I have posted else where on this site about my new DWC/cloner. If I decide to use it as a cloner, it has a capacity for 90 clones (not that I would ever need that many). And if I decide to veg, it has capacity for 18, I know they would need more space to fully grow and flower, but I think I'll just run a perpetual garden with it using clones (that way they don't need to get big), the mothers will be kept in the ebb&flow. What do you think, anyone? Here's the pics, it's actually very simple how it works: Here are the inner workings, the disc spins above water level and the center shaft is tapered somewhat. As the shaft spins water/solution is pulled to the disc because the water/soultion is cohesive and climbs the shaft because of centrifugal force and inertia throws the solutiion off of the disc onto the roots. Very Simple, very effective! I had roots hinting on my clones at the end of the 2nd day. (Edited by Joint Effort at 3:30 pm on Oct. 26, 2003)