Charlie Sheen

Discussion in 'Smokers Lounge' started by ScottyG420, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    I'll fight you all day that Ganja is not a drug and can't even be used as a comparative! So forget that argument. See it how you want. I could care less if the whole world worships the guy as god almighty, I still think he's a fucked up role model and basically a self absorbed douche. But that's my OPINION. You can see him however you like. Look up to him if that's what you want. This isn't entirely about drug use though and I have done my fair share of actual drugs back in the day,..... but I pulled my head from between my ass cheeks and got on with a real and productive life. :thumbs-up: :passsit:
     
  2. ShadowWarrior

    ShadowWarrior In The Spirit Realm

    yeah, I'll take my 15 minutes of fame:mashed:
     
  3. gizmo_barks

    gizmo_barks Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    I've been a fan of Ozzy for 40 years. He screwed up his life after Black Sabbath... Well, During, but still. Sharon Is the brains and had the connections in the family. Don't get me wrong, I love Ozzy. I think Ozzy is a genius. :not-worthy:


    I'm amazed every time watch him. For real, How many people can do to their body what he did to his and still be on top. How many times did he die? Something I would rather watch than live if u know what I mean.


    peace.


    G_B
     
  4. gizmo_barks

    gizmo_barks Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    He has millions of followers.

    Just like?


    I know none of us here are shining examples, but the choices he's making could be better, don't u think? How many people would really put a $50 Million contract at risk? His fame will pass... then what? I'll take th $50 Million.


    peace


    G_B
     
  5. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    I could care less about Cahrlie really, ...... But .......


    I am aware of the technical definition of the word "Drug". I have some problem with that definition as it pertains to Natural unaltered plant substances. The word "Drug" as it pertains to things like Crack, heroine, Methamphetamine, etc. inspire thoughts of hard narcotics with proven and extremely detrimental effects on people. Things like Caffeine, Ganja, Chocolate, those are also by definition "Drugs" However saying that they are on par with the afore mentioned chemically altered substances is in my opinion asinine. You sound like a DEA agent...... "Marijuana is a drug, just like crack, heroine, and meth." That's complete :bs: :passsit:
     
  6. hydromorphone

    hydromorphone Excommunicated

    Marijuana is a drug as in it alters body chemistry. It has a ton of uses and truly is a versatile plant. When used properly it can do great things for a user. However like anything that can be abused it has negative consequences as well. I believe this is the grounded argument that proponents should use. The argument that it is completely harmless makes us look ignorant. This may not be what stoners want to hear but it's simply the facts. Please use your drug of choice responsibly.
     
  7. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    I never claimed it was harmless. Caffeine can be bad for you too. But neither one is something that IMO should be lumped into one big pile of "Drugs" As I said I understand the definition of the word. I however have issue with it's broad usage. The word carries with it a negative connotation that I don't think MJ deserves. Ganja is sacred and should of course be respected and treated as something sacred should be. Not to be abused and mistreated. I agree that Mj proponents that claim it is 100% harmless are not helping our cause. But any rational person I have talked to would agree with me that MJ and Coacaine for example don't belong in the same classification.
     
  8. hydromorphone

    hydromorphone Excommunicated

    Ras my comment wasn't directed at you in particular. It was just something I wanted to get out there. I completely agree that marijuana should be reclassified. Actually I'm in favor of all drugs being legalized for a multitude of grounded reasons. One of the biggest being taking away money and power from cartels and gangs. On the Mr. Sheen subject I feel any American adult should be able to do whatever they want as long as they are not physically or financially hurting someone else.
     
  9. rasganjah

    rasganjah True Ganjaman

    Right on man. I agree with you for the most part. I realize my morals are my morals.
     
  10. ShadowWarrior

    ShadowWarrior In The Spirit Realm

    That depends. Marijuana is not physically addictive as cocaine is, but marijuana DOES contain mind/mood-altering substances and tetrahydracannabinol(poor spelling) IS a narcotic substance.


    People have OD'd and died from cocaine use, but not from marijuana, so in THAT light, no they don't belong in the same category, but unfortunately they CAN be categorized alike, and they CAN be categorized differently.


    Cocaine was once used as a medication, then it was decided to be more bad for you than good, but before that happened, it was considered a miracle drug.


    Are cocaine and marijuana in the same class of drugs? No. Why?


    Because cocaine is processed to be the drug it is, marijuana is not, it is simply dried and smoked... unless ya wanna get anal retentive and consider the breakdown of the THC for absorption into the bloodstream a "process".. but seriously, they're not in the same CLASS.


    As far as narcotics go, however, they CAN be categorized together as "party drugs", mood enhancers and so forth, but considering the effects that each have on the human body and mind, they are mostly different except that they make you feel good and that's too vague to really lump them together.


    So... I'm freaking exhausted and uh, sorry for rambling. But Ras, I agree, they're not the same, and not really even similar, either.
     
  11. hydromorphone

    hydromorphone Excommunicated

    Shadow the definition of narcotics is a drug derived from the opium poppy. The Feds use the term narcotic to further their own ambitions (rhetoric). Also marijuana is not physically addictive. It is psychologically addictive though.
     
  12. blackprince11

    blackprince11 Prince of the Hindu Kush

    ??????????


    I really don't get it with all the Charlie Sheen hoopla all of a sudden. He's a doper. Is that a fucking suprise all of a sudden? Charlie Sheen is known to say some REAL shit if you catch him off guard sometimes. I don't think that's a new behavior for this guy either. I mean really what did he do? He pissed off his producers by talking about them and the network that his show is on pulled it for the rest of the season. I heard some clips but I haven't heard the entire interview or interviews that are supposed to be getting all this attention so I'm confused as to what the big fucking deal is. Can anyone post a link for me or something that explains all this attention?


    And just in case you're wondering about the contradiction between me being a relatively young man AND someone that uses the word "hoopla" in public then don't, because I haven't figured it out yet either damn'it!:passsit: :flyy: :flyy: :passsit:
     
  13. gizmo_barks

    gizmo_barks Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    I really can't talk, I'm an OZZY fan.:not-worthy:


    BUT...


    He's a little out there for what most people call normal at the moment. He has the money to destroy himself, and I'm sure most people are worried about him. I am. He's warmed too many hearts to be hated.


    Peace


    G_B
     
  14. ScottyG420

    ScottyG420 Marijuana Handler

    Charlie was officially fired today from 2.5 men. FIRED!
     
  15. gizmo_barks

    gizmo_barks Harvested Fat Sticky Bud

    LOL I guess they didn't like him much.:admin:


    :roffl: :roffl: :roffl:


    peace


    G_B
     
  16. big t double

    big t double i finally changed this

    bingo...:thumbs-up: too bad ol chucks bein thrown under the bus by his own kind...seems like thats the way it goes in hollywierd...i personally always liked the dude...made some alright flicks...major league anyone???
     
  17. Dixie Hicky

    Dixie Hicky Excommunicated

    I agree--he'll be back on coke or crack soon. But I think there's more going on with him. I think besides the drug issue, the guy's got some genuine mental illness stuff. He has that "god-like" thing manic folks are famous for--The belief he's totally on top of his Game ande and tuned in to some Greater Truth....


    You know, it's possible he has been self-medicating with alcohol to bring him down from the manic highs and coke to bring him UP from the depressions for years. It could be that this temporary "sobreity" has simply allowed his underlying mental illness to show.


    He's lost his job, is about to lose his kids, it's unlikely anybody else will hire him while he's acting niuts....yet he still claims he's "Winning". That's....mania.


    It will be interesting to see what the inevitable crash will bring. I expect he's gonna be real embarrassed.


    I feel kinda bad for the poor bastard. All the money in the world cant make him not nuts.


    Dix
     
  18. EvilSkuzzi

    EvilSkuzzi Sweet Guy

    Massive cock binges will make you go nuts. (lol is that slander? :rofl: )


    *Massive coke binges will make you go nuts.


    I always prefer my nutters to be rich though. The poor ones are just drains on society.
     
  19. ScottyG420

    ScottyG420 Marijuana Handler

    The guy is quoted on the Dan Patrick show stating that "...laying off the crack is usually good advice....unless you're able to manage it socially, Dan."
     
  20. MrAstro

    MrAstro R.I.P

    The guy's in 'the throws of addiction'; I doubt he'd seem remotely the same, if he ever sees sobriety.


    Temp sobriey? No. Listen (and worse, watch) to his interviews lately. He's wired. Anyone who can't see it is mental.
     

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