I would just like to put on the record, that in fact, a HUMAN SHIELD, after living in iraq and talking to actual iraqis, is now for the war. http://forums.aclu.org/messageview.cfm?catid=33&threadid=4260 Title: Human shields admit they were wrong. Bush is right. Saddam must go; Ours war is a just war. One said the trip "shocked [him] back to reality." The Rev. Kenneth Joseph, an American pastor with the Assyrian Church of the East, told the Times that some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera told him they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. "They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny," Joseph said. "They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head." Many abandon mission, accuse Iraq of using them WorldNetDaily.com http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31710 As the coalition bombs drop across Iraq, many anti-war protesters from around the world seeking to serve as human shields for the Iraqi people find themselves caught in the crossfire. The London Independent reports a British human shield has not been heard from since the initial bombing last week. Leo Warren, 44, from Feltwell, Norfolk, is one of seven British human shields believed to be still in Iraq. In his last e-mail to family hours prior to the initial "decapitation" airstrikes, Warren raised concerns that he and other members of the group were being manipulated by the Iraqi government. When the protesters arrived in Baghdad in February, they intended to position themselves at schools, orphanages and hospitals. But Iraqi officials ordered them to deploy at water-treatment centers, bridges and power plants. "They removed us from the sites we had chosen because we were critical of the integrity and the autonomy of the Iraqi authorities," organizer Ken O'Keefe told the Christian Science Monitor before the conflict began. He told the London Telegraph he was manipulated by Iraqi authorities, and when he tried to defy them, he and five other human shields were kicked out of the country. Nowakowski said his trip taught him that "things were a lot more complicated than they seemed in a lot of ways." Even before the war got underway, many human shields reported a similar epiphany. Daniel Pepper, a 23-year-old Jewish-American photographer, also admitted to the Telegraph that he had been duped by Saddam's secret police. "Anyone with half a brain must see that Saddam has to be taken out. It is extraordinarily ironic that the anti-war protesters are marching to defend a government which stops its people exercising that freedom," Piper wrote. "Perhaps the most crushing thing we learned was that most ordinary Iraqis thought Saddam Hussein had paid us to come to protest in Iraq," he added. One said the trip "shocked [him] back to reality." The Rev. Kenneth Joseph, an American pastor with the Assyrian Church of the East, told the Times that some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera told him they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. "They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny," Joseph said. "They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head." Meanwhile, Iraq has other human shields at its disposal. U.S. forces said yesterday they were treating several wounded civilians at a captured airbase in southern Iraq who said they had been used by Iraq's military. At a press conference today, Air Force Maj. Gen. Victor Renuart accused Iraqi forces – the Fedayeen militia in particular – of "terrorizing neighborhoods" and using civilians as human shields. "Human shields are a cowardly way to act on the battlefield," Renuart said. "We will not put our troops in the position where we would disregard the safety of any noncombatants
What a crock. Trying to make someone believe that if we didn't drop a bomb on him he was going to kill himself. And you believed it ss. GET A GRIP!!!
Why ranger, are you saying your people are to you? Are you calling the pastor, a man of the cloth, a fibber? Or are you just STILL in denial?
Over here we've had men of the cloth abusing kids!!! Not all of them tell the truth! Thats not to say that Saddam isnt as bad as hes made out to be. Im sure hes just as bad a Chiron and the rest with their terrorism. (Edited by jay at 4:23 am on Mar. 28, 2003)
