It's going to be big brother only way more intrusive youy could ever imagine.To say this will be unconstitutional would be the understatement of the decade. WTF are we doing to ourselves in the name of so called security. It just makes me want to vomit. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1 Here are a few highlights from the above link. But “this is more than just a data center,” says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handle—financial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communications—will be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.” The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy. In the process—and for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administration—the NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic net. And, of course, it’s all being done in secret. To those on the inside, the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything applies more than ever. the agency could have installed its tapping gear at the nation’s cable landing stations—the more than two dozen sites on the periphery of the US where fiber-optic cables come ashore. If it had taken that route, the NSA would have been able to limit its eavesdropping to just international communications, which at the time was all that was allowed under US law. Instead it chose to put the wiretapping rooms at key junction points throughout the country—large, windowless buildings known as switches—thus gaining access to not just international communications but also to most of the domestic traffic flowing through the US. The network of intercept stations goes far beyond the single room in an AT&T building in San Francisco exposed by a whistle-blower in 2006. “I think there’s 10 to 20 of them,” Binney says. “That’s not just San Francisco; they have them in the middle of the country and also on the East Coast.”
This is just an upgraded version of echelon. They've been doing this already for decades, pretty much just catching up with technology.
True, but this is the final piece of their data mining puzzel that will tie all ends together. Maybe it's time to go back to two cans and a string if you want to have a secure conversation.
It aint no thing. You fight fire with fire. You fight technology with technology. There are better ways than the old ways to get around anything the government does. The people who decide to fall out of society will be easier to find than those of us who work around any government bullshit. Easier to find a minority than a majority.
They've been doing this for a long time already. Tapping and listening for key words in speech and text is what began the final search for Bin Laden. Grocery stores do when you scan your store club card at the register. They keep track of who buys what for marketing and stocking data. Cable companies do it to find out what programs are being watched. Life isn't as anonymous as some of us think.
Sure, nothing to worry about. You can't do anything about it anyway. Best just to take another bong hit and forget about it. :redbong: Admin lynching
Example one of the government's stupidity when it comes to security and electronics: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/fbi-fails-break-pimp-android-pattern-lock-serves-192617057.html
What do you guys think of the smart meters being rammed down peoples throats? http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/publish/Technologies_Metering/Smart-meters-can-spy-on-TV-viewing-habits-researchers-claim-4017.html Some one said we cant do anything about it...Another said the answer to 1984 is 1776. We the People are the government, Its there To serve US not the other way around. A good starting place would be to inform all you know of this fact. The Obama deception is a helpful tool for those choking on the blue pills. Re-educate all you can that we live in a Republic...not a democracy. Our rights are guaranteed by the Constitution . Wake em up....many want guns gone.... Suggest to them to read what the Nazis did and every other totalitarian regime does...and what they do after they disarm the People. If i could say one thing...just care, give a fuck enough to talk to your buds if nothing else. "Give me the power to issue money in a country and I care not who make the laws" ----Baron M.A. Rothschild Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson Ben Franklin
Toker, I believe Sirius XM radio the same system to track their users listening habits as well.I'm not sure how that infringes on my rights although I guess that depends what else can be done with that information. Not an Obama fan here but what blue pills would I be choking on if I were?:bong-2: Cheers
i was not refering to you or any one person, Just the population as a whole. Reports are these meters can see what you do etc... I hear in cali they are making folks get em????
I think I said this before in another post, but. The smart meters are meant to help control your electronics so they perform when they need to, and are using less power on the off times. However, the device attached has to be compatible for this to work. So even if you did have one of the smart meters it would see your grow lamps just like it sees them now, as energy use and nothing else. Unless a grow company was dumb enough to make their devices compatible, there is no reason to worry about this technology. It isn't as smart as it sounds.
Not the kind of meter I was thinking of at all. You're talking about a smart electric meter that's installed on your home by your local power company. My bad what I was thinking of is actually called a people meter. http://www.arbitron.com/portable_people_meters/thesystem_ppm.htm Not the same thing at all. Duc
