I will get a pic posted tomorrow, but here's where I am at, I started one 10 gallon tote with 2 net pots for the first few weeks of veg. The lid will fit my 14 gallon tote I am going to use for flower. The 10 gallon tote filled to just about the bottom of the pots was 4 gallons. I may have to go with a 18 gallon for flower??? the totes all use the same lid, so no big deal there. Got two clones I used that sprouted out of the rock wool cubes, sprouts are about 2-3" long, and put them on about 1" of clay pellets in the net pots and filled the rest of the pots to the top with the clay pellets, the clones are good and healthy but they have the pre bud deal going on, this happened in the clone dome, got it with the last round of C99 clones I had also, but those are in flower now in soil and look yummy! Ok, moving on, for today, I got my water ph level lowered from 8 to about 5.8 and left it be. I think tomorrow I will check again and add the first week's nutes using the GH3 "Useless" formula. How long till I can expect the roots to start coming out of the pots into the water? Also the air pump I got, is HOT, it's the commercial (Eco air 1) with the heat sink housing. Is this normal? It's way hot to the touch. I plan to run 4 totes with it down the road. I think it does 38 liters per min. So I guess I am a official hydro grower now after 13 or more years of growing in dirt, man I wish I would have done this sooner, way less mess. not having to wash my hands after the work was weird....:roffl: opcorn-2: Special thanks to CC, T6, and Growing in TX for all the extra questions I had, and thanks to everyone else who chimed in on my threads about this.