobs they thought and needed to get,he has PROVED HE CAN THINK FOR HIMSELF and he can give a good speech,a refreshing change from Dubya"we'll smoke 'em out"Bush who has left Pres.Obama with THEE BIGGEST RCEESION in all time and the USA in its largest quagmire since vietnam,Obama is gonna lay blame at Bush for a while,tony blair got away with that when he swept to power but sooner or later hes gonna have to show us what hes made of.Tony was a liberal but he invaded serbia,Iraq and afghanitand and somalia all with and without USA back up,Obama might JUST be OFFERING them peace and if they reuse he may show hes no dove but a hawk!Bush left him with the biggest financial meltdown which has now turned global affecting major USA allies like the UK and empowering stable nations like China and Russia,even Iran:eek:


    So i agree snick (theres huge resemblance to him and JFK BTW!)Not that you saiD that,what i mean is i agreE theres a huge chance the puppetters will send out one of their henchmen to cut his strings:gat:.This undoubtely will cause a race war of epic propotions and it wont all be about black or white,lifes never tht simple,think of the triads,russian mob,the coas nostra,all the hispnic vatos,the vast army of american muslims,both moderates and extremeists and alll the rest of americas 'melting pot'.its a recipe for chaos and disaster,each man for himself,local militias wil attack and overpower army bases just like the patriots id agaisnt us Brits back in the revolution,it a ycle that always repeats itself...


    What does it say in the constitution?Im going from memory but maybe it was abe licnoln that said it or it is in the declartion of independance maybe:ponder:But the jist of the wording is "the tree of liberty from time to time must be replenished by the blood of patriots and dictators",im not n intellect i got that from an ice cube quote from the film Xxx2:roll: All the same these words enable citizens to take up arms and rebels like their forefathers of the nation,also the staement /oath of allegaince to "protect ameica against ALL enemies BOTH foreign and :stop: DOMESTIC :evil4:


    Snick,you guys are lucky you have such a vast nation to battle in,we are cut of on an island and the govt can stop all inports to citizens amd starve us out in weeks UNLESS WE TOO BECOME SELF SUFFICENT,some guys in the hills near my dads power their whole building at the cost of nothing all year round using wind turbines,so much enery come of it that it also powers all his neibhouring farmr and even a local dairy procssing plant:eusa_clap:


    SNICK,another thing,we have NO ARMS AVAILABLE TO UK CITIZENS[​IMG] LEGALLY!!!!!!! THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE,THEY COULD OVERPOWER MOST UPRISINGS EASILY,although Glasgow and the west of scoland and nothern Irleand would be the final areas of resistance as apart from all the underworld guns we have available,glasgow for years has had its own I.R.A and enemies U.V.F platoons in the city and there are arms caches still in west scotland that were never decomissioned in the good friday agreementeven the IRA still have enouh semtex,and arms to wage a full scale asualt on the northern irland police and army.


    I DO NOT LIKE THE FACT WE ARE NOT ALOWED TO HAVE GUNS IN OUR HOMES OR LEGAL CARRY LICENSES FROM THE GOVT,THEY USED A TRAGEDY OF DUNBLANE TO GET ALL GUNS BANNED...:sad4:Our Govt can now hold us without charge for 28 days:icon_eek::5masked: and we have our own version the the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. ACTonly with an even more misleading name:angry7:The UK lso has more CCTV cameras than any nation in the world,on averagei appear on police cctv and security cctv over 300 times a day>FACT!


    As far as defending myself,theres no problem in that dept if it ever came to thatI know where theirs a glock.22 a shotgun and even a few army issue grenades mates have brought home from afghanistan and are locally buried(usually used in bank robberies or whatever the guys use that shit foir but i can get my hands on a PROPER weapon like you americans IF I HAD TO:icon_confused:


    :stop: the govt have used the urban city of baghdad and the rugged moutainside of Helmand to PREPARE a full out assault on UK citizens,my step dad works in a prison/assylm seeker deportation holding jail as a chef and he says the shits gonna hit the fan,i believe it...


    My mum and stepd dad have a masive garage full of food storage with barrls of wheat,grains of all kinds and water and equipment for living on the mov cos when it does hit the proverbial we gonna have to leave our homes if we live in urban areas,like the saying goes HEAD FOR THE HILLS,im already in them and not far from me is a WWII disused cottage,well it looks like a cottage,its actually a 20 storey underground bunker that was where the UK gotv and PM W.Churchill were gona run to if Hitler managed o take London,they were gonna use this place as the new ovt command,its now deserted and not many ppl actually know about it,my great uncles son is an RAF pilot and told me about it and it checks out.Britain being an ISland will need to be self sufficienmt cos all it takes is a seige from another navy to starve usout so its time to think like snick,hErb,Dazechain,seraphim,Niko,mermaid,etc and all the rest of us ppl who aint conspiracists but REALISTS and ppl who have studied the cycle of history,its not case of IF but more like WHEN?????


    ...theres MORE muslim extremeists in the UK than anywhere else,most of the taliban captured were UK muslim but british born and its a growin trend,the past sevral years have seen race riots in north enland in smaller ciies like preston and braford,etc.Now in scotland theres a huge backlash against all the eastern block immegarants who have taken over huge areas of the coty high rise buildings due to be condemned for better hosuing for the locals.


    It aint just America...ID cards are being brought in by the USA,the Uka and the EU,they will have retinal and bio scans with fingerprints and the latests facial reconition techology with our adress and job and doate pf birth along woth social securitynumber.....:icon_eek: THIS IS A BILL THAT THE UK GOVT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET PASSED IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS,things in BOTH the USA and the UK are moving faster than we think, i fosee worst case scenario insurextion in both nations and europe leading to democracy taking of its mask and revealing the faces of the true pupeteers and that is the enemy we all face,yes iam stoned but no im not trippin man,does anyone else see certain wheels in moton already at work here or are all the sheeple still following the herd:ponder:


    As for President Obama,i found it extremely interesting yet very confusing to his supporters and bullish " i told you so's" from his opponents at the fact his first major worldwide speech on tv since becoming president and interview was with al jabeyra tv which EVERY arab nation as far as im aware recieves,in the interview he says hes willing to go AGAINST FOREIGN POLICY THAT THE AMERICAN GOVT ESTABLISHMENT has had in plce for years about NO CONTACT wih Iran,he extended an olive branch and today the lunatic that is the presient of Iran responded by saying "Fuck you,we're only a year away from aiming a nuclear warhead with this jewish olive branch attached to your arse!",well my iranaians not THAT good but thats the meaning i took fom it:qbluewacko:


    Iran refuse to ever regocnise Isreal as a state and sooner or later this will lead to an arab nation getting nuclear power and doing a arabian version of Hitler and trying to take over the region,which is why saudia arabia who hate America let them have bases there,to protect them but AMERICA under dubya agreed a staggering sale of all maner of the best apaches and jets available and the UK AGREED THE SALE OF ITS NEW TOP OF THE RANGE EURO FIGHTER,:stop: why are we arming our enemies:ponder:Think it over and it becomes VERY transparent.Also PAKISTAN already has top of the range nuclear warheads capable of far worse devfastation than Hiroshima and who knows what China have got hidden behind their great wall!!!


    My point on that issue is Pres.Obama might have come across to the arabian ppl as someone who can offer them hope seeing he has muslim heritage and hence he MUST have some sort of empahy for them?But to leadrs of Al Quieda ,Hezbolah and Hamas he must seem as if they will play his 'peace game' but only till syria,egypt and Iran have enriched enouh urnaium for bombs funded by them guys ppl laugh at that our very own Uk's prince harry refers to as 'ragheads',the sheiks who own Dubai,Qutar,United Arab Emirates,these small but far richer than the rest of the earths nations pe capita(easily!!) are bankrolling a takeover,the worlkds greatest coup de tate,it might ven be a bloodless one if the EU and the USA have to go cap in hand with the begging bowl to these filthy rich arab nations that are part of the ARAB LEAGUE which is like the EU,they can overnight BUY our economies by paying allour debts and therefore the OWN us lock stock,they call the shots along with russia and chinas miltary might all without even having to use their own army,the collps of the economy has been a mixture of cunning enginnerring and blatant blunders ,either way it should never have been regualted or allowd to even happen and now China,Russia and the Arab States lie in wait like a pack of wolves,well fed and plenty food n supply ,while we suddenly find ourelves their prey and also the prey of our own govt's.Every century has a world war,why should this one buck the trend.


    I BELIEVE PRES.OBAMA WILL TRY TO FOLLOW THE TONY BLAIR BLUEPRINT(no not the dubyas poodle blueprint but the ireland blueprint but that was a feud hundreds of years old,this ones ben going on since time began almost),i believe he will be the 1st president since jfk to challenge the order of certsin things,even if it leads to his demise,as for tony blair(who now happens to be the UN peace envoy to the middle east due to him finally ending the "troubles" in Northern Ireland)hes remembered for lying to the UK public about WMDs inm Iraq but his real legacy will always be to end hundreds of years of blloshed between catholics and protestants by giving them their own power sharing devolved gotv(still owned by the UK though),his legacy is what Obamas will maybe turn out ot be regarding the middle east by making an army of soldiers turn to an amry of politicans in their own devolved govt but to do that Israel must yield jerusalem and more and they will not and whether Obama backs them or not they will not stop till Hamas are all dead,just like Munich:icon_wink:


    If Obama isnt assasinated,that will mean hes let the puppeteers[​IMG] pull his strings and is toeing the lne,however i think we have a man with a plan but then gain bush and chenney had a plan and look how that workedout:5masked: :fingermad:


    .... but if he tries to be like JFK and pull his own strings then i believe he will be taken out whether by his own men,supremacits,right wing fundamentalits with a 'rapture' agenda to "bring about the end of days":rolleyes::5sigh: OR MUSLIM OR JEWISH TERROSISTS OR EVEN mOSSAD:gat: would take him out if they feel he favour Hamas,think that one over:5eek:


    :yikes: I share your concrns snick,but i BELIEVE America will have bettter credentials now around the world than if crusty old McCaine and Crazy SARAH pALIN ha taken power:eek: but then again if Obama Is REALLY a man who is gonna purge washington from the insidie out then he REALLY does risk getting clipped and become the new centurie martin luther king/JFK.:sad4:


    I firmly believe that JFK was killed by elemts on all sides including spooks on his own side and LEO on his own side who conspired against him for 3 reasons,


    #1>He left many veterans to die in the bay of pigs invasion of cuba when all he had to do to help them men escape was call in an airstrike ,he refused ALL military pleading as he was furious the CIA had 'pulled this if withut his knowledge'(afterwards him and Bobby started to clean house much to ppls dismay,ppl like the head o the CIA who was sacked,yet just so happended to be on the warren commision report pnel that wrote a fairytale story about a majic bullet:qbluewacko: ,also the man in question was the mayor of dallas or governor i think of texas(summit top brass) who were involved in changing the PresJFK's route via the triangulated cross fire in the road with the book depository and grassy knoll,et. Pres.LBJ was in on this and images of him being sworn in with jackie kenneday standing blood soaked make me grimce:anrgy7:


    #2> He LET russia set up nuclear bombs aimed at ameica that could have in minute destroyed half of the nation,his military advised all out attack as the russians were ust teting his will but he decided to do a diplomatic 'blockade' which enraged again the US CIA and Miliatary,then he was preparing to bring home the troops from vietnam and that would have saved a LOT oflives but also a lot of govt contracts for arms would have been cancelled and a lot of big players would have lost a lot plus the hawks in washington saw this as him yielding to the ever growing communist regimes worlwide backed publically by russia and siletly by china and here we have came full cirlce in IMO:EEK:


    #3> His final nail in the cofin was his threat to take apart the cia but by bit and make a new agency,the old boys network could let this happen plus he pissed of the mafia who got him elected via unions yet bobby kennnedy went afte them rentlessley!


    But you wanna know the final and telling thing that not a a lot of ppl know about the death of JFK?Before he left on his 'tour' he had signed an executive order 001000 or whateve number and in it it TOOK HE POWERS AWAY FROM THE CENTRAL BANKS and the FEDERAL RESERVE and gave America the POWER to mint its own money and control its own economuy once more instead of the banks,prs garfield and pres lincoln also both died trying to pass he same act,after the assasination of JFK,lyondon B Johnson reversed nearly EVERY decison JFK made,but the last one JFK mad regading the money was th first one thrown out the wndow and here we find ourselves once again in an era where the muslims are the new comunists and the economy is at an all time low,his presidency is limited in its powers and thats cos the puppeteers wanna put him on short lesh for now and you know what they say when in peacetinme prepare for WAR!!!!


    SNICKELFRITZ amigo:ebert: i dont expect you to reply to my endless thoughts and theories and questions raised in my stoned ramblngs,lol,although i welcome all and respect alls opinions on this but SNICK can you HONESTLY say that given the choice of a MARTIAL LAW and mass REBELLION taking place in Amrica,who would you rather have in power George W Bush or even McCaine-Palin or Pres.Obama,SERIOUS QUESTION:ponder:


    I think some prime ministers and prsidnts are the right ppl to be in power at the right time and some like dubya and his post 9/11 flawed plan and doctines are the wrong ppl in charge of the nation at the wrong time.I feel your worry about whats round the corner snick but i also see a man who i think is gonna make the most out of his presidency, whtrh that means good or bad time will tell:eek:


    Maybe Obama is the right man,rther than McCaine to lead ameica at this tme,he at least has offered the arab world an olive branch but i think him being brought up in a muslim nation would realise it NOT about peace for syria,Iran,Saudia Arabia,etc they see us and our lifestyle as decadent and we are the infidels,the godless society hat they think Allah wants them to go to war with,this has ben brd into them fo thousans of years,4 or even 8 years in ofic if he make it that long wont even give obama time to settle and solve the ever wrosening econmic crisis but to think he can settle the whole region of the arab world and its neighbouring african allies will never submit to a world that i niot fully islmaic and i guess you could say the same about a lot of christian based counties...one nation ppl aint alking about right noiw and i dont know WHY THE FUCK????


    Cos all this talk about an islamic nation like Iran nearly a year away from a nuclear bomb....FUCK PAKISTAN AND INDIA ALREADY HAVE A STACKOF THEM POINTED AT EACH OTHeR,PAKISTAN HAS THE NUCLEAR BOMBS IRAN SEEKS AND THATS WHY WE CANT JUST LEAVE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN,theres GOTTA be a clear and sound exit plan with military bases and shit set up for life just like saudia arbaia gave america for protecting them in the first iraqi war... this shits about to get interesting... pop question though>

    question americano growkinders>>>WTF do all you americans think of obama chosing to go to an arab natwork for his first major global interview....'genuis' or 'get the fuck outta here'!!!:ponder:




    :eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO READ THIS FULL POST,I TRIED NOT TO RAMBLE AS MUCH AND MADE IT MORE CONSTRUCTABLE AND GAVE IT A BIT OF AN ARC,HOPE I DONT GIVE Y'ALL NIGHTMARES NOW:tvlaugh:peace:potleaf: [​IMG] CAN WE??
     
  18. MK-Ultra

    MK-Ultra Excommunicated

    Did someone say vote with a bullet? Mermaid and T.A. I can't express how much I agree with your statements. The entire world is getting fucked from all angles the problems we are facing today are far more reaching than our own countries. We are all being played for chumps...


    For quite along time I've dismissed all of the "conspiracy theories" but everyday the truth seems to shine through. Everything that America once stood for has been flushed down the toilet. If you have guns I'd suggest you hide them until the time comes, we're going to need them. The founding fathers of America stood up for their beliefs they didn't take the easy way out. The old saying that goes I would rather die on my feet than live my life on my knees should be a calling for us all.


    Heres a few quotes that should get the real patriots fuming


    If you would persuade, you must appeal to interest rather than intellect.


    Anyone think of Obamas campaign?


    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.Patriot act????


    Wish not so much to live long as to live well.


    Anyone that takes convenience over personal sacrifice


    Creditors have better memories than debtors.


    The federal reserve!(not a government entity but a private institution)


    If we as individuals do not change are ways we are FUCKED!!!


    So in short FUCK THE GOVERNMENT! FUCK CORPORATE AMERICA!


    STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND TRUE NOT WHAT IS CONVENIENT!


    Sorry for the rant I'm fucking pissed off at the status quo AND IM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  19. ncmaineac

    ncmaineac Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    Apprentice


    i read your entire post...it would have taken me half the time if you could fucken spell...lol....and figureing out your uk sayings is pretty funny....


    a couple of things you didnt mention...usa went over 7 years without another attack on our nation...pretty good i think...its not like they didnt try...we stopped several attempts..


    you might not know this but in the usa the pres does not contral the money..congress does...and we didnt have any problems until the dems took over a couple of years ago...you really cant dispute that...its simply true...


    we got rid of sadam hussein...a real prick..it needed to be done with or without wmd's and btw imho bush and blair didnt lie...they were told there was wmd...i know there are people that dont believe that...but in my heart i believe that bush is more honest than most politicians...thats just my humble opinion..


    " theres MORE muslim extremeists in the UK than anywhere else,most of the taliban captured were UK muslim " this is what you said..not sure this is true...lots of extremeists in afganistan and pak and india and indonesia...lots of places in the world...not sure which extremeists you are talking about..


    and last i would like to ask you a question..can you name some things that bush did wrong that you dont think he thought was in the best interest of the usa...i know thats confusing but i believe on most if not all of his decisions he thought he was protecting the us citezens...that was his number 1 job was to look out for us ...the us citezens...


    actually this is last..what kind of reefer were you smoking for that ramble..i want some...lolol...good job...:smokin:
     
  20. MK-Ultra

    MK-Ultra Excommunicated

    Private Interests Control the money check it out its true...But Hey just keep watching your T.V. Its a reliable source of information.....:5headache:
     

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