[YOUTUBE]CySzoJFkTA8[/YOUTUBE] These two came onto my facebook news feed from MN Norml. MN Norml has a ton of good articles on various medical marijuana, legalization, and drug war topics. I highly recommend subscribing to it. . . . .
Private prison's should be outlawed. That's slavery, just like the guy in the video said. When your profits are generated by keeping people locked up, how hard are you going to work to get them rehabbed? But, on the other hand, county and state jails and prisons that have work programs do pretty well. I know a couple guards that work at the county near me and they said the inmates love to work and violence goes way down when they are allowed to. Keeping them locked up in cages all day isn't doing anything to get them to change their ways. Giving them something to do like the rest of society helps reform them. I've always thought that if you offered inmates jobs working in the fields, illegal immigration would drop dramatically. You could pay an inmate less and not worry about workers comp or insurance matters. They have better medical coverage than most of us. It would cost less to legally employ inmates than to illegally employ illegal aliens that go home at night and have the ability to go out and cause trouble.
It's a disgrace the number of people locked up in the US. What was the last number I read.....something like 1 in 3 U.S. adults is has either been jailed or is on probation/parole. We have become a Nation of overbearing laws and now private incarceration for violating those overbearing laws. Human morality...not the Judeo Christian sacred morality god forbid......is f right out the window.
Yeah, I'm all about allowing the inmates every sane chance to do some forms of work that build a person up, to of course include farming, so long as ANY of this work isn't under the burden of a strap across the back. We need to stay WAY FAR away from forced production of profits for some firm owning the inmates labor as a means to increase profits, at the FAR below the legal minimums a non-convicted person "has," for now. I know there are no sane work a rounds some time, but when we as a people, run to wal to save .5$ we are slowly allowing labor camps, as used by the chinese, to become more prominent, and you won't see, in the US, jobs, wages and benefits go ANYWHERE but down per our own actions. If a prison is allowed to start doing these very things here? it's just wrong too many ways to count. Never look down on an inmate, look down on the sad reality of the prison system, but never look down on these people, facts are, EVERY PERSON, is ONE bad day away from being an inmate. keep that in mind, before you start to look down on these people, or to say they deserve, this or that, and think about these things when you ponder how free we really are. I hope it isn't a labor camp for profit.
Yeah i know what you mean but one thing to bear in mind is that many inmates are happy to get out their cell and do work,breaks the day up and most prisons give a small token wage for prisoners to spend at the canteen,etc. A little job in jail can make all the difference:bong2:
Well said. Private prisons are a joke,they have incentives to reach. Over here at private prison gets fined if their prisoners assault one another or if drugs are found etc. Sow what usually happens is the private prisons neglect to report such incidents. I know people in the private prisons,they hate it cos theres no order.The inmates run the place which aint a good thing obviously. Prisons for profit is a bad idea,just like hospitals for profit. Work in prisons,as long as their is some sort of wage for the inmate then i reckon its a good thing.Peace:bong2:
Yeah, I've seen where in many US fed prisons, they get out of the cage, one hour a day :BangHead: As long as it builds them up, awesome.
private prison should be illegal. where the incentive to reform the convict? you are getting paid to keep him there, so why not extend his stay by saying he assaults staff, or deals drugs? simple economics at work, incentives are a powerful thing, to pay someone to put another in a cage seems inhumane because feeding your family depends on keeping another in confinment whether it's deserved or not
I:m with you 100% on that one. I was saying something very similar in a different thread not too long ago. :bravo:
Private Prisons publicly traded on the stock market drive up the value of their stock by keeping higher numbers of prisoners. So-when the CIA hauls in 800 metric tons of heroin from Aphganistan, and the prisons order 500,000 beds-their stock price goes up. So first-they take your money and turn you into an addict Then they make money by turning you into a prisoner.. The cause and the cure. Nothing like double-dealing on your health and freedom for profit.
I did some work in a few high security prisons down in AZ owned by CCA (Corporate Corrections of America). They have a shit ton of prisons way out in the Arizona desert and are building more every day. They ship in prisoners from all over the country. I hated going to those places. We were working in the kitchens right along side the residents. Every time we went in they did a COMPLETE inventory of every single thing we had on us and in our tools. 58 screws, 12 wirenuts, 16 zip ties, 24 feet of 18 awg wire, 1 wire strippers, 1 screwdriver, etc, etc. Every single thing. Then they did it again on the way out. It would take over an hour just to go out to your truck to get something because you had to pack everything up and take it all with you, then go back through security again. It sucked. Even though most of those guys seemed like just regular ol' guys laughing, cutting up, and having a relatively good time, it's still a bit scary because your IN a max security prison and your mind starts running away with all kinds of "what if" scenarios. I was chatting with one of the meathead guards on my way in one night and asking him how a corporate prison works. He said basically each prison is subcontracted by a certain state. For every inmate they house they get a fee from the state (your tax dollars). Maybe 6000 a month per inmate. If they can house them for 4000 or 2000 a month, they get the rest. He says "Yeah, we are supposed to "rehab" them while they're here, but you know how that goes". and he kinda snickered a little bit. He actually did the air quotes when he said that. It's all a big scam.
I was in a "for profit" county jail once. The food service was contracted-and thats how that guy made his money-by saving whatever he could by feeding us food that was a year past the expiration date. He claimed that it was all frozen so it didn't matter. To my knowledge no-one ever died from it-and actually he fed us pretty good-but you wouldn't be able to serve it to anyone else but prisoners. Can't sell it in a store or a restaurant. Evidently there is no health inspectors inspecting the prison kitchens.
