LED - Lets get serious

Discussion in 'DIY LED Builds' started by DXE, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. DXE

    DXE Moderator

    Here is a picture of the 20 inch unit. The thirty has 1 more cluster and the 40 has two more

    strip led 20 inch.jpg

  2. Discorilla

    Discorilla Shining like a Discoball!

    This thread just gets me more excited about when I am going to meet up with Lush. I never got the chance to talk too much shop with him on the fine details of it. I just know they have a team of engineers that are going to make what I want happen. I'll even get to sample it free of charge, before anyone else gets a whack at them, just to make sure that this is going to be as effective as my current methods.

    I told them there are hundreds of people who would switch to LED overnight with something like this. It's unique, and no other company is going to have anything like this. I can guarantee that one! The only suggestion I could have would be to up the intensity of light as much as possible. Cost effective is not a thing with this tech. It's the game-changer type of tech, so I am expecting an increase of yields by at least 25%, once I make the switch.
  3. DXE

    DXE Moderator

    One thing I have learned is to learn and talk the tech first - little things like brand and model of the chips used, drivers used etc make all the difference
  4. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Hmm I wonder if rapid is just modifying LED light bars originally made for trucks. That 20" says those are off road modules.
  5. DXE

    DXE Moderator

    preliminary pricing

    I just got some preliminary pricing info from Rapid for the new units.

    PLEASE keep in mind this is preliminary!!!!!

    I'm still not 100% sure on pricing, there are some last minute things (ie. enclosure box for drivers) that we're not sure if we're including or will be selling as add-ons (you have an opinion on that either way? If there's no box for the board it's just going to look something like the attachment). Once we finalize it I'll have final pricing, but it should be roughly $300 on 20" units and about $450 on 40" units. On smaller units like the 20's there is an opportunity to run multiples off one power supply, so it might be something like $800 for 3 units.

    For mounting, you're basically going to have a piece with a 1/4" hole that you can mount with. We do supply you with a hanging kit (similar to the old one, but instead of bolting on directly it's a hole that you'll screw through) but it's hard to describe in words. Once you see it you'll know what I'm talking about and I can give you any dimensions that you need.
  6. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    can they run on old power supplies?
  7. DXE

    DXE Moderator

    YESAttached is a picture of the driver circuit board mentioned in the post.Personally I have no issue with just the board as it will mound just as shown on the power supply but others may want to pay for a pretty case....I personally like the industrial power suppy, all my power supplies are centrally located on small shelves - keeps inside the grow space nice and neat.I like the option of using multiple lights on a single supply as well as running 220 VAC if I chooseOne of the things I really like about the old units (Bloom Onyx) is the simplicity. No fancy cases or even large units to hang, simple setup. NO CONTROLS, and spectral output as good as the horitlux eye... What more could you ask.I really like the price points - if the light is as good as Rapid is telling me and based on their choice of LED and driver I must say I cant wait to get my hands on these.Better LED, lower power consumption than the 10w led's used in the Bloom units, more coverage and due to less power consumption - less heat....Sounds like a good deal - stay tuned. LDD Board on SE Power Supply.jpg

  8. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    The pricing is attractive but do we have an ET for their release? I'd settled on 10 of the bloom units for my new space but now with these new units about to be released I'm once again on the fence. DXE you know the timeframe in working with, any chance these babies will hit the streets in next couple of week? I pretty much need to be about to fire up lights in a couple of weeks.
  9. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    And I'd be happy to skip the fancy cases too. :)
  10. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    so yea, whats the best way unit to cover my outers? if i get a 40" and combine with the other units would I get a nice 3x4 area of coverage?

    I do have a question though, I'm still three weeks out and my size isn't where I think it should be, what's up with that? density is there for sure, even on lower branches that don't get light, led is killing hps there, but I have a table a week behind under 1k hortilux and the buds are slightly bigger even though less dense.

    help a brotha out.

    Would a 40 inch unit help make up the difference so I don't have to worry about the outer edges so much or is that overkill?
  11. Justcheckingitout

    Justcheckingitout GK Old Timer

    When I first read this thread a while ago, I got a stiff'ie, now look out :budporn:

    Growing with leds is getting good. Rapid is a great company, did I mention I love my onyx bloom lights? :wav::banger3:
  12. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    Id never think I would do an led grow until info here and watching you guys. I think it will be some time before they replace hps, but its a great product and isnt nearly as hot
  13. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    I wish more of you guys would do some DIY setups. Onyx is a great light. Little cheaper than A51 when they introduce lights. Pretty equal too, the guys that own both RW-150s and onyx pull the same, though the a51 is ~70W less. Either way. If you have used either companies lights and like them you would love a COB light. If I expand again I'll be making another rig myself. Unless someone puts out a cost effective cob light and then I may buy another prebuilt.

    Sally skims is talking about building a CXB 3590 light. Just a little 200w either 4 or 8 cobs at 700mA depending on if 72v or 36v . @700mA 72v dissipates ~50w and 36v ~25w. Though the 36v at that current is more efficient so you get more photons per watt, though upfront cost is higher. So interested to see what's chosen and for that to come to life.
  14. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

  15. nippie

    nippie preachin' and pimpin'

    Skunky :cat2:

    I guess I dont understand enough to know how to do dyi so my hats off to you. Im sure you could build exactly what im asking if you know what I want. I just cant because honestly I just dont know enough.

    But I do see a market for indoor small gardens large scale with this technology
  16. friendlyfarmer

    friendlyfarmer Rollin' Coal

    I need to light up a new 2x3 table in 4 weeks.

    I was gonna go with two Onyx units but now I want a single 30"er.


    My two cents - I have 16 of the old onyx units over 6 2/4 tables. I'm knocking it outta the park. My only issue is the FOOTPRINT!! So I want to know if the new lights spread that out successfully.
  17. Justcheckingitout

    Justcheckingitout GK Old Timer

    The diy is not so hard, skunkys thread he made is pretty straight forward, Its just a matter of getting the material and doing it. While its not super cheap, its got alot of perks that you will love and you will save more in the long run and start saving right off the bat. The lights will pay for themselves quick Plus all the other perks.

    I need to switch hands now....:roffl:
  18. skunky

    skunky labor smoke'n lumberjack

    Speaking of. As I told sallyskims I still need to redo that how to. Just sucks I've been posting without a laptop for months. Mine has some stupid bullshit going on I need to work out. About to do some transplanting, cloning and watering. Then laundry. Maybe I can get started on that tonight.
  19. ducrider

    ducrider growing your mamas weed

    More lights is the answer until these larger lights are readily available. I've been working out the layout for two 5'x6' flower rooms and I don't think a single row of lights is the way to go. I'm thinking I'll need 2 rows of 3 or 4 panels over 8 to 10 plants to get the results I'm looking for.
  20. DXE

    DXE Moderator

    I am goin g to cover twelve plants - three rows of four with four of the thirty inch units

    Each row of pots will be under a single bar

    Should be fine

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